Doctor Who IV - Everything Whovian - Would you like a jelly baby?

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

I loved the Devil's chord. The RTD2 era is on fire.

https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/the...m_content=news

Morbius enters the Time War in "the War Doctor Rises: Morbius the Mighty".

https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/riv...g-s-last-words

New details on "the diary of river song: Last Words".

Both boxsets release August 2024.

[ChrisIII]

So if Susan is the big bad/one who waits as some have speculated, I sort of have a bit of a fan theory on how that could have happened.

While the Doctor usually regenerates alone or near companions or friends and therefore this ability is not known to the world at large, we know that earlier the Timeless Child and later, Jack Harkness (In Miracle Day) were treated as test subjects/tortured because of their regenerative abilities.

Also at some points in the show, the Doctor's regenerative powers or other aspects of his time lord biology were sought by less sympathetic parties. The Dastari/Androgum/Sontaran alliance in Two Doctors (although this was the part of the brain that had symbiosis with the TARDIS), the mutant aliens in Mawdryn Undead, Davros and the Daleks in Magician's Apprentice/Witches's familiar etc.


What if, at some point, the Carole Ann Ford incarnation of Susan passed on and regenerated, but the humans around her (probably not David who might have passed on by then)-perhaps terrified by aliens in part due to the Dalek invasion-saw this and experimented on her next form (also perhaps while it hadn't adjusted or wasn't near any TARDIS, or other calming environment such as rest to help stabilize it) perhaps driving her mad and feeling abandonment from the Doctor. Maybe she eventually finds some TARDIS or other time travel tech and becomes this "One who waits" entity, following the Doctor.

Also Carole Ann Ford is still around, was seen at the premiere so she can still play Susan post Five Doctors but pre-regeneration.

[ChrisIII]

Episode 3-

Now that's a bit more like it.....

also a few surprises pretty much right away.

Also the trailer shot from before the specials finally shows up.


Next episode is the one with the TARDIS on a cliff side and the Doctor missing, seems kind of a "Spooky" episode involving a rural Welsh village, a mysterious woman (The Susan Twist character? Mrs. Flood? The Woman who left Ruby? All three?) etc.

[ChrisIII]

Interesting catch on Reedit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/c...sounds_eerily/

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Boom was amazing.

[marshal88]

moppet losing his touch , no companion death ?

[ChrisIII]

Not really his call this time. His RTD-era scripts did tend to separate the Doctor and companion more frequently (Rose was with Jack for a good part of EC, GITF had him seperated from Rose and Mickey for a while, Blink both characters weren't really in it, and the Library one had Donna 'saved' into the kind of virtual dimension).

[ChrisIII]

So with Varada as Mundy, wonder if this is similar to the case of Nicholas Cortney, Ian Marter, Karen Gillian and Freema where they just kind of liked the actor and recast them in a companion role, or something with deeper meaning like Clara/Oswin (Although we already have something similar going on with whoever Susan Twist is playing).

[Jokerz79]

I've been busy so no time to watch Who, but I plan to catch soon. I did watch Boom because I'm a Moffat fan and damn that was a good episode. Also, Since I saw Giggle, the Church on Ruby Road, and now Boom I can say Ncuti Gatwa is a fantastic Doctor.

[marshal88]

Not really his call this time. His RTD-era scripts did tend to separate the Doctor and companion more frequently (Rose was with Jack for a good part of EC, GITF had him seperated from Rose and Mickey for a while, Blink both characters weren't really in it, and the Library one had Donna 'saved' into the kind of virtual dimension).

imagine if moffat was the showrunner, his trope of killing the doctor's companion and then giving them a frivolous 'happy' ending would have been perfect for this episode , have ruby killed and vaporised and then have her returned as a hologram at the end that will live till the end of time would be such a trademark of moffat. As toymaker would say 'IT'S ALL RIGHT , THEN !'.

[ChrisIII]

With all the focus on Susan Twist, seems everybody's forgotten about the other mysterious woman, Mrs. Flood.

Maybe that's kind of intentional on RTD's part, drawing attention away to Susan Twist's characters only for her to maybe be a red herring for the Flood twist?

[ChrisIII]

Iplayer ratings are in. They're a bit low, even compared to Jodie's era. (The 2023 specials I think were around 7 million-ish).

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi...ed-newsupdate/

Granted, worrying about the ratings is kind of a Doctor Who tradition since the mid 80s. Also I don't think the Disney+ numbers are in.

Think the main problem was starting with Space Babies, perhaps.

[ChrisIII]

Moffat on the Timeless Child retcon:


https://www.cinemablend.com/intervie...s-child-reveal



It's interesting that he basically suggests that the Time of the Doctor regeneration renewal was smoke and mirrors; that the Doctor could've or would've regenerated regardless of the energy sent from Gallifrey. Him not regenerating was just psychological perhaps, and we know under certain circumstances the Doctor can delay regeneration, although it's not really healthy to do so. Also having a freshly regenerated but unstable 12th Doctor might've not helped Trenzalore that much....(Just like Eleventh popping up in Stolen Earth might not have helped deal with the Daleks-although the Doctor has been known to weather crisises after freshly regenerated, it's usually because he eventually regains his marbles....)

Kind of fits with him suggesting that the "Night of the Doctor" potion was just lemonade with dry ice for the effect, and that his transformation into the War Doctor was just psychological.

Lore-wise kind of makes sense that Rassilon was immortal and had "perpetual regeneration" in THE FIVE DOCTORS-perhaps he was one of the earliest people gifted by Tectuen but didn't get the regeneration limit (also presumably Tectuen themselves and Omega?) with the ring just being a prop or just activating the statue curse.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v...ign=BFPDWWAR10

A new era of 8th Doctor's Time War stories has been announced. Its a mouthful- "Doctor Who: Time war Uncharted: volume 1 Reflections".

[Kirby101]

I detest The Timeless Child story line.