Another Loose End Involving Mysterio In "Dead Man Logan"

[quote]DEAD MAN LOGAN #1 (OF 12)
ED BRISSON (W) • MIKE HENDERSON (A)
Cover by DECLAN SHALVEY
DEAD MEANS DEAD.
The writing’s been on the wall for months now… Logan is dying. And he ain’t getting any better. Sick from the Adamantium coating his skeleton, his search for a cure has led to nothing but dead ends. But for once he’s actually trying to leave this world with some unfinished business… Can Logan take his last breath without slaughtering the X-Men again? Not if Mysterio has anything to say about it…
Superstar creative team ED BRISSON (OLD MAN LOGAN, UNCANNY X-MEN) and MIKE HENDERSON (DEADPOOL VS. OLD MAN LOGAN), with covers by DECLAN SHALVEY (MOON KNIGHT), is putting this old dog out of his misery with a bang![/quote]

[quote]"This is it. This is going to be the big, final Old Man Logan story," series writer Brisson told Newsarama. "Logan's dying and still has a lot of unfinished business to attend to. Dead Man Logan will largely be Logan tying up loose ends - loose ends like Mysterio, the man who, in Old Man Logan's timeline, caused him to kill all of the X-Men. That's not a box that Logan's going to leave unchecked."

That "unchecked box" goes back nine years to the original "Old Man Logan" storyline by Mark Millar and Steve McNiven in Wolverine, where Wolverine killed over 40 villains who attacked Xavier's Mansion only to learn it was an illusion by Mysterio and they were really his fellow X-Men. In this alternate timeline, that led Logan to disavow the 'Wolverine' name and attempt to quietly retire.[/quote]

[url]https://www.newsarama.com/41373-dead-man-logan-debuts-this-november.html[/url]

Considering Mysterio has his own unfinished business with hell itself . . . might that play into whatever entanglements he gets in with Old Man Logan?

I doubt this is going to connect with what Spencer is doing with Mysterio, but it does seem fitting to bring things full-circle with Old Man Logan.

Wasn't the OML Mysterio a different one then Quinten Beck (who was last a prisoner in the Ultimate Universe, if I recall correctly)?

[QUOTE=WebLurker;3846949]Wasn't the OML Mysterio a different one then Quinten Beck (who was last a prisoner in the Ultimate Universe, if I recall correctly)?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, he was the OML timeline's version of Quentin Beck, and speaking of Beck, he's been back in 616 since the end of Secret Wars (2015 version). As of ASM 1 by Nick Spencer, and even earlier in Ben Reilly: The Scarlet Spider by Peter David, it's been confirmed that he really did end up in hell after killing himself in Guardian Devil and that whoever he owes for his current lease on life is coming back to collect.

I was originally gonna say how it wouldn't really make any sense why he would be going after Mysterio, considering they've established Old Man Logan's future is an alternate reality and not the actual future...but then I remember the biggest clues were that Logan didn't know about Amadeus as the Hulk or Jane as Thor, and now that 616 Wolverine is alive again and those two are no longer under their respective alias, now it actually kind of fits.

Mysterio as the main villain in a Old Man Logan limited series is quite cool.
I will be buying this for sure.

Does this mean that Quentin's daughter will become the new Mysterio or perhaps get involved with the X-Men and/or Juggernaut...seeing about a certain power she gained in Scarlet Spider?

[QUOTE=Huntsman Spider;3846954]Yeah, he was the OML timeline's version of Quentin Beck, and speaking of Beck, he's been back in 616 since the end of Secret Wars (2015 version). As of ASM 1 by Nick Spencer, and even earlier in Ben Reilly: The Scarlet Spider by Peter David, it's been confirmed that he really did end up in hell after killing himself in Guardian Devil and that whoever he owes for his current lease on life is coming back to collect.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I could've sworn that OML Mysterio was someone else who had taken Beck's mantle.

So, how does Mysterio's deal with the devil fit with [I]Spider-Men[/I]? Was that ever explained?

[QUOTE=WebLurker;3847660]Wow, I could've sworn that OML Mysterio was someone else who had taken Beck's mantle.

