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[QUOTE=CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree;4937958]I was referring to this quote from King about the character Orion.
It doesn't bode well for a future movie version of Orion, my favorite character of the New Gods and he struggles to keep his violent impulses in check.
Orion was shown to have grown up in constant abuse before meeting Highfather in Jack Kirby's most acclaimed story ever! Didn't King read it?[/QUOTE]
He was probably more influenced by Starlin's shitty, racist version of Orion. Not that King needs much help in shitting on characters, see Heroes in Crisis or his Batman run.
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[QUOTE=Alpha to Omega;4938450]He was probably more influenced by Starlin's shitty, racist version of Orion. Not that King needs much help in shitting on characters, see Heroes in Crisis or his Batman run.[/QUOTE]
Starlin's DC works are not as good as his Marvel works. Although i don't think King Is familiar with Cosmic Odissey.
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Question about a thing in Simonson's run. Thor was tricked by one of the elf's shapeshifting, but Roger is able to see it's a trick by listening to the elf's voice. Do mortals hear the true voice of dark elves no matter what? I'm probably thinking about too hard about it lol.
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[QUOTE=Crossfist;4938622]Question about a thing in Simonson's run. Thor was tricked by one of the elf's shapeshifting, but Roger is able to see it's a trick by listening to the elf's voice. Do mortals hear the true voice of dark elves no matter what? I'm probably thinking about too hard about it lol.[/QUOTE]
I think Roger has encountered Malekith's boys quite a few time to the point he became familiar with their tricks.
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[QUOTE=Crossfist;4938622]Question about a thing in Simonson's run. Thor was tricked by one of the elf's shapeshifting, but Roger is able to see it's a trick by listening to the elf's voice. Do mortals hear the true voice of dark elves no matter what? I'm probably thinking about too hard about it lol.[/QUOTE]
I think you misunderstood what happened (if we're talking about the same incident): Roger knows that "Melodi" is an elf shapechanger, not because he hears the true voice, but because the ointment that gave him the power to see the Dark Elves has been blasted out of his eyes by Malekith, so he could hear "Melodi" but couldn't see her; realising that the only reason she'd be invisible to him would be if she was actually and elf, he throws his gun at the sound of her voice.
I don't think there is anything to suggest he recognised the voice was elven, just that the peculiar circumstances of the situation meant he had an advantage in that situation that Thor did not.
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[QUOTE=Panic;4938781]I think you misunderstood what happened (if we're talking about the same incident): Roger knows that "Melodi" is an elf shapechanger, not because he hears the true voice, but because the ointment that gave him the power to see the Dark Elves has been blasted out of his eyes by Malekith, so he could hear "Melodi" but couldn't see her; realising that the only reason she'd be invisible to him would be if she was actually and elf, he throws his gun at the sound of her voice.
I don't think there is anything to suggest he recognised the voice was elven, just that the peculiar circumstances of the situation meant he had an advantage in that situation that Thor did not.[/QUOTE]
Gotcha! That makes more sense. Man, what a cool run.
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For me it's the best balanced run in terms of having a sense of humour without parodying Thor or the concept; being epic while feeling quite natural and not a contrived event to sell comics; juggling the old Norse mythological references without forgetting that Thor is also a super-hero with ties to modern Earth and its super-hero community; and introducing new supporting cast members without ditching or denigrating old ones. I think it's one of the best runs of the eighties (and the eighties had some pretty special runs).
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[QUOTE=Panic;4938962]For me it's the best balanced run in terms of having a sense of humour without parodying Thor or the concept; being epic while feeling quite natural and not a contrived event to sell comics; juggling the old Norse mythological references without forgetting that Thor is also a super-hero with ties to modern Earth and its super-hero community; and introducing new supporting cast members without ditching or denigrating old ones. I think it's one of the best runs of the eighties (and the eighties had some pretty special runs).[/QUOTE]
Vehemently agreed :).
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[QUOTE=Panic;4938962]For me it's the best balanced run in terms of having a sense of humour without parodying Thor or the concept; being epic while feeling quite natural and not a contrived event to sell comics; juggling the old Norse mythological references without forgetting that Thor is also a super-hero with ties to modern Earth and its super-hero community; and introducing new supporting cast members without ditching or denigrating old ones. I think it's one of the best runs of the eighties (and the eighties had some pretty special runs).[/QUOTE]
Its a pity Simonson never had Thor use the god blast against Surtur or Jormungand though.
I agree there were great runs in the eighties
DeMatteis and Gruenwald's Captain America.
John Byrne's Fantastic Four.
Roger Stern's Avengers
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[QUOTE=Frontier;4939090][QUOTE=Panic;4938962]For me it's the best balanced run in terms of having a sense of humour without parodying Thor or the concept; being epic while feeling quite natural and not a contrived event to sell comics; juggling the old Norse mythological references without forgetting that Thor is also a super-hero with ties to modern Earth and its super-hero community; and introducing new supporting cast members without ditching or denigrating old ones. I think it's one of the best runs of the eighties (and the eighties had some pretty special runs).[/QUOTE]Vehemently agreed :).[/QUOTE]
Ditto! You'll get no argument from me, that's for sure. ;)
[QUOTE=CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree;4939092]Its a pity Simonson never had Thor use the god blast against Surtur or Jormungand though.
I agree there were great runs in the eighties
DeMatteis and Gruenwald's Captain America.
John Byrne's Fantastic Four.
Roger Stern's Avengers[/QUOTE]
Agree about there being a plethora of great runs during the 80's, but don't forget...
Michelinie/Layton's [I]Iron Man[/I]
Frank Miller's [I]Daredevil[/I]
Roger Stern's [I]Spider-Man[/I]
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I loved Jurgens stuff, Simonson (I liked his Orion too) and Stracynski. I wasn't a huge fan of Busiek's interpretation of Thor. [I]Can't handle bullets[/I]. Really?
Stracynski got it [I]right[/I].
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[QUOTE=Cronus;4939799]I loved Jurgens stuff, Simonson (I liked his Orion too) and Stracynski. I wasn't a huge fan of Busiek's interpretation of Thor. [I]Can't handle bullets[/I]. Really?
Stracynski got it [I]right[/I].
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'Dat Coiple Thor :D.
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[QUOTE=Panic;4938962]For me it's the best balanced run in terms of having a sense of humour without parodying Thor or the concept; being epic while feeling quite natural and not a contrived event to sell comics; juggling the old Norse mythological references without forgetting that Thor is also a super-hero with ties to modern Earth and its super-hero community; and introducing new supporting cast members without ditching or denigrating old ones. I think it's one of the best runs of the eighties (and the eighties had some pretty special runs).[/QUOTE]
If you’re able to write Thor as an animal while at the same time having a convincing sense of dramatic tension, they I think you’ve won at writing for Thor.
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That's the run (JMS) that made me a fan.
Was never a Avengers guy back in the day. I was a fan of the X and FF but (to me) the Avengers always felt like a B-team Justice League who (mostly) couldn't carry solo books. Then Iron Man hit theaters, and I dug that, and Fraction's run was made for people like me. Heard about them making a Thor film, and wanted to get into that before the movie hit. Finding the classic runs wasn't much of an option at the time, and I tried a lot of random crap that left me wondering how Thor stayed in publication until I got to JMS. And with that I was like "Ah, got it!" Been a fan ever since. And Coiple Thor is still how I envision the character (but in my head I add a beard).
And I finally managed to get the Simonson stuff last year. And that.....hot damn, that! is worthy of its reputation.
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On the subject of writing, how are you all here feeling about Donny Cate’s writing for Thor so far?
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