Spider-verse 2 : What do you want to see in this BESIDES more Spideys?

Would like to see more of Miles relationship with his mother since the first one was focused on the father-son relationship. The mother becomes concerned about Miles' unexplained absences and HER interfering mother starts to intervene. The mother is almost killed like she was in ulti-verse...

There'll probably be more on The Miles/Gwen relationship and maybe other teen girls . Anya Cortez? Was the purple haired girl at Miles' old school a young Jessica Jones?

But definitely more spideys : 2099, 1967, India, beastial mutant spidey, Superior (good plot twist). Maybe a HUGE ending where all the spideys appear (Electric company, 1980 Japan, 1990's cartoon, etc etc)

Singing dancing broadway spidey vs Bollywood Indian spidey during end credits...

I think Liv Octopus should be the main villain of Spider-Verse 2. She got punk'd out in the entire tussle with the collider but maybe she slipped in the cracks. She was quite knowledgable about the interdimensional hijinks and so on.

I don't think ITSV had any weak links. Everyone liked all the characters and all the Spiders. That creates problems because producers of a sequel will insist on them retaining the cast of Spiders from this one. And that means less time and space for newer Spiders. Liv Octopus was a popular villain, as was Aaron Davis Prowler, but the latter died so it needs to be her. Liev Shreiber's Kingpin wasn't especially liked so no need to retain him.

I'd like for them to introduce Mayday by making her the daughter of Peter B. That after this adventure, Peter B. went back to his MJ, they sorted out and had a kid, and the sequel on account of dimensional portals opening tears in different times shows an older white-haired Peter with Mayday/Spider-Girl or Annie-May/Spiderling, a 10-15 or 16 year old girl. And Miles, now a little older, say 17-18, becomes a kind of elder brother figure to Mayday/Annie.

I think it should involve Miles telling his dad, mom, or both about his secret, since it would be good to see how they would deal with it, namely Jefferson, even if ITSV ends with him feeling better about Spider-Man, still has some juicy things to mine from that.

And if they want to borrow elements from Sitting In A Tree, making Jefferson Scorpion a villain in the movie would be cool, acting as another extension of Miles' familiar past, tripping Miles up, and works in the multiversial craziness.

Interaction with other Marvel Heroes. If that's possible that is.

[QUOTE=Minerboh;4220792]Interaction with other Marvel Heroes. If that's possible that is.[/QUOTE]

Probably not without a new deal between Marvel and Sony.

I'd say definitely give Rio a bit more focus this time around. Would also like to see more of Miles' classmates; Ganke (this time actually speaking), Judge, and Barbara.

Foremost more Rio, the first movie really focused on Jefferson's relationship with Miles so it would be nice to see Miles' relationship with his mom. I think that Miles having both his parents in his life is a big strength he has and it should be used. I'd also like The Bombshells to show up too, their unhealthy mother child relationship would juxtaposed nicely with Miles and Rio's relationship. It would be cool if the Spot was involved too, the main villain messing with his powers could be the source of the problem. Maybe with his powers boosted they go out of control and start pulling in dangerous things from throughout the multiverse into Miles' home dimension. And finally more Ganke, he didn't get to play his proper role in the first movie so I'd like to see what his role is in the next one.

I want Dan Slott's beard to come out of the screen, pick me up from my seat, and take me to a better world.

Morlun and the Inheritors. Spider-Island. Either or both, plus more interdimensional shenanigans.

Bring on a version of Black Cat please!

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I'd like for them to introduce Mayday by making her the daughter of Peter B. That after this adventure, Peter B. went back to his MJ, they sorted out and had a kid, and the sequel on account of dimensional portals opening tears in different times shows an older white-haired Peter with Mayday/Spider-Girl or Annie-May/Spiderling, a 10-15 or 16 year old girl. And Miles, now a little older, say 17-18, becomes a kind of elder brother figure to Mayday/Annie.[/QUOTE]

You beat me to it! I would love to see this!

