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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Hickman had different plans for the Krakoa era, but Marvel wanted to slow down because other writers enjoyed the new status quo.

    https://ew.com/books/inferno-jonatha...0pop%20culture.

    From the explanation I recall, he figured he was paid too much to write stories that just spun the wheels.
    Not having a firm vision always leads to a story thatÂ’s the worst for it. I could never invest money in so many dangling books meant to wrap up that series. Sales over story stresses the readers, even when things seem successful. Ex multiple books by multiple authors to conclude a story

    ASMÂ’s issue is a lack of character focus. I have no idea what the stakes are for Spider-Man personally. Aunt May isnÂ’t in the book, Norman is dealing with things on his own, MJ doesnÂ’t seem to be a core component, black cat was back to being a core character than not, whatÂ’s the deal with Randy, no bugle cast, no Jonah, now Peter has another new possible girlfriend. Spider-Man needs personal stakes to matter and the concepts and ideas for this run seem to be bigger than the characters which leads to a horrible foundation.

    DidnÂ’t even mention that Kafka/betty/ben/Janice/Ned/Kingsley as being thrown in the mix. Is queen goblin without NormanÂ’s sins mean Kafka is just a standard bad guy with no nuance? So many ideas thrown in the mix and so little character work.

    This reminds me of the MCU. MCU was great because we cared for the characters over time, now all the characters seem to just be boiled down to their powers, settings, and looks and no one caresÂ… Spider-Man and guardians being the exception because they have character arcs and personal stakes.

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    The book needs a fresh start with a new writer, and a less controversial or at least more normal status quo. Kick out all the drama and tell some nice stories. Come up with a vision or hook that fans can believe and support.

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    How does the title regain its mojo?

    1) Toy box mentality banished to the woods and burned with fire. Characters are not toys. They are characters. The idea that a character can be put back in a box with its packaging intact is antithetical to the concept of storytelling.

    2) Stories coming from a place of character first, plot second. Plot driven writing needs to take a seat waaaaaaaaaay in the back.

    3) Stories driven by “but/therefore” instead of “and then.”

    And that’s it. The mojo would be mostly back just with these three steps, IMO.
    “I always figured if I were a superhero, there’s no way on God's earth that I'm gonna pal around with some teenager."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinkerSpider View Post
    How does the title regain its mojo?

    1) Toy box mentality banished to the woods and burned with fire. Characters are not toys. They are characters. The idea that a character can be put back in a box with its packaging intact is antithetical to the concept of storytelling.

    2) Stories coming from a place of character first, plot second. Plot driven writing needs to take a seat waaaaaaaaaay in the back.

    3) Stories driven by “but/therefore” instead of “and then.”

    And that’s it. The mojo would be mostly back just with these three steps, IMO.
    100%.

    I can only speak for myself, obviously, but I've found that I can enjoy movies/shows/literature even if the plot is not the best as long as the character work is strong, because as long as they are, it's still fun to follow them through until a better plot comes along. I can never enjoy a story with illogical characters because there's nothing to latch onto. It just gets frustrating.

    I hope the next writer starts with a kind if "bible" of back issues for themselves to remember who these characters are and who they aren't.
    Spider-Man works in mysterious ways, Shelly. And wherever he is, he loves you.

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