Black Cat/Felicia Hardy Appreciation 2024

[TinkerSpider]

To me it just came off kind of generically cute "look how in love these two are even though we're only seeing their relationship now!" thing but maybe I'm growing too cynical.

I don't see it ending well by the end of this mini.

I actually agree. I should have used /s at the end of my last post.

There's no set up. And there's no reason for us to care about Amelia. In fact, considering she's terrorizing innocent citizens by blackmailing them into thefts and attempted murder, she's pretty unlikeable at the moment. And Felicia going along with her (until the next twist) because "our love is worth the pain" doesn't say good things about Fel.

But we'll see. I also think this mini is getting memory holed even before it finishes, so it's probably not going to matter in the long run anyway.

[Darthfury78]

Jed Mackay did a pretty decent job with Moon Knight and Tigra but that actually happened before.

Luke Cage and Jessica Jones?

Would certainly love to see Tigra in the pages of Spider-Man.

[Daibhidh]

[QUOTE=Majesty;6802174]

And you can use these things are more than tropes for drama or contrived reasons to break characters up. MARVEL in this case, with this character however does not, unless you're one particular person.

You are talking about a run in which Peter broke up with the one particular person for contrived reasons.

The current writers and editorial don't have a bias against Peter having a relationship with everyone except MJ. They have a bias against Peter having a relationship with everyone including MJ. They're just hampered by the fact that MJ and Peter were in fact married for twenty years and they don't have the courage of their convictions to retcon it beyond turning the marriage into cohabiting.

But you're right that Felicia is being put in a holding pattern that she's not allowed to escape from. Jed Mackay had her escaping in his solo series, but Wells - probably at the behest of editorial - yanked on the leash. Felicia's being used as a nothing more than a way to keep Peter and Mary Jane apart. Because Peter and Mary Jane weren't allowed to stay where they were at the end of Spencer's run.

Yes, but it wasn't portrayed that Felicia was 'disappointed" that it was Peter Parker. It was portrayed that his identity was no longer 'secret' and she just wanted the affair with 'Spider-Man' in their superhero/anti-hero personas. Which was a direct contradiction of her character up to that point. That was my main point. If Felicia says "Finally." and kisses him. Then she gets to a territory they didn't want her to occupy, so they wrote her out of character in order to make that happen. Then retconned it later. And then later acted like they never retconned it.

I've just looked at the panels sequence of that issue online, and Felicia is absolutely eager to see who Spider-man is and where he lives, until she finds out that Peter lives in a cheap apartment. She is disappointed. Her whole dialogue is that she's disappointed. "How can a hero like you live here?"

[Tuck]

Yeah, Felicia works great as a part of Peter's story. An ex that maintains a friendship. Marvel can always do more stuff like the Symbiote stories they've done recently if they want to revisit Peter and Felicia in a romantic relationship.

Felicia was in an interesting place - fertile ground worth exploring - at the end of Back in Black . . . and Marvel went and regressed the character. In some ways, Felicia got the worst of OMD.

[Huntsman Spider]

Yeah, Felicia works great as a part of Peter's story. An ex that maintains a friendship. Marvel can always do more stuff like the Symbiote stories they've done recently if they want to revisit Peter and Felicia in a romantic relationship.

Felicia was in an interesting place - fertile ground worth exploring - at the end of Back in Black . . . and Marvel went and regressed the character. In some ways, Felicia got the worst of OMD.

Indeed, she did. I did love where Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa was bringing her at the end of the Civil War tie-in stories from Sensational Spider-Man, with her talking down Rhino from his latest rampage by remarking that neither of them had to be what other people expected them to be or saw them as, that they could grow beyond those narrow expectations. It was a beautiful issue, and then, yes, OMD/BND ruined it.

[juan678]

new Frank Cho today

[Huntsman Spider]

new Frank Cho today

Ha, good one.

[JustLuke]

Yeah, Felicia works great as a part of Peter's story. An ex that maintains a friendship. Marvel can always do more stuff like the Symbiote stories they've done recently if they want to revisit Peter and Felicia in a romantic relationship.

Felicia was in an interesting place - fertile ground worth exploring - at the end of Back in Black . . . and Marvel went and regressed the character. In some ways, Felicia got the worst of OMD.

Preach. Especially in regards to the last bit

[Darthfury78]

Yeah, Felicia works great as a part of Peter's story. An ex that maintains a friendship. Marvel can always do more stuff like the Symbiote stories they've done recently if they want to revisit Peter and Felicia in a romantic relationship.

Felicia was in an interesting place - fertile ground worth exploring - at the end of Back in Black . . . and Marvel went and regressed the character. In some ways, Felicia got the worst of OMD.

Felicia could work great as a part of Daredevil's story. Not to mention Spider-Woman and Gambit's solo series as well. I really feel that that Felicia(like Silver Sable) needs to be further explored in other titles not connected to Spider-Man, like Hawkeye's solo series. I still want to see Tigra in the pages of Spider-Man as his ally in a reoccurring guest spot. Greer needs to be in Spider-Man's world, as well as The Morlocks, who would provide a homebase for Curt Conner's The Lizard and family...

[Agent Z]

Looks like Caped Crusader's version of Catwoman will have a bit in common with Felicia. Ironic.

[Majesty]

Looks like Caped Crusader's version of Catwoman will have a bit in common with Felicia. Ironic.

As if Felicia being called Catwoman before hasn't already been a running gag :3

new Frank Cho today

As a Switch... I'm taking Gwen claiming to being the mistress of Edging a whole different way lol

[Huntsman Spider]

Looks like Caped Crusader's version of Catwoman will have a bit in common with Felicia. Ironic.

Sounds like Felicia from the 90s animated series, yeah.

[LoganAlpha30X33]

I always viewed Felicia as being more noble than Selina...

[Frontier]

Sounds like Felicia from the 90s animated series, yeah.

Yeah, even though she also wasn't much of a thief past her debut episode and socialite Felicia was more of a thing in the 90's show than the comics.

[Agent Z]

As if Felicia being called Catwoman before hasn't already been a running gag :3

Yeah, but now the original is copying the inspiration.

Sounds like Felicia from the 90s animated series, yeah.

Though it seems what happened to Selina here is what Felicia's mother was afraid would happen to her family if her father being a thief was revealed to the public.