All purpose news and politics thread part VII: News & Politics Total Landscaping

[kidfresh512]

Maybe Melania is trying to keep her son from becoming the same kind of transactional love based, treason complicit, drug addled sock puppets that her step children have become …?

100% this. Melania shows up for her sparing commitments to keep the bank accounts open. And she already saw how it was about to be open season on Barron once he steps foot into the political sphere completely. All gloves would be off if he jumped into politics.

All she needs is to have him on the next set of indictments involved in daddies bs.

[Mister Mets]

So…lemme get this straight, Republicans…

Registering man-made, unnecessary weapons of mass destruction - as firearms should absolutely be classified, after all the carnage and death they’ve been proven to deal out - to keep track of the provenance of guns used in mass shootings (and prevent violent offenders from getting their hands on, you know…weapons of mass destruction?) is forbidden by the Constitution, because according to you, ‘owning guns’ is a ‘god-given, natural right’ that cannot be made even SLIGHTLY inconvenient for gun fetishists, right? I mean, that’s what you shout at grieving parents and surviving children when they ask why we can’t do anything about mass shootings, anyway. The Constitution clearly says, according to you guys, that there can be nothing that gets in the way of a gun fetishist and his urge to get his sweaty hands on his precious masturbatory aid, I mean murder tool, I mean ‘self defense tool’...

But registering uteruses? Keeping a database of ‘uterus owners’ in order to track who’s fertile and who’s pregnant, so you can punish women who aren’t using their fertility the way you wish, or who simply suddenly aren’t pregnant anymore? Preventing people from having any say in their own natural, ‘god-given’ reproductive rights? That’s patriotic freedom to you…?

Man, f*** every single GOPer, Trumpian or not. The GOP has nothing to offer anyone with a conscience.

If it’s not racism, it’s misogyny.
If it’s not misogyny, it’s homophobia.
If it’s not homophobia, it’s science denial.
If it’s not science denial, it’s voter suppression.
If it’s not voter suppression, it’s religious dogma being forced on the public.
If it’s not religious dogma being forced on the public, it’s lies and theft and cheating to stay in power.
If it’s not lies and theft and cheating to stay in power, it’s indoctrinating children to hate.
If it’s not indoctrinating children to hate, it’s robbing the retirement plans of seniors and stripping funding from schools.
If it’s not robbing the retirement plans of seniors and stripping funding from schools, it’s removing regulations that prevent corporations from polluting us into extinction.
If it’s not removing regulations from corporations to prevent them from polluting us into extinction, it’s defending literal Nazi chants and symbols.

And if none of those work to give it the power it craves, it always has it’s ace in the hole: mass murder of undesirables by indoctrinated ‘lone wolves’ they can plausibly deny (until it comes out that they had every book written by Fox News personalities and visited neo-Nazi forums and had an incel manifesto quoting the Bible, and…)

How anyone can support them with a straight face and a clear conscience is beyond me.

I think you misread the article.

100% this. Melania shows up for her sparing commitments to keep the bank accounts open. And she already saw how it was about to be open season on Barron once he steps foot into the political sphere completely. All gloves would be off if he jumped into politics.

It should be fine for an 18 year old to be a delegate for a parent running for political office, but it's probably the right call to keep him out of the political arena.

Literally just posted about one...

https://community.cbr.com/showthread...=1#post6812056

While it would be nice to see that particular Republican off of the board, it makes me sick to my stomach that Kennedy being in play might be what finally puts the stake into that particular vampire's heart.

Also, one of them winding up on the bench probably won't really change much about the way that their party hobbles regular folks being in a better position.

As for voting for a Republican?

I've already said that I never have, and can never see a scenario where I would.

In fairness, you didn't say what you thought about the article on whether RFK Jr getting on the ballot in Texas could hurt Ted Cruz.

