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    Ugh. I'm afraid of what will happen with Rogue when she finds out Magneto is alive. If there's a split in the team, some with Magneto, others with Xavier, I'm afraid she'll side with Mags. I live in fear that Remy's death will be the excuse they need to go back to Rogneto (but I am currently reading AOA on the Unlimited App because, clearly, I hate myself, and want to fuel my anxieties). Maybe not, but I'm dreading it. I still can't believe we had more Rogneto than Romy in this series when XTAS made Romy fans out of so many viewers (myself included).

    I'm more or less convinced Gambit will come back as Deathbit. Besides all of the allusions to death associated with him and some other hints that we've already discussed, it would give the writers a lot of melodrama to work with. Remember, DeMayo said that Gambit dying, thinking that Rogue chose Mags, is important. What better way to torture a grieving/guilt-ridden character than to have her dead boyfriend revived and unload his emotional baggage on her? Also: where Cable goes, doesn't Apocalypse soon follow?
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    Gambit. Rogue. Repeat.

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    the unic thing with keeping up my hope the return of Gambit with the time travel in this season is a scene with the nightcrawler and Gambit fighting with the Soldiers of the OTZ we happen in the preview of episode 5.
    Deatbit can be happen, but I think it's not happen this season, except, if is apparecen in the start of episode 9(now, I can't believe this).

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    Glad I'm not the only one for whom the charm of '97 is starting to wear thin. I'm really starting to not enjoy this. I'm just bitter. It freaking sucks that we're likely getting nothing positive in terms of Gambit returning any time soon or in any way that would be actually be satisfying to us as fans.

    I'm beyond annoyed that Beau kept insisting Magneto was dead when clearly he is alive and well and we all damn well knew it.

    I'm tired of them dangling Romy like a treat they have no intention of actually delivering, instead shoving our noses in Rogneto and then killing off one of the two characters I'm actually here for and now dangling his death like yet another carrot.

    Feeling very used.

    Also beyond annoyed they think they can just replace Gambit with Kurt.

    Yes all the Kurt and Rogue scenes are great. But I'm not going to show up week after week for Kurt.
    Last edited by AppleJ; 05-01-2024 at 02:57 PM.

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    I get frustration.
    I liked new episode. It was fine.


    I still think that this season is the best non-comic X stuff for me and better than movies or 92.
    Not all character are balanced but I never excepted it to be, really. I had very low expactations before show started and ep5 was better than I could hope for. No other episode was even close and Gambit stole the show even with not so much screen time.


    I will judge show after ep 10 because I still think that more character arcs will resolve and Gambit will return this season.


    So if he really returns and in some cool way it will show one more time how good the show is.
    That even we believed that he won't return.
    Or he won't return and we will BURN IT
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    That old X-Men 97 promo poster shows exactly who are main characters for the show so that is why my expactation always were low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nox Noctes View Post
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    Ugh. I'm afraid of what will happen with Rogue when she finds out Magneto is alive. If there's a split in the team, some with Magneto, others with Xavier, I'm afraid she'll side with Mags. I live in fear that Remy's death will be the excuse they need to go back to Rogneto (but I am currently reading AOA on the Unlimited App because, clearly, I hate myself, and want to fuel my anxieties). Maybe not, but I'm dreading it. I still can't believe we had more Rogneto than Romy in this series when XTAS made Romy fans out of so many viewers (myself included).

    I'm more or less convinced Gambit will come back as Deathbit. Besides all of the allusions to death associated with him and some other hints that we've already discussed, it would give the writers a lot of melodrama to work with. Remember, DeMayo said that Gambit dying, thinking that Rogue chose Mags, is important. What better way to torture a grieving/guilt-ridden character than to have her dead boyfriend revived and unload his emotional baggage on her? Also: where Cable goes, doesn't Apocalypse soon follow?
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    I think even if Rogue sides with Magneto, the second Mags rips out Wolverine’s skeleton will be the moment she changes her mind. She spoke of his rage before, of not wanting part of it. How enraged is Magneto now?
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    I still look forward to this show. It’s great television, even if my favorite is gone. Admittedly I didn’t enjoy this episode as much, until the dance of the nine swords scene. I just don’t find Cable and the Summers drama compelling, more like the show saying: look - look how COOL they are! Look at this fast car! Vroom vroom boom boom! Isn’t it cool? Isn’t Cyclops the COOLEST!?

    It’s giving “try-hard.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Purplevit View Post
    That old X-Men 97 promo poster shows exactly who are main characters for the show so that is why my expactation always were low.
    Beau always said that Cyclops and Storm were going to be the main two characters of Season 1. I'm expecting a focus on different characters in Season 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitecrown View Post
    Beau always said that Cyclops and Storm were going to be the main two characters of Season 1. I'm expecting a focus on different characters in Season 2.
    Well, then he clearly lied, the main character of season 1 is Magneto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoPony View Post
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    I think even if Rogue sides with Magneto, the second Mags rips out Wolverine’s skeleton will be the moment she changes her mind. She spoke of his rage before, of not wanting part of it. How enraged is Magneto now?
    end of spoilers

    I still look forward to this show. It’s great television, even if my favorite is gone. Admittedly I didn’t enjoy this episode as much, until the dance of the nine swords scene. I just don’t find Cable and the Summers drama compelling, more like the show saying: look - look how COOL they are! Look at this fast car! Vroom vroom boom boom! Isn’t it cool? Isn’t Cyclops the COOLEST!?

