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    Default J.M. DeMatteis returns for SPIDER-MAN: SHADOW OF THE GREEN GOBLIN

    It looks like we are going back to the early years of Spider-Man for this one in order to unearth the mystery of The Proto-Goblin!

    https://www.marvel.com/articles/comi...nkId=254825027

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    I always forget there was a proto-Goblin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I always forget there was a proto-Goblin.
    same here
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    Not a fan of proto-goblins, but it's JMD on Spidey so the money is already spent. Lol.
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    Between Gregor's vow of revenge and now the Proto-Goblin, it seems editorial is fond of pitching Mackie's loose ends to DeMatteis.

    But, despite my absolute fondness for the guy's talent, have to say that premise-wise this is definitely the one that sparks the least interest out of the throwback minis he's handled so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamnotJudasTraveller View Post
    Between Gregor's vow of revenge and now the Proto-Goblin, it seems editorial is fond of pitching Mackie's loose ends to DeMatteis.

    But, despite my absolute fondness for the guy's talent, have to say that premise-wise this is definitely the one that sparks the least interest out of the throwback minis he's handled so far.
    Yeah. It’s funny, each subsequent mini ranks lower on my level of interest. I was super pumped for the Ben Reilly mini, kinda interested in the Lost Hunt mini, but this one… he’s really going back to an obscure issue from a forgotten month-long event of minus 1 issues? I wasn’t even sure it was still canon. And this was like the weakest issue out of the Spidey books that month (my favorite was probably the Dezago/Wieringo Sensational issue with Pete and Uncle Ben fighting off old Marvel monsters).

    I’ll still pick it up because it’s JMD… but honestly, I wish he was doing another Ben Reilly mini.

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    "We take an equally-deep dive into the dysfunctional dynamic of the Osborn family, seeing how that generational pain sowed the earliest seeds of Norman’s Green Goblin identity and left its traumatic imprint on Harry," he added. "If you think you know everything there is to know about Peter and the Osborns, think again!"
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    I like this pitch - it's not really a JMD greatest hits story (I enjoyed Lost Hunt and BR, but both were playing off of big parts of JMD's various runs), it's in an era we haven't been focused on recently, and it's going to focus on a character w/o much in the way of continuity, so anything can happen. I wouldn't be shocked if JMD seeds a few plot ideas for future minis - he could do Goblin-adjacent stories in so many eras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoHustler View Post
    Yeah. It’s funny, each subsequent mini ranks lower on my level of interest. I was super pumped for the Ben Reilly mini, kinda interested in the Lost Hunt mini, but this one… he’s really going back to an obscure issue from a forgotten month-long event of minus 1 issues? I wasn’t even sure it was still canon. And this was like the weakest issue out of the Spidey books that month (my favorite was probably the Dezago/Wieringo Sensational issue with Pete and Uncle Ben fighting off old Marvel monsters).

    I’ll still pick it up because it’s JMD… but honestly, I wish he was doing another Ben Reilly mini.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustLuke View Post
    You and me both, man...
    Thirded . . . I'd especially love to see a follow-up to Spider-Man: Redemption with Ben and Kaine (and Janine/Elizabeth, of course).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoHustler View Post
    Yeah. It’s funny, each subsequent mini ranks lower on my level of interest. I was super pumped for the Ben Reilly mini, kinda interested in the Lost Hunt mini, but this one… he’s really going back to an obscure issue from a forgotten month-long event of minus 1 issues? I wasn’t even sure it was still canon. And this was like the weakest issue out of the Spidey books that month (my favorite was probably the Dezago/Wieringo Sensational issue with Pete and Uncle Ben fighting off old Marvel monsters).

    I’ll still pick it up because it’s JMD… but honestly, I wish he was doing another Ben Reilly mini.
    I'm interested in Dematteis writing the teenage Spider-Man early in his career when he hadn't figured out how to be a hero yet because I don't recall him ever writing that version of Spider-Man before. I always find the Lee/Ditko era Peter interesting because of how unpredictable and jerk-ish could be, despite his obviously heroic traits emerging. He was an interesting, volatile character filled with inner conflict and contradictions. When I went through those early stories recently, I found that such a believable approach to how a bullied, frustrated kid coping with a tragedy would behave, despite his noble intentions.

    Dematteis is a great Spidey writer obviously and he said writing that rookie Peter that hasn't figured things out yet appealed to him, so I'm really excited about that angle.

    Obviously, I would also love another Ben Reilly mini, but this might be more interesting than it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Refrax5 View Post
    I'm interested in Dematteis writing the teenage Spider-Man early in his career when he hadn't figured out how to be a hero yet because I don't recall him ever writing that version of Spider-Man before. I always find the Lee/Ditko era Peter interesting because of how unpredictable and jerk-ish could be, despite his obviously heroic traits emerging. He was an interesting, volatile character filled with inner conflict and contradictions. When I went through those early stories recently, I found that such a believable approach to how a bullied, frustrated kid coping with a tragedy would behave, despite his noble intentions.

    Dematteis is a great Spidey writer obviously and he said writing that rookie Peter that hasn't figured things out yet appealed to him, so I'm really excited about that angle.

    Obviously, I would also love another Ben Reilly mini, but this might be more interesting than it seems.
    I get you. I love JMD. He’s just about my favorite Spidey writer. But I’m not sure how his dark, introspective style will fit in with the classic Lee/Ditko issues. The only one who I thought was kind of successful at this was Kurt Busiek with his ‘Untold Tales’ series. He managed to modernize some aspects, like the dialogue, without making it seem jarringly updated or out-of-place when read in tandem with the Lee/Ditko originals. I’ll definitely pick up this mini and give it a shot. And you make some solid points about early Spidey being a jerk (which I attribute to Ditko’s influence… that was almost all gone when Romita took over).

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