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[QUOTE=JKtheMac;4524694]You have to sympathise with the retailers here. If any of them ordered high for Age of X-Man they would probably still have them.
To order appropriately for the eventual demand they would have had to gamble on Hickman hitting high numbers for a number of books before seeing the content. We haven’t seen this much interest in any X-Men books for a very long time.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I'm not blaming them. The last three times the X-books relaunched, they flopped and Hickman's Avengers never really was a sales blockbuster.
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After the flop of Age of X-man and disassembled, I don't blame retailers. Both relaunches took advantage of them to make money of terrible books.
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Yeah, Age of X-man and Disassembled look even worse in hindsight due to the fact that made retailers wary of betting on Marvel. Really should just have continued the line for six months.
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[QUOTE=Omega Alpha;4524732]Yeah, Age of X-man and Disassembled look even worse in hindsight due to the fact that made retailers wary of betting on Marvel. Really should just have continued the line for six months.[/QUOTE]
They weren't betting on X-men since the end of Bendis run
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I have a pull list and still missed House of X #2 when it came out. My theory is that my store sold it to someone else since I didn't pick it up right away. Today I finally got it and I got POX #3 but my comic store had a sign saying that there was a shortage for POX 3. I know at one time my comic store had trouble selling X-Men books, and one of the workers tried to talk my brother out of buying X-Men and Marvel books (but we had a feeling he was a comicsgater and had a grudge). It is nice seeing House of X and Powers of X do well but yeah stores aren't ordering what they should I guess out of fear they won't sell? I'm not 100% on the process. I know at times Marvel was sending more than what was ordered and there were always a lot of Marvel and X-Men books on the shelves in many stores I visited (and though anecdotal a lot of folks on twitter have historically described similar experiences).
I know at my store I don't think there was much interest for Age of X-man.
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I think the problem was adding the "Age of ...." title, the first thing some people thought it was that it was a copy of age of apocalypse which it was not.
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Also, not that it really means much, but on Comixology pull list, HOX/POX is the most "added" comic since it started coming out. Has even beat Batman each week by a margin. For the last few relaunches, XMEN hasn't even come close to those Batman numbers now its whooping them. If this momentum can be kept once HOX/POX ends, the XMEN truly have returned.
But yeah, we can't blame anyone for under-ordering, the AofX numbers more than prove that.
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4524704]If they ordered high on Age of X-man they are really bad on reatail[/QUOTE]
The point is, with weekly releases, they have to guess. They don’t have the luxury of reading an issue before they go big on #3. Age of X-Man was actually OK it just wasn’t the type of story that could be a big seller, but how would the retailer know? The marketing hype is always identical. ‘This is important’ says Marvel, over and over. ‘You need to make sure you order this’. It becomes noise.
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[QUOTE=RamaBird;4524939]Also, not that it really means much, but on Comixology pull list, HOX/POX is the most "added" comic since it started coming out. Has even beat Batman each week by a margin. For the last few relaunches, XMEN hasn't even come close to those Batman numbers now its whooping them. If this momentum can be kept once HOX/POX ends, the XMEN truly have returned.
But yeah, we can't blame anyone for under-ordering, the AofX numbers more than prove that.[/QUOTE]
I hope a whole arc centered around the Summers family doesn't kill the momentum too much.
I know those Yu covers made me way less excited than I was for the X-men ongoing. At least the other books seem solid.
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[QUOTE=Factor;4525412]I hope a whole arc centered around the Summers family doesn't kill the momentum too much.
I know those Yu covers made me way less excited than I was for the X-men ongoing. At least the other books seem solid.[/QUOTE]
Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean and Cable seem enough to hold a comic.
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[QUOTE=Factor;4525412]I hope a whole arc centered around the Summers family doesn't kill the momentum too much.
I know those Yu covers made me way less excited than I was for the X-men ongoing. At least the other books seem solid.[/QUOTE]
There isn't antipathy towards the Summers family among the general comic base.
Hickman's name being attached to it will make sure it is a hot seller. Especially if House of X ends with a satisfying conclusion. Let's not forget that one reason the X-books have lagged over the last few years is because they were lacking Cyclops, Wolverine, and Jean. Now that they are back, there will be some buzz seeing them all in action again as a unit.
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[QUOTE=Glio;4525420]Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean and Cable seem enough to hold a comic.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. The first 3 especially are 3 of the most popular characters in the franchise and its been 15 years since we've had a story with them together
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Hmm, aren't Rogue and Storm more popular than Jean? She was gone 15 years.
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[QUOTE=Jesse-James;4525584]Hmm, aren't Rogue and Storm more popular than Jean? She was gone 15 years.[/QUOTE]
3 of the most. I didnt say these were THE 3 most. And Jean is VERY popular despite being gone for so long. Her popularity didnt wane. In fact it grew in that time, especially with the teen coming to present day and introducing her to a set of new fans. Marvel never really let the character go and her presence was felt. They kept her alive in a way that they dont do for many characters who are forgotten in death
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[QUOTE=Maestroneto;4524714]Oh, I'm not blaming them. The last three times the X-books relaunched, they flopped and Hickman's Avengers never really was a sales blockbuster.[/QUOTE]
I don't know i would have thought they would have taken into account Disney having the rights back. I am sure retailers have a little more inside info than us so they should have seen MArvel was pushing x-men like they haven't in over a decade. Just the names(money) attached to it says a lot. Just my opinion though.