I can infer that you would be happy if Ted Cruz loses, but you didn't say so explicitly. From your perspective that observation would be a little bit like someone noting that you mentioned heroin in an article, but never made it clear that you don't want to try it and are not recommending it for anyone else.

I was a bit wrong to say that you don't care about Republicans, but it seems that further information isn't going to change your mind. You already know that you're not going to support them.

If somebody thinks centrist Democrats are better than progressive Democrats you support, they could try to make that argument on policy. But they'd rather make it personal.

[hyped78]

"Donald Trump who had originally spearheaded efforts to ban TikTok during his time in the WH until changing his position recently after meeting with Billionaire investor and Club for Growth donor Jeff Yass, who has a stake in TikTok, now blames President Biden for signing the bipartisan bill into law:
“Crooked Joe Biden is responsible for banning TikTok.”"

https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/...99049698214277

Beware - the video is extreme cringe!

[aja_christopher]

If somebody thinks centrist Democrats are better than progressive Democrats you support, they could try to make that argument on policy.

Many of the links provided directly addressed centrist and progressive Democratic policy — it was likewise noted that the voters have already made it clear which they support in elections.



The only person avoiding discussing actual policy is you because you know you can't defend the sexist, racist, homophobic policies of the party that you support.

They seem to want you to talk about Republicans, and it seems to me you don't care about Republicans.

"They" can speak for themselves Mets -- a simple question was asked regarding healthcare and (as usual) 30 didn't answer because he likewise knows he can't defend his arguments objectively.

One would ask you to at least be consistent with your claims regarding "non-loaded" questions but at this point such hypocrisy is not only normal but expected.

[hyped78]

“Just Stop Oil protesters in their 80s target Magna Carta
The women used a hammer and chisel to try to break the glass case protecting the historic charter, which was the first document to put into writing the principle that the King and his government were not above the law.”

https://news.sky.com/story/just-stop...carta-13132732

They’re old enough to know better

[Tami]

I think you misread the article.

Posing this, a website like that might require users to sign in, as in you need to create a username and password. Even if it didn't, you do understand what Cookies are, right? Anyone who uses that database can be tracked via cookies like breadcrumbs in a forest. Unless there is wording in the bill that strictly prohibits the use of cookies or other forms of tracking, the government can create a database of website users and from that identify women who are pregnant.

Dad learns of daughter’s pregnancy through Target - Feb 16, 2012

How much data have some companies collected about its customers? Enough to make a dad learn of his high school daughter’s pregnancy not from her but from an ad mailed to her from Target.

Forbes reported on a marketing project Target undertook to identify expecting mothers earlier than their competitors.

Andrew Pole, a Target statistician, told the story of a man who went to a store outside Minneapolis and demanded to see a manager. The man was irate that the store mailed his daughter coupons for baby clothes and cribs.

The man angrily asked if the store was trying to encourage her to get pregnant. But, unbeknownst to him, his daughter actually was pregnant and expecting. After getting the details from his daughter, he told the manager he owed them an apology.

This was 12 years ago, the technology has improved and Government can do it just as good as if not better than a company can.

[hyped78]

Even if it didn't, you do understand what Cookies are, right? Anyone who uses that database can be tracked via cookies like breadcrumbs in a forest. Unless there is wording in the bill that strictly prohibits the use of cookies or other forms of tracking, the government can create a database of website users and from that identify women

Cookies, another example where the US is behind Europe, in this case on data privacy

[The Cool Thatguy]

How do you prove that, are there studies (not partisan leaning news articles) to that effect?

We elected Trump (not me personally, but still).

'Nuff said.

[zinderel]

Posing this, a website like that might require users to sign in, as in you need to create a username and password. Even if it didn't, you do understand what Cookies are, right? Anyone who uses that database can be tracked via cookies like breadcrumbs in a forest. Unless there is wording in the bill that strictly prohibits the use of cookies or other forms of tracking, the government can create a database of website users and from that identify women who are pregnant.

