View Poll Results: Which MU villain team should the X-Teams face this new era?

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  • Wrecking Crew (Wrecker, Bulldozer I, Bulldozer II, Piledriver and Thunderball)

    0 0%
  • Black Order (Black Dwarf, Corvus Glaive, Ebony Maw, Proxima Midnight, Supergiant and Black Swan)

    5 11.63%
  • Zodiac (updated versions of Taurus, Aquarius, Aries, Cancer, Gemini and others)

    3 6.98%
  • Squadron Sinister (Doctor Spectrum, Hyperion, Nighthawk, Power Princess and Whizzer)

    10 23.26%
  • U-Foes (Ironclad, Vapor, Vector and X-Ray)

    2 4.65%
  • Serpent Society/ Squad (Black Mamba, Cobra, Puff Adder, Asp, Rattler and more)

    5 11.63%
  • Hencemen (Eel, Plantman, Porcupine, Scarecrow and Unicorn)

    0 0%
  • Masters of Evil I (Baron Zemo, Atlas, Radioactive Man, Moonstone, Songbird, MACH-IV and Fixer)

    1 2.33%
  • Masters of Evil II (Absorbing Man, Tiger Shark, Blackout, Mister Hyde, Titania and Whirlwind)

    1 2.33%
  • Ani-Men (Dragonfly, Komodo, Gort, Cat-Man, Frog-Man, Rabbit woman, Bird-Man)

    0 0%
  • Sinister Six (Electro, Kravel, Doc Ock, Sandman, Vulture and Rhino)

    0 0%
  • Ten Rings (Razor Fist, Death-Dealer, Midnight Fire, Mandarin, added with extra females)

    2 4.65%
  • Hydra (Baron Helmut Zemo, Arnim Zola, Viper, Red Skull, Silvermane)

    7 16.28%
  • Femizones (Superia, Quicksand, White-out, Gypsy Moth, Moonstone, Pink Pearl and more)

    3 6.98%
  • Other: .......

    4 9.30%
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    Quote Originally Posted by norj View Post
    Ex-S.H.I.E.L.D agents would view any nation run by the likes of Exodus, Mystique, Apocalypse, Shaw and Mr. Sinister as a threat to global peace and stability and with their parent organization disbanded see Orchis as the best means of countering that threat. They would probably push for the removal of the QC and replacing it with someone friendly to humans. The Hydra guys just want a excuse to hurt people and the A.I.M probably ran calculations that show Orchis is humanity's best chance of survival.
    Fair enough. It would be a case of "the enemy of my enemy" rather than those ex-S.H.I.E.L.D. guys being seriously anti-mutant.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChronoRogue View Post
    Squadron Sinister / Squadron Supreme would be great villains.

    They're basically the evil Avengers, not sure why any government officials haven't sicked them on the X-Men before; it makes perfect sense to.

    Happened, in a way, during the Heroes Reborn timeline that was altered by Mephisto's machinations to replace the Avengers with the Squadron Supreme of America as the premier heroes of the Marvel Universe, and there, the Squadron was unleashed against mutants.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master of Sound View Post
    I thought Marvel was heading for an IA versus humans crossover with all what happened with Orchis.

    And Ultron would be a great ally for Nimrod and Karima.
    I thought Dan Slott was setting that up somewhat with his Iron Man run dealing with the subplot of a Robot Revolution sparked by sapient machines getting fed up with --- in their minds, at least --- being abused and exploited by organic lifeforms. Considering that was somewhat the motivation of the AIs that turned out to be the real movers behind Orchis . . .
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    With careful planning Baron Zemo was able to absolutely wreck the Avengers. I'd love to see him orchestrate a carefully planned attack on the X-Men. (He should probably have more heavy hitters than the T-bolts though. Maybe add the Enchantress, Absorbing Man and the Wrecking Crew.)