[QUOTE=Snoop Dogg;4221055]I want Dan Slott's beard to come out of the screen, pick me up from my seat, and take me to a better world.[/QUOTE]

I'm just imagining something like the Fat Albert movie trailer where the girl jumps back as he's coming out of the TV and starts screaming.

More content of Miles' relationships with his mom and Ganke and at the end he tells his parents that he's Spider-Man which would lead to an interesting new family dynamic to be explored in the trilogy (because you know full well this masterpiece is going to be a trilogy. :cool:)

A solid B plot that just revolves around the characters of Spider-Noir and Spider-Ham. They were my favorite part of the film!

Bring in that creepy "Spiders-Man" character from the recent Spidergeddon book. An evil Spider-Man would be great (Or at [I]least[/I] give us "Spider-Carnage" like the 90's animated series did).

A version of Peter wearing the Symbiote costume. (In it's classic 80's design, not that "Raimi Spider-man 3" look) Pair him up with Felicia Hardy for bonus points!

Enforcers would be neat.

I imagine Miguel and Superior will be the two main on the cards.
Whether Superior will be the villain I’m not sure.

[QUOTE=Scott Taylor;4221088]Morlun and the Inheritors. Spider-Island. Either or both, plus more interdimensional shenanigans.[/QUOTE]

The idea of an interdimensional spider-hunt would work pretty well for a sequel.

All I want is Spider-Man 2099

Spider Slayers.

Didn't they already say what the 2nd movie will be about?

You've got to have Peter again. Superior Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2099. Superior Spider-Man may be the villain for it. That could be Morlun, just lose the Inheritors. Morlun works better on his own.

[QUOTE=UltimateTy;4223634]Didn't they already say what the 2nd movie will be about?[/QUOTE]

Yep, the second movie is going to focus on the romantic relationship between Miles and Gwen, which I personally can't wait. Funny enough it will be the first movie on screen cartoon relationship between a Black Male and White Female.

So I'm presuming with that being the focus, I'm presuming an influx of spiders will be limited.

My guess is going to be that Spider Gwen gets a device from Spider 2099 that can allow people to stay in each other's dimension. So my guess is going to be that the main three would be 2099, Miles, and Gwen, with the focus being in Gwen's universes over Miles.

So while I would like to see Rio's relationship further developed, I'm not certain how much time can be dedicated to that if they spend most of the time in Gwen's universe.

No script has actually been written, or greenlit, and everything is still in pre-production stage.

So far, we've heard ideas. And it's no guarantee you'll have the same team, since Bob Persichetti, co-director of the movie has signed on for Puss in Boots 2.

There are talks of spinoffs as well.

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Singing dancing broadway spidey vs Bollywood Indian spidey during end credits...[/QUOTE]


That would be brilliant.....I would pay to see that alone.

I want to see them do Spider-Clones, with a version of Jessica Drew that's based on her Ultimate universe version (i.e. female clone of Peter) showing up. Other than that, I really want to see Mayday show up.

They've already confirmed that while Lord & Miller will still be producing and be heavily involved creatively, the directors and writers will be different, with Joaquin Dos Santos (of Avatar, Korra, Justice League Unlimited, and Voltron fame) and David Callaham (Expendables, Wonder Woman 84, & Shang-Chi) taking up the reigns.

And the only real plot detail is that it would be expanding on Miles and Gwen's relationship. Anything else goes. Considering the post-credits scene, I would be surprised if we don't have Spider-Man 2099 involved in some way.

JK Simmons returns as JJJ ("If it ain't broke...")

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On a personal level I'd like to see more of Miles' life as Spider-Man and Miles Morales on his own Earth, but I feel like that's going to get less emphasized versus his relationship with Gwen and Earth-65.