    It’s giving “try-hard.”

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    Oh good point re: Wolverine getting his skeleton ripped out...if it happens, of course. This show isn't pulling any punches, so that is a distinct possibility.
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    Scott's relationship dramas? Kind of interesting. Summers family with a never-ending ever-changing number of "children"? Not interesting to me. At. All. Never was. Never will be. Don't care. I hope season 2 moves on from this.

    I also don't care about the Jubes/Roberto/his family storyline. I understand why it's there, but not interested in the least.
    Gambit. Rogue. Repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nox Noctes View Post
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    Oh good point re: Wolverine getting his skeleton ripped out...if it happens, of course. This show isn't pulling any punches, so that is a distinct possibility.
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    Scott's relationship dramas? Kind of interesting. Summers family with a never-ending ever-changing number of "children"? Not interesting to me. At. All. Never was. Never will be. Don't care. I hope season 2 moves on from this.

    I also don't care about the Jubes/Roberto/his family storyline. I understand why it's there, but not interested in the least.
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    I have similar feelings about Jubilee/Beto/his family. It's so heavy-handed. Whenever they're on screen, I brace for yet another unsubtle lecture, like I'm Deathbird in that classroom. I get they are important issues and I normally appreciate the mutant metaphor, but this is less the mutant metaphor and more the mutant sledgehammer. It's not giving the characters and their relationship any room to breathe, because they are just symbols of bigger issues.

    I do want to be clear. I am not complaining about the X-Men being woke. I am very in favor of woke. I am only complaining about execution.
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    For once there's no reason for me to add spoiler tags. Loved the scene with Kurt and Logan, but overall, this is the first ep that left me unemotional in any way, and I suppose it'll remain that way until Remy returns.

    I watched the recommended episodes but all it did was remind me of how much of a lie Rogue's "never me" line was and honestly that conversation and all the bullshit we've had to endure this season as Gambit/Romy fans.
    “Sometimes I feel like you’re the only one who gets me, 1400-pound block of cheese.”—Gareth Reynolds

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    Hey y'all, just a quick note that we are on the last week of preorders for the Rogue & Gambit fanzine!

    https://homeharborfanzine.bigcartel.com/

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    Definitely can promise no unexpected deaths if you need something to cheer you up. We should ship in early June.

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    This episode was kind of boring with Rogue in a coma. I feel like I'm watching the Magneto and Cyclops show. No matter how hard they try to make Scott cool, I just find him completely uninteresting. And I still can't get over Magneto starting a romantic relationship with a teenager he was mentoring. Given how much the writers seem to love him, I don't think they understand how creepy that out of nowhere Rogneto relationship was. The one thing I did enjoy was the bond between Rogue and Kurt. They haven't been this close since Evolution. Maybe even then. And then maybe Wolverine coming to defend her too. The series seems to have forgotten they were friends. And it can't seem to handle showing more than two or three relationships at once. Logan's mostly been dividing his time between Morph, pining over Jean, and complaining about Scott. They haven't even dealt much with his relationship with Jubilee. Overall, I hope the character focus will shift next season. I still think we'll get Gambit back in the last episode or two somehow. After all, they cut down most of the Goblin Queen drama to one episode. Remy's return will probably be quick too so they can move on to bigger storylines next year.
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    There are tiers within the show when there shouldn’t be. Scott and Jean with Logan mixed up is the first one. Jean referring to Storm as her sister. In a vacuum these things are not bad. It’s when they are given priority and others are either being cut off or not prioritized at all. We all want Storm to return because it seems that Scott and Jean have no real connection to either Rogue or Remy. We want her to return so someone might actually care openly. We have Kurt but he is an outsider and his whole plot is caring. You can’t dump that on one character. This team feels so dysfunctional, they are 12 people on that promo poster but they only socialize in small clicks. Roberto talks to Jubilee. Rogue with Magneto, Remy and Kurt. Logan with Scott, Morph and Jean. And so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJ View Post
    Glad I'm not the only one for whom the charm of '97 is starting to wear thin. I'm really starting to not enjoy this. I'm just bitter. It freaking sucks that we're likely getting nothing positive in terms of Gambit returning any time soon or in any way that would be actually be satisfying to us as fans.

    I'm beyond annoyed that Beau kept insisting Magneto was dead when clearly he is alive and well and we all damn well knew it.

    I'm tired of them dangling Romy like a treat they have no intention of actually delivering, instead shoving our noses in Rogneto and then killing off one of the two characters I'm actually here for and now dangling his death like yet another carrot.

    Feeling very used.

    Also beyond annoyed they think they can just replace Gambit with Kurt.

    Yes all the Kurt and Rogue scenes are great. But I'm not going to show up week after week for Kurt.
    I doubt Nightcrawler is taking Gambits place. Or that's how the writers feel. And I doubt even less that Gambit is going to stay dead.
    Last edited by From The Shadows; 05-02-2024 at 02:50 AM.

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