So, how does Mysterio's deal with the devil fit with [I]Spider-Men[/I]? Was that ever explained?[/QUOTE]

Peter David's Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man during and after Civil War had a mysteriously resurrected Beck who still bore the wounds from his suicide at the end of Guardian Devil and implied if not stated outright that he had been sent back up, as it were, by the forces of hell. Then One More Day happened, and Brand New Day reestablished him as a "mere" illusionist who claimed to have faked his suicide, which would indicate that his "resurrection" was just more smoke and mirrors. His role in Spider-Men took place after his reappearance in the Brand New Day Spider-Man comics, particularly after his part in Doctor Octopus's last Sinister Six lineup leading up to and during Ends of the Earth. By the end of Spider-Men, as he had learned 616 Spider-Man's true identity from the Ultimate Peter Parker's death and memorial, Beck was imprisoned in the Ultimate Universe to keep from endangering 616 Peter with that knowledge.

However, when the Marvel Multiverse was destroyed and recreated in Secret Wars (2015), Quentin Beck was folded back into Earth-616 (or Prime Earth, as Marvel is trying to call it now), as seen in an early issue of Spider-Man/Deadpool by Joe Kelly. When Peter David started using him in Ben Reilly: The Scarlet Spider, he continued where he left off with him in Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, establishing that Beck really did die, end up in hell, and somehow come back from that. At first he was trying to lay low and retire from crime because he didn't want to go back to hell, only to get pulled back into that life by his own daughter Misty and after the events that ended in her apparent death . . . we got his appearance in ASM 1, where it was made very explicit that Mysterio bargained with someone to return to life, someone intending to collect on that debt, one way or another.

[QUOTE=Huntsman Spider;3848561]Peter David's Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man during and after Civil War had a mysteriously resurrected Beck who still bore the wounds from his suicide at the end of Guardian Devil and implied if not stated outright that he had been sent back up, as it were, by the forces of hell. Then One More Day happened, and Brand New Day reestablished him as a "mere" illusionist who claimed to have faked his suicide, which would indicate that his "resurrection" was just more smoke and mirrors. His role in Spider-Men took place after his reappearance in the Brand New Day Spider-Man comics, particularly after his part in Doctor Octopus's last Sinister Six lineup leading up to and during Ends of the Earth. By the end of Spider-Men, as he had learned 616 Spider-Man's true identity from the Ultimate Peter Parker's death and memorial, Beck was imprisoned in the Ultimate Universe to keep from endangering 616 Peter with that knowledge.

However, when the Marvel Multiverse was destroyed and recreated in Secret Wars (2015), Quentin Beck was folded back into Earth-616 (or Prime Earth, as Marvel is trying to call it now), as seen in an early issue of Spider-Man/Deadpool by Joe Kelly. When Peter David started using him in Ben Reilly: The Scarlet Spider, he continued where he left off with him in Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, establishing that Beck really did die, end up in hell, and somehow come back from that. At first he was trying to lay low and retire from crime because he didn't want to go back to hell, only to get pulled back into that life by his own daughter Misty and after the events that ended in her apparent death . . . we got his appearance in ASM 1, where it was made very explicit that Mysterio bargained with someone to return to life, someone intending to collect on that debt, one way or another.[/QUOTE]

Okay. Sounds like the right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing here (or didn't care).

[QUOTE=WebLurker;3850086]Okay. Sounds like the right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing here (or didn't care).[/QUOTE]

Pretty much. With One More Day and Brand New Day, they wanted Spider-Man "back to basics" even if it meant discarding more recent developments with him, his supporting cast, and his rogues gallery, particularly the developments influenced by, stemming from, or just during Civil War and its aftermath.

[QUOTE=Inversed;3847439]I was originally gonna say how it wouldn't really make any sense why he would be going after Mysterio, considering they've established Old Man Logan's future is an alternate reality and not the actual future...but then I remember the biggest clues were that Logan didn't know about Amadeus as the Hulk or Jane as Thor, and now that 616 Wolverine is alive again and those two are no longer under their respective alias, now it actually kind of fits.[/QUOTE]That's right, he attacked Ammy thinking he was Bruce, he didn't know about female Thor, and he didn't know about elderly Steve either. Now the world's turning back into one that could possibly be his future - though of course none of the Champions existed in his original timeline (they'd all yet to debut except Amadeus, who didn't have powers at the time) so that team is a wildcard.