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    So......

    That's it?

    Delroy is evil?

    Man, I was really hoping for a swerve.

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    The pacing and suspense is better than last issue (and preview) so I am hoping for a good conclusion.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lame Ugly Looking Joke View Post
    So......

    That's it?

    Delroy is evil?
    If the writer was going to make being a double agent a big twist he is really selling it at least.

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    I mean, the reveal that Delroy isn't actively working undercover with T'Challa or the other Avengers doesn't mean that he couldn't have accepted the position in Orchis fully intending to just sabotage them from within on his own. It still fits with his gripes with the Avengers and complaints about not being taken seriously that while wanting to do something to combat Orchis or help mutants he figured he was better off on his own because nobody else sees him as a viable or useful ally.

    And it is worth pointing out that MODOK directly calls him out for the volume of Sentinels that are being destroyed in the attack on the Impossible City, when we've seen elsewhere how powerful/dangerous even one of them can be elsewhere. Could definitely be spun as Delroy's doing this to try and thin Orchis' Sentinel forces as much as possible and has some failsafe in mind to make sure they don't actually manage to destroy the Impossible City in the process.

    I honestly don't have a strong leaning towards or against the idea that MacKay is making Delroy a legit bad guy here or a traitor to Orchis, but I still think it would pretty easy for him to write either direction at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbysWorld View Post
    I mean, the reveal that Delroy isn't actively working undercover with T'Challa or the other Avengers doesn't mean that he couldn't have accepted the position in Orchis fully intending to just sabotage them from within on his own. It still fits with his gripes with the Avengers and complaints about not being taken seriously that while wanting to do something to combat Orchis or help mutants he figured he was better off on his own because nobody else sees him as a viable or useful ally.

    And it is worth pointing out that MODOK directly calls him out for the volume of Sentinels that are being destroyed in the attack on the Impossible City, when we've seen elsewhere how powerful/dangerous even one of them can be elsewhere. Could definitely be spun as Delroy's doing this to try and thin Orchis' Sentinel forces as much as possible and has some failsafe in mind to make sure they don't actually manage to destroy the Impossible City in the process.

    I honestly don't have a strong leaning towards or against the idea that MacKay is making Delroy a legit bad guy here or a traitor to Orchis, but I still think it would pretty easy for him to write either direction at this point.
    Makes sense when you put it like that. Taking down Orchis from within on his own because he wants to prove a point to his doubters in the Avengers . . . it's just the right mix of nobler with more self-serving motivations to make him a real wildcard if that is the case.
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    I'm not ruling anything out until I get to the final page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    Makes sense when you put it like that. Taking down Orchis from within on his own because he wants to prove a point to his doubters in the Avengers . . . it's just the right mix of nobler with more self-serving motivations to make him a real wildcard if that is the case.
    Indeed it does make sense and now that I think about it I'd actually like this better than him being an official double agent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lame Ugly Looking Joke View Post
    So......

    That's it?

    Delroy is evil?

    Man, I was really hoping for a swerve.
    I'd wait until the last page.

    If nothing else, this is the end of the Orchis plotline. I don't see much benefit in making him a villain this late in the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    I'd wait until the last page.

    If nothing else, this is the end of the Orchis plotline. I don't see much benefit in making him a villain this late in the game
    Especially since with Orchis going down along with Krakoa at the end of this, I'd think (or hope) Marvel would know somewhat better than to have any of its hero characters tainted by association with an organization that exists solely for the annihilation of mutantkind, if they wanted to keep them viable for future use.
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    I think Duggan going so heavy on the buzzwords has definitely skewed things. There are villains who kill indiscriminately and would kill cities, countries, planets or galaxies worth of people. I don't know how teaming up with a group who is more picky is going to tarnish their reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cranger View Post
    I think Duggan going so heavy on the buzzwords has definitely skewed things. There are villains who kill indiscriminately and would kill cities, countries, planets or galaxies worth of people. I don't know how teaming up with a group who is more picky is going to tarnish their reputation.
    I think the pickiness is the problem. It's one thing if a bad guy wants to kill absolutely everyone in existence or everyone in immediate killing range of them, which is horrible in and of itself, though you can say such a villain is just utterly, insanely, wantonly murderous. Targeting that murderous intent at specific groupings of people out of prejudice toward those groupings isn't exactly something that can be easily justified or rationalized, if it can be at all, especially in light of the unfortunate history of genocide in real life.
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