Dad learns of daughter’s pregnancy through Target - Feb 16, 2012



This was 12 years ago, the technology has improved and Government can do it just as good as if not better than a company can.

Couple that reality with the reality that the GOP has proven time and again that they DO NOT CARE about the health and welfare of pregnant women, OR the children that those women give birth to. They have proven time and again that they ONLY care about using pregnant women as the worlds laziest rallying cry, and they only care about CONTROLLING pregnant women (and having a renewable pool of desperate, abandoned, undereducated labor who are willing to work for cheap and not dream of anything better…).

The very real probability is that that this seemingly ‘harmless’ thing - being promoted by Senator Serena Joy Britt (R), of Gilead, a TRUSTED and respectable politician who isn’t at all compromised by her extremist religious beliefs or anything - will actually be used to harm the people it purports to protect and support (like most GOP initiatives end up doing). This will come about either deliberately (because of the fundamentalists infesting the party who can’t help themselves when it comes to how loudly they crow when they get to oppress the people they think their god hates and get away with it), or accidentally (because of the GOP leadership and base, who have proven themselves pretty much incompetent at everything). The GOP can’t seem to do ANYTHING except promoting domestic terrorism through fearmongering and lying, and making themselves richer through fraud, bribery, and outright theft.

Oh, and they’re also really good, as a matter of religious dogma (for which any criticism is an attack on their religious liberty, or whatever), at pretending to be holy while actually being as awful as humanly possible to those most in need of compassion.

There is not one doubt in my mind that this database will be used to harm people if the GOP get the power they crave to make Project 2025 take off, that that is this database’s INTENT, and that the narrative that it’s to ‘help mothers’ and ‘be a resource’ are a smokescreen coming from a party that has proven itself untrustworthy on women’s issues. Or ANY issue, really.

The fact that the document/roadmap for Project 2025 and it’s twisted, mainstream-to-the-party scheme exists at all tells me that nothing the GOP offers comes without a price, and nothing they have to offer is worth the price they expect the rest of us (but not themselves) to pay.

[Tendrin]

Wait, is someone defending a 'registry for pregnant people' thing? Weird. That seems like the kind of thing that one would argue about being a probable slippery slope if they cared about being intellectually consistent.

[zinderel]

Wait, is someone defending a 'registry for pregnant people' thing? Weird. That seems like the kind of thing that one would argue about being a probable slippery slope if they cared about being intellectually consistent.

I mean, three guesses, and the first two don’t count…

It’s perfectly consistent with a history of downplaying any and everything the GOP does to harm minorities and women, though, so…

[Dalak]

Tiffany, for the most part, managed to distance herself from the insanity that is her father. Maybe Barron will try to do the same.

I hope so, for his sake.

I think that will be the easier part if the bill passes. They'll just force doctors to register patients without asking for their consent.

Yeah, that seems easier to mandate. That or insurance companies.

I wonder if the back of their minds makes them do this in case Hell doesn't actually exist so they have to punish everyone NOW.

Well that doesn't get into how un-Christian it is to actually punish people unless you have God's prior written consent, but I think it has something to do with the sadism one indulges in when one goes all-in on hating one or more groups of people so much that they have to do at least something to make their lives worse.

Posing this, a website like that might require users to sign in, as in you need to create a username and password. Even if it didn't, you do understand what Cookies are, right? Anyone who uses that database can be tracked via cookies like breadcrumbs in a forest. Unless there is wording in the bill that strictly prohibits the use of cookies or other forms of tracking, the government can create a database of website users and from that identify women who are pregnant.

Dad learns of daughter’s pregnancy through Target - Feb 16, 2012

This was 12 years ago, the technology has improved and Government can do it just as good as if not better than a company can.

Couple that reality with the reality that the GOP has proven time and again that they DO NOT CARE about the health and welfare of pregnant women, OR the children that those women give birth to. They have proven time and again that they ONLY care about using pregnant women as the worlds laziest rallying cry, and they only care about CONTROLLING pregnant women (and having a renewable pool of desperate, abandoned, undereducated labor who are willing to work for cheap and not dream of anything better…).

