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[QUOTE=Daedra;5594243]See, nothing to worry there, Storms loves all kind of creatures equally and I see humans compared to insects all the time when I watch nat geo documentaries[/QUOTE]
Sure, she lovingly compares humans to insects… When I think about the sweet, compassionate girl Ororo Munro was… my point is that the Phoenix is not the only thing that can taint X-women…
End the X-men, Marvel… they are unrecognizable, now.
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[QUOTE=Zelena;5594269]Sure, she lovingly compares humans to insects… When I think about the sweet, compassionate girl Ororo Munro was… my point is that the Phoenix is not the only thing that can taint X-women…
End the X-men, Marvel… they are unrecognizable, now.[/QUOTE]
I don't like it therefore it shouldn't exist? Lol
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[QUOTE=Zelena;5594269]Sure, she lovingly compares humans to insects… When I think about the sweet, compassionate girl Ororo Munro was… my point is that the Phoenix is not the only thing that can taint X-women…
End the X-men, Marvel… they are unrecognizable, now.[/QUOTE]
Haven’t read the panel in question but I’m sure Ororo meant well, she alone could have wiped out the human race multiple times and she always valued other people lives at the cost of risking her own.
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Is this the sentence you are talking about? Because if so... then there is no discussion to be had.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4WPiAMXoAA43PL?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]
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Yes, exactly. The X-Men used to protect humanity for reasons other than "because what about the ecosystem", and far less begrudgingly. Glad the new X-Men aren't bound by the half-supervillain council, or at least that's what the writers claim.
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[QUOTE=davetvs;5594272]I don't like it therefore it shouldn't exist? Lol[/QUOTE]
Some people don't like everything about the Hickman era, or the various retcons and characterization reboots abound in it.
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I swear...there are three and four different versions of the comics on the shelf for some readers to draw the conclusions they get. Either that or...
Either way, Rakurai is absolutely correct...there is absolutely no discussion to be had.
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I think Storm's point there was not comparing humanity to bees, specifically, but pointing out that mutantkind's future is still tied to humanity, in that, for most cases, a mutant is born to human parents, and letting them all die off is like butterflies going on a genocidal rampage against caterpillars.
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Well mutants can give birth to mutants, and is the stated goal of Law 2. So they don't really need humans for that anymore.
Though I wonder what's happen if mutant parents had a human kid in this era. Given the sliding timeline it basically couldn't happen as a story, but it's an interesting bidea. Would they just kick them off the island?
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[QUOTE=Rakurai;5594350]Is this the sentence you are talking about? Because if so... then there is no discussion to be had.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4WPiAMXoAA43PL?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Wow, that’s a very considerate comparison, there is no discussion whatsoever, how can people even paint this as negative ?
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[QUOTE=gonnagiveittoya;5594390]Well mutants can give birth to mutants, and is the stated goal of Law 2. So they don't really need humans for that anymore.
Though I wonder what's happen if mutant parents had a human kid in this era. Given the sliding timeline it basically couldn't happen as a story, but it's an interesting bidea. Would they just kick them off the island?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the answer is unknowable, because non-mutants are completely banned from Krakoa- Kyle, Broo, Captain Britain, Starjammers, etc, are not allowed...
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[QUOTE=Omega Alpha;5594408]Yeah, the answer is unknowable, because non-mutants are completely banned from Krakoa- Kyle, Broo, Captain Britain, Starjammers, etc, are not allowed...[/QUOTE]
Well the second law is Make More Mutants. In theory, mutants who gave birth to a human child would be considered in violation of that law.
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[QUOTE=Rakurai;5594350]Is this the sentence you are talking about? Because if so... then there is no discussion to be had.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4WPiAMXoAA43PL?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Its really very sad that "fans" of the X-Men don't understand the use of an allegory, Storm made a comparison about how species rely on other species and people condemn her for comparing people to bees? That's beyond just missing the point and into the realm of willful ignorance.
[QUOTE=Omega Alpha;5594408]Yeah, the answer is unknowable, because non-mutants are completely banned from Krakoa- Kyle, Broo, Captain Britain, Starjammers, etc, are not allowed...[/QUOTE]
Not true, Kyle lives there, Shogo lived there. Apocalypse offered to take Brian Braddock there. Jean Grey said that non-mutants could come if they were brought by a mutant. They are pretty restrictive but not nearly to the point you are implying.
[QUOTE=gonnagiveittoya;5594415]Well the second law is Make More Mutants. In theory, mutants who gave birth to a human child would be considered in violation of that law.[/QUOTE]
Bullcrap, we already know this is false because Shogo was living there without any problems until Jubilee [B]chose[/B] to go the the lighthouse in Excalibur. This is pure nonsense, the 2nd law says nothing about penalizing people who don't have kids or whos kids turn out human. You are making up things that haven't even been hinted at in an attempt to throw shade at Krakoa.
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5594402]Wow, that’s a very considerate comparison, there is no discussion whatsoever, how can people even paint this as negative ?[/QUOTE]
Seems to me that some are being obtuse about [B]gonnagiveittoya[/B]'s point: Storm isn't directly saying humans are as low as bees, but when have the X-Men fought for humans because of the ecosystem? Or how humans benefit mutants? Used to be that the X-Men would defend even hateful humans because it was the right thing to do.
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[QUOTE=gonnagiveittoya;5594415]Well the second law is Make More Mutants. In theory, mutants who gave birth to a human child would be considered in violation of that law.[/QUOTE]
Maybe not that far, but if the second law states only to have children, isn't that compulsion? I'm sure the writers would simply say that there's no enforcement on this law anyway, but then why word the law that way other than shock/design value?