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[QUOTE=DrNewGod;5231883]We agree. I miss E2, and don't think it was a fraction of the problem TPTB seemed to think it in the early 1980s.[/QUOTE]
It’s just honestly better to use the multiverse vs shelving it. Legacy characters aren’t good, but if you have Earth 1 Flash be somebody completely different than Earth 2 Flash, it works.
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[QUOTE=TheRay;5232523]It’s just honestly better to use the multiverse vs shelving it. Legacy characters aren’t good, but if you have Earth 1 Flash be somebody completely different than Earth 2 Flash, it works.[/QUOTE]
Weirdly enough, I’m of the opposite opinion at the end of the day: legacy characters are awesome and key to maintaining at least the illusion of story progression, and alternate realities are really only best used as “what if?” stories at a certain point.
And maintains the illusion of story progression is the real key to making comics work in the long run, because formula and familiar archetypes can be adapted to new status quo’s, or simply have stories set themselves “in the (ambiguously dated) past” while pretending you can progress the story creates the one thing that no magical eternal status quo can create: long term payoff.
Part of the reason Batman is healthier as a brand than other character is simply because he has legacy characters in both his rogues gallery and his family, and the illusion of him aging has been allowed to happen. All other DC characters have less healthy brands because they’re always a bit more likely to suffer a hard reset instead fo doing a flashback for the creator who wants to deal with older characters without other accoutrements.
That’s not to say that you can’t have older characters take center stage at times... but it needs to be admitted that whereas Hal may have a stronger baseline for selling comics than Kyle, Wally clearly was a stronger character than Barry, and so if Kyle plays second fiddle in stories to Hal... maybe Barry should play second fiddle to Wally.
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[QUOTE=Robanker;5232189]Jaime is a more viable solo Blue Beetle than Ted. I love Ted, but he worked best as part of a duo or team-up. As a solo hero, he really has very little to offer that you can't get better elsewhere. If we're getting a new Blue Beetle series, Jaime has more to work with.
Modern DC should never split to multiple Earths again because it just enables them to use the alternate Earths as torture/disaster porn, a la Earth 2. If you like any characters, until proven otherwise, the only way they have a chance at getting respect is staying on an Earth with Batman because DC can't mess that up too bad if they want to have jobs tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
But all Alternate Earths need not be horror stories. These as much room for a Pre-Crisis E2 as Injustice Earth
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[QUOTE=godisawesome;5232646]Weirdly enough, I’m of the opposite opinion at the end of the day: legacy characters are awesome and key to maintaining at least the illusion of story progression[/QUOTE]
There are plenty of other ways to show that. For example, Superman and Lois dating in the first place shows story progression.
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[QUOTE=DrNewGod;5232997]But all Alternate Earths need not be horror stories. These as much room for a Pre-Crisis E2 as Injustice Earth[/QUOTE]
I agree but I don't trust modern DC to do anything but genocide.
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[QUOTE=TheRay;5233530]There are plenty of other ways to show that. For example, Superman and Lois dating in the first place shows story progression.[/QUOTE]
No one's saying they're the only way.
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He said it was “key” to it.
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[QUOTE=Robanker;5234050]I agree but I don't trust modern DC to do anything but genocide.[/QUOTE]
Your point is valid.
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Stories about “the future” only highlight how the timeline isn’t moving and thus makes me sick of them.
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[QUOTE=PCN24454;5234539]Stories about “the future” only highlight how the timeline isn’t moving and thus makes me sick of them.[/QUOTE]
I think it's fine for epilogues, like the current Hawkman run. It allows the writer/team to have their final word on the character, which of course will be invalidated with the next issue, but it gives a sense of finality to that run that makes for a satisfying conclusion. For people who enjoyed King's Batman, I feel Annual #2 was supposed to be that and I'm cool with it (even if I don't like King's Batman).
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It’s interesting that DC apparently changes so much about Superman, but the one constant is Lois. She has been there since Day 1 and really doesn’t seem to be going anywhere, as well as his job alongside her at the Daily Planet. Sure we’ve seen Elseworlds where these change, but they don’t usually last as long as his regular stories.
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I think my controversial DC opinion today centers on the New Gods. The past regime seemed practically to worship this work by the late, great Jack Kirby. I honestly feel thst having it take over the DCU is a bit much and more than a little offputting.
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There are no more interesting stories to tell with Babs as Batgirl.
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If DC, ever goes for another prequel live action series like Gotham, Smallville, Pennyworth or Krypton. I want the teen adventures of high school paper reporter Lois Lane.
Featuring dealing with problems and conspiracies ranging from her Army General father, her cheeky sister Lucy and the usual teen angst. But more Nancy Drew than superheroine.
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[QUOTE=9th.;5235142]There are no more interesting stories to tell with Babs as Batgirl.[/QUOTE]
We saw that when they made her Steph with Burnside, and it was the most success she found.