But I would be happy to be wrong.
[QUOTE=Revolutionary_Jack;4220569]I think Liv Octopus should be the main villain of Spider-Verse 2. She got punk'd out in the entire tussle with the collider but maybe she slipped in the cracks. She was quite knowledgable about the interdimensional hijinks and so on.[/QUOTE]
We never saw her get arrested (then again, we never saw Scorpion either) so I wouldn't be surprised if she comes back.
[QUOTE=vitaminbee;4221256]Bring on a version of Black Cat please![/QUOTE]
I think if we get Black Cat, it will probably be in the Spider-Women movie.
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And the only real plot detail is that it would be expanding on Miles and Gwen's relationship. Anything else goes. Considering the post-credits scene, I would be surprised if we don't have Spider-Man 2099 involved in some way.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't think they'd get Oscar Isaac for a popular AU Spidey and then waste him on a post-credit scene (especially one so goofy).
[QUOTE=AnthonyO'Brien;4224628]JK Simmons returns as JJJ ("If it ain't broke...")[/QUOTE]
I don't think Jameson really works with Miles (aside from the post-credit scene he's the only super-major Peter supporting character who had no role in the movie at all) but I guess you could fit him into Earth-65 depending on if Gwen is still controversial on her Earth (I can't recall if they hinted at that or not).

There isn't just one film that could satisfy everything... I want Spider-Verse to be the catalyst for a full-fledged "Animated SMCU." It seems like this is already in the works, so I'm pretty optimistic about the future of this series.

Here are some things I'd love to see...

—Miles Morales solo(ish). The big hurdle here is, what do you adapt? Beyond his origin and cross-over events, what Miles stories are out there that feel unique to him? But perhaps this is also a strength. The movie gave Miles characteristics that I'd like to see explored further... his artistic ambitions, for one thing. (I'd also like to see that make its way into the comics, because it's a cool character trait, and also, so he can make his own Spider Suit, and also, because the ITSV Miles suit is better).

I'd also like to see Miles telling his parents about being Spider-Man, and them coming to terms with that. His relationship to Jeff has potential (can we please retcon his name to being "Jeffrey" so it's not the f***ng president of the CSA??), but maybe it's most interesting when he's paired with Gwen, who also has a cop dad. So instead, maybe we see more of Miles with his mom -- explore more of his Hispanic heritage -- and get a better explanation for why he's "Morales" instead of "Davis" than what's supplied in the comics.

As a legacy hero, Miles could have a unique relationship with May Parker... I really liked that she gives him custom webshooters. Perhaps she becomes a closer ally in the movies?

ITSV was wise to cut out Ganke, but a sequel needs to incorporate him... obviously, differentiating him from MCU Ned will be key. They did a good job with his design in the movie, and the deleted scenes are funny, but I don't know off the top of my head how to make it clear that Ganke isn't a "rip-off" of Ned (smh!).

It could be interesting to see Miles as a proactive superhero... meaning, rather than reacting to the events set in motion by supervillains, perhaps Miles is actively pursuing cases that he sees the cops missing; or he's pursuing justice to criminals that the law can't touch. Maybe Miles is more of a detective than Peter?

—We know Spider-Women is already in the works, and we know it's Gwen, Silk, and Jessica Drew... I wonder if they will add in other characters? I'd like to see Spider-Ham again, since he's a presence in Gwen's comics, so it'd be cool to see how a "real" Ham could become one of Gwen's pals in the ITSVerse. One thing that frustrates me about the Spider-Gwen comics is... I want WAAAAAAY more of The Mary Janes band than is ever supplied. Perhaps... Gwen gets a separate spin-off series separate from Spider-Women??

—More of Peter B. Parker... I don't know that he necessarily [I]needs[/I] his own solo film (though, I do think this is the most refreshing version of Peter to ever be written anywhere -- even the comics have never touched a "past-his-prime Peter" without being absurdly overwrought or tragic), but I do want to see how his story continues. It'd be cool to see Peter B. as, like, a continuation of the JMS run that didn't have a OMD... he's a school teacher, he's married to MJ, etc.

I really love Peter B. him as a supporting/partner character, but at the same time, I do think Miles should have the space to grow without Peter... hmm, idk. Maybe there are solo(ish) films for Miles and Gwen, but then there's "team-up" movies where Peter B. is with an ensemble. In other words, Peter B. = MCU Tony Stark, and the main "Spider-Verse" films = MCU Avengers movies. The Miles & Gwen solo films are like the spin-offs, I suppose.