    I also would like to see a Nimrod/Ultron alliance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegeta View Post
    With careful planning Baron Zemo was able to absolutely wreck the Avengers. I'd love to see him orchestrate a carefully planned attack on the X-Men. (He should probably have more heavy hitters than the T-bolts though. Maybe add the Enchantress, Absorbing Man and the Wrecking Crew.)
    Zemo's a pretty clever guy, and he'd have to actually want something out of this, like access to Krakoan or Shiar tech. I think he'd be far more likely to engineer a fight between the Avengers and X-Men, so that the X-Men would be unwilling soldiers (or distractions) to mask his own objective (and, end up adding yet another group of heroes to his sizable enemies list!). Engineering a conflict between the humans and mutants of some made-up country like Sokovia, so that the Avengers are drawn in to protect the civilian populace from 'mutant terrorists' and the X-folk are drawn in on the other side to protect the innocent mutants from 'hate and persecution', while in both cases, the 'mutant terrorism' *and* the most egregious acts of anti-mutant prejudice, have been triggered and amplified in the media by Zemo and his agents directly, could be one way to keep them both off the board and allow him to run his true game without their interference. (But his true objective would have to directly involve mutant resources in some way, or else he'd have no justification to involve a potential *new* group of enemies! Perhaps seizing control by using a machine that doesn't just block telepathy but redirects the psionic energy and allows the wearer of the McGuffin to use the telepathy of those attacking him to control others? The hot second that Xavier or Emma or Jean attempts to mind-blast him, he locks on to their frequency and their power now works for him! He's already done some similar mind control shenanigans with the Overlord and Purple Man, so it wouldn't be out of his wheelhouse to attempt to usurp mutant telepathy similarly, perhaps hijacking some lesser telepaths like Third Eye as 'appetizers' to prepare for taking on the big gun X-telepaths...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutekh View Post
    Zemo's a pretty clever guy, and he'd have to actually want something out of this, like access to Krakoan or Shiar tech. I think he'd be far more likely to engineer a fight between the Avengers and X-Men, so that the X-Men would be unwilling soldiers (or distractions) to mask his own objective (and, end up adding yet another group of heroes to his sizable enemies list!). Engineering a conflict between the humans and mutants of some made-up country like Sokovia, so that the Avengers are drawn in to protect the civilian populace from 'mutant terrorists' and the X-folk are drawn in on the other side to protect the innocent mutants from 'hate and persecution', while in both cases, the 'mutant terrorism' *and* the most egregious acts of anti-mutant prejudice, have been triggered and amplified in the media by Zemo and his agents directly, could be one way to keep them both off the board and allow him to run his true game without their interference. (But his true objective would have to directly involve mutant resources in some way, or else he'd have no justification to involve a potential *new* group of enemies! Perhaps seizing control by using a machine that doesn't just block telepathy but redirects the psionic energy and allows the wearer of the McGuffin to use the telepathy of those attacking him to control others? The hot second that Xavier or Emma or Jean attempts to mind-blast him, he locks on to their frequency and their power now works for him! He's already done some similar mind control shenanigans with the Overlord and Purple Man, so it wouldn't be out of his wheelhouse to attempt to usurp mutant telepathy similarly, perhaps hijacking some lesser telepaths like Third Eye as 'appetizers' to prepare for taking on the big gun X-telepaths...)
    Engineering conflict by amplifying if not flat-out deliberately inciting the worst elements on both sides? Could be an apt commentary on bad actors in real life doing exactly that to further inflame existing tensions between various groups and causes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    Engineering conflict by amplifying if not flat-out deliberately inciting the worst elements on both sides? Could be an apt commentary on bad actors in real life doing exactly that to further inflame existing tensions between various groups and causes.
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    It was snarkily said in the GURPS rules that the 'etiquette' skill had the counter-intuitive role of being used also to provoke a rival so subtly as to cause them to violently overreact in a situation where doing so could get them killed, while creating the illusion that you are blameless and 'the victim' of the person you provoked. (Provoking them in such a way as to cause them to draw steel on you in the presence of a superior, causing *them* to be punished for aggressive behavior, for example.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutekh View Post
    Art imitates life.

    It was snarkily said in the GURPS rules that the 'etiquette' skill had the counter-intuitive role of being used also to provoke a rival so subtly as to cause them to violently overreact in a situation where doing so could get them killed, while creating the illusion that you are blameless and 'the victim' of the person you provoked. (Provoking them in such a way as to cause them to draw steel on you in the presence of a superior, causing *them* to be punished for aggressive behavior, for example.)
    I mean... I've seen people do that IRL. Goading others into losing their cool.

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    Korvac - he tries to highjack the powers of a reality warpers inorder to bring about his idea of universal Utopia.
    Hydra - the X-Men learn about their baby stealing program. (In Spider-woman it's been revealed that Hydra adducts super-powered children, brainwashs them and erase all trace of their existence from the world. Naturally mutant kids would be a prime target for this program.
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