X-Men '97: The Animated Series (Disney+)

[master of read]

i wonder why they giving charles so much grief over this? and mags as well. charles wanted to believe that magnus could change and give scott and jean (or maddie in this case) time to live their lives away from being x-men. and it looked like mags was gonna change. then geonosha happened. you don't go through that shit and expect to be alright. same with rogue. she saw a bunch of people just get murdered, including the love of her life. you don't just get over that. for me, i just found it.......odd that they would just blame chuck for what mags did and blame mags for reacting as he did. its bastion and the sentinels' fault for things going tits up.

but that's just a small nitpick in a overall fantastic ep of a fantastic series.

[Nate Grey]

i wonder why they giving charles so much grief over this? and mags as well. charles wanted to believe that magnus could change and give scott and jean (or maddie in this case) time to live their lives away from being x-men. and it looked like mags was gonna change. then geonosha happened. you don't go through that shit and expect to be alright. same with rogue. she saw a bunch of people just get murdered, including the love of her life. you don't just get over that. for me, i just found it.......odd that they would just blame chuck for what mags did and blame mags for reacting as he did. its bastion and the sentinels' fault for things going tits up.

but that's just a small nitpick in a overall fantastic ep of a fantastic series.

Oh I agree, they're being unfair to both and acting like the context for both's actions don't count as mitigating circumstances. But I just chalk it up to can't have to many greys too long in shows like this, back to black and white.

[j9ac9k]

i wonder why they giving charles so much grief over this? and mags as well. charles wanted to believe that magnus could change and give scott and jean (or maddie in this case) time to live their lives away from being x-men. and it looked like mags was gonna change....

I liked the conversation, but it's one that Charles should've had with Scott while drawing up his will. Even if Scott disagreed, he wouldn't have been blind-sided by the decision. How did Charles expect Scott would just walk away after leaving the X-Men to their greatest enemy? It's also a bit presumptuous to make that decision for Scott and Jean - it's not exactly treating them like adults. (in a funny way it just reminds me of all those "my adult child is still living at home" stories where the parent goes to extremes to get their adult child to leave the house)

[master of read]

I liked the conversation, but it's one that Charles should've had with Scott while drawing up his will. Even if Scott disagreed, he wouldn't have been blind-sided by the decision. How did Charles expect Scott would just walk away after leaving the X-Men to their greatest enemy? It's also a bit presumptuous to make that decision for Scott and Jean - it's not exactly treating them like adults. (in a funny way it just reminds me of all those "my adult child is still living at home" stories where the parent goes to extremes to get their adult child to leave the house)

to be fair, by the time the OG show had ended, mags was less of a enemy and more of a ally than anything: he saved charles multiple times during the savage land arc, helped saved the world from the phalanx invasion, resolved the original asteroid M mess when one of his own men betrayed and seemingly killed him, stop poccy lips from erasing the universe, and you know, saved charles' life after he was nearly killed. so while i agree that him blindsiding the team with the will was a bit shortsighted, leaving the school to mags was a good choice, given how he had changed since his introduction.

[j9ac9k]

to be fair, by the time the OG show had ended, mags was less of a enemy and more of a ally than anything: he saved charles multiple times during the savage land arc, helped saved the world from the phalanx invasion, resolved the original asteroid M mess when one of his own men betrayed and seemingly killed him, stop poccy lips from erasing the universe, and you know, saved charles' life after he was nearly killed. so while i agree that him blindsiding the team with the will was a bit shortsighted, leaving the school to mags was a good choice, given how he had changed since his introduction.

Ah, okay. I didn't watch the last series so his decision does make more sense on that level.