—Perhaps there's also Superior Spider-Man somehow? I think Otto + a mini army of Spider-Clones could be potentially cool... sort of like Spider-Geddon but with a bad Otto instead of vampires. The dynamic between Otto & Miles in the books seemed like fertile ground for a genuinely antagonistic relationship that could be expanded upon in a film that only loosely adapts the material.

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Okay, I think I figured out what I want. Here we go.

ASMCU (Animated Spider-Man Cinematic Universe)

[B][U]Phase One[/U][/B]

[B]Into The Spider Verse[/B] - [I]check![/I]

[B]Spider-Women[/B] - [I]upcoming[/I]

[B]Miles Morales: Spider-Man[/B] - [I]probably upcoming[/I]

[B][U]Phase Two[/U][/B]

[B]Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Geddon[/B] — Miles, Peter B, Gwen, Jessica Drew, Silk, Miguel O'Hara, Noir, Peni, Ham... versus Otto/Superior, and an army of Spider-Clones... then they all team up against Morlun/Vampires. This seems like an impossible amount of characters, but maybe it's structured like Endgame, and they're all in different little groupings — Miles/Peter B/Gwen/Ham .... J. Drew/Silk.... Miguel/Noir/Peni — that could work? Maybe? Hmm.

[B]Spider-Gwen[/B] — with cameos from the Spider-Women, and Miles as a supporting character/love interest (it's possible this is what they're already doing with Spider-Women but, in this imaginary world, the boys aren't in Spider-Women)

[B]Miles 2[/B] — Now our boy is in college, a bit more grown-up, and he's at his superhero peak. I think this would be the time to adapt part of Spider-Men II, where Miles is visited by the alternative versions of himself, where he followed in the footsteps of Uncle Aaron and became a villain. Miles vs Miles!


I also want a million dollars and a bed made of ice cream and a pony... spider-pony

I really want Kaine, Ben, and a version of ultimate Jessica Drew to be introduced. They could make a fantastic team.

Maybe Miles gets thrown in other universes rather than other universes coming to him? They’d probably be restricted to be the Sony owned universes like Raimi, Amazing (movie), and Spectacular (Animated) if it’s anything more than a cameo though due to rights and all that good stuff...

I wonder if we'll some variant of Venom. He was the only one of the Big Three Spider-Man villains that wasn't in the first movie.

After having watched the alternate universe cut of the film which featured Ganke's substantial role before being cut, I would very much like him to be a major character in the sequel. Obviously they're likely to go into a more alt-spidey heavy direction, but I'd like at least a portion of the film to have Miles be a solo hero with Ganke's help. Having watched the alternate cut I understand why his role was removed, but I think it's a relationship worth portraying.

[QUOTE=Frontier;4315771]I wonder if we'll some variant of Venom. He was the only one of the Big Three Spider-Man villains that wasn't in the first movie.[/QUOTE]

Maybe have him and every other symbiote, maybe led by Knull, battle the Web-Warriors.
Theres: Venom, Carnage, Toxin, Dreadface, Riot, Scream, Agony, Lasher, Phage, Mania, Scorn

All I really want is more spidey's though. Spider-Man 2099, and Symbiote Spider-Man to be specific.

An appearance by the "Amazing Friends" Iceman, Firestar and Ms. Lion (But probably unlikely due to the rights).

Black Cat would be great as well.

[QUOTE=Vegeta;4317072]An appearance by the "Amazing Friends" Iceman, Firestar and Ms. Lion (But probably unlikely due to the rights).

Black Cat would be great as well.[/QUOTE]
I thought there would be rights issues with Kingpin but they managed to use him in the first movie...I guess it's probably the kind of thing that needs to be negotiated. Like, it would be hard to do Gwen's story without her version of Matt Murdock.

I expect if we see Black Cat it'll probably be in the Spider-Women movie, if at all. Not sure if they'll go with the undercover crook Silk angle, but that was the only reason Black Cat showed up in the original event.