The very real probability is that that this seemingly ‘harmless’ thing - being promoted by Senator Serena Joy Britt (R), of Gilead, a TRUSTED and respectable politician who isn’t at all compromised by her extremist religious beliefs or anything - will actually be used to harm the people it purports to protect and support (like most GOP initiatives end up doing). This will come about either deliberately (because of the fundamentalists infesting the party who can’t help themselves when it comes to how loudly they crow when they get to oppress the people they think their god hates and get away with it), or accidentally (because of the GOP leadership and base, who have proven themselves pretty much incompetent at everything). The GOP can’t seem to do ANYTHING except promoting domestic terrorism through fearmongering and lying, and making themselves richer through fraud, bribery, and outright theft.

Oh, and they’re also really good, as a matter of religious dogma (for which any criticism is an attack on their religious liberty, or whatever), at pretending to be holy while actually being as awful as humanly possible to those most in need of compassion.

There is not one doubt in my mind that this database will be used to harm people if the GOP get the power they crave to make Project 2025 take off, that that is this database’s INTWNT, and that the narrative that it’s to ‘help mothers’ and ‘be a resource’ are a smokescreen coming from a party that has proven itself untrustworthy on women’s issues. Or ANY issue, really.

The fact that the document/roadmap for Project 2025 and it’s twisted, mainstream-to-the-party scheme exists at all tells me that nothing the GOP offers comes without a price, and nothing they have to offer is worth the price they expect the rest of us (but not themselves) to pay.

It really is obvious to anyone who says they worry about government overreach, abuse of vaguely worded acts, and/or sloppy, biased misinformation.

Wait, is someone defending a 'registry for pregnant people' thing? Weird. That seems like the kind of thing that one would argue about being a probable slippery slope if they cared about being intellectually consistent.

[Zelena]

The climate change increases the effects of natural climatic variations. After all, climate probably played a role in Mayan civilisation collapse.

Nowadays we cover a larger part of the surface of the Earth so more prone to be victim of natural catastrophies. Hard to say if we are more or less resilient than past civilisations.

One thing is sure: climate change is here to stay and we don’t know how far it will go…

This is a subject that requires swift attention and serious consideration instead of politicization and misinformation.

Sounds like the epitaph of humanity, dear Dalak… Even here it’s barely a subject…

[zinderel]

Sounds like the epitaph of humanity, dear Dalak… Even here it’s barely a subject…

I think climate change doesn’t get much talk because people either don’t take it seriously, or have given up on trying to get anyone to take it seriously (whether out of frustration or nihilism or both). I mean, we’ve been talking about this subject for literal decades, now, but that’s all we really do: Talk about it.

We don’t actually DO anything, except maybe pay plenary indulgences - sorry, ‘carbon offsets’ - that let us be as wasteful as ever, but feel better about ourselves. I guess that sort of counts? But we haven’t really taken any substantive action. Because one political party keeps getting in the way of ANY action on the matter, because ‘God will take care of it’, or because ‘it might negatively impact corporate profits’…I mean ‘the economy’.

When WW2 hit, our auto factories converted to making airplanes and tanks in a matter of weeks. Now, we give them YEARS to clean up emissions or switch away from fossil fuels, and they still can barely be bothered. Why change their waste management and emissions policies when they can just buy enough politicians to make sure those regulations go away before they have to lose out on buying a fifth house, or an invite to the Hunger Games (sorry, the Met Gala), or a solid gold elephant foot umbrella stand, or a golf course or three, or a federal judge?

Clearly, adapting our consumption to limit our impact on the environment is too inconvenient for rich people’s profit margins.

[CaptainEurope]

He hardly looked like Val Kilmer in Felon in the first place.

That was the joke. I bet he will turn to dust when the prison won't allow him to wear two layers of Salvation Army shirts.