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[quote]A stupid concept if there ever was one. If people can't change things that haven't happened yet, then there's no point to life. Everything is predetermined, so why bother? [/quote]I absolutely agree. Doesn't help that the rule are always so hazy as to what's unchangeable or not. Makes it a cheap plot device for angst and misery and [i]also[/i] a cheap plot device for reversing the shocking deaths when they want to.
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[QUOTE=MajorHoy;5308465]Oh, I wouldn't say that . . .
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At first, it seemed like a sweet story, but the more you think about it, it begins to annoy the hell out of you with inconsistencies like Wonder Woman and Zatanna [U]not[/U] trying to do anything that would change the expected outcome.[/QUOTE]
So I read the controversial issue #33 of the Brave and the Bold and I don't know how I feel about this.
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Zee to Babs : "Invite him (Gordon) over to dinner some time. Even cops have to eat."
A few pages later. At the day of the Killing joke.
Babs to Gordon : "I'm so glad you could make it over for dinner, dad. As a friend reminded me lately even cops need to eat."
WTF
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Zatanna
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Eddie-Ferreira
[url]https://www.deviantart.com/eddie-ferreira/art/Zatanna-833445555[/url]
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[QUOTE=Edwin30;5313665]So I read the controversial issue #33 of the Brave and the Bold and I don't know how I feel about this.
Zee to Babs : "Invite him (Gordon) over to dinner some time. Even cops have to eat."
A few pages later. At the day of the Killing joke.
Babs to Gordon : "I'm so glad you could make it over for dinner, dad. As a friend reminded me lately even cops need to eat."
WTF[/QUOTE]
In comic books you can't even invite someone to dinner without it being part of some cosmic uber plot.
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Kind of surprised Victorian Zatanna's in pants.
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You just don't like her in anything besides fishnets or bare legs do you? :P
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Justice League Dark (2018) # 12
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This is one of Zatanna's greatest moments. James Tynion IV and Alvaro Martinez Bueno did a great job making this moment quite memorable. I noticed that Tynion took inspiration from some of Zatanna's history like -
The Red Dragon headress that Zee wore with her Satellite era costume which now has a slightly different design. I like how it's used to hold Sargon's Ruby that contains Mordru's chaos magic.
Ripping the panels of the comic. It is a homage to Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers: Zatanna where Zee fought Zor, an enemy of the Spectre.
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James Tynion IV also added a twist of his own by changing Zatanna's backward speech to anagrams to show Zee's turn toward Chaos.
Also I really like Manbat's eagerness to learn more about magic. His inexperience with magic allows Zee to show her knowledge and expertise in magic.
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I'm probably one of the few who liked her Blue/White JLA costume.
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[QUOTE=John Venus;5318912]You just don't like her in anything besides fishnets or bare legs do you? :P
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I was more thinking of Victorian fashion for ladies, but I am a fan of the iconic look :).
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[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5318973]I'm probably one of the few who liked her Blue/White JLA costume.[/QUOTE]
I like it too. Especially given the reason why she wore it:
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[url]https://twitter.com/GlebMelnikov8/status/1348038890486071296[/url]
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[QUOTE=Hypo;5319861][url]https://twitter.com/GlebMelnikov8/status/1348038890486071296[/url]
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That's a great looking Zatanna! She even has her own rabbit sidekick :D.
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[QUOTE=Hypo;5319861][url]https://twitter.com/GlebMelnikov8/status/1348038890486071296[/url]
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Damn, thought that was for his upcoming mini with Williamson but it’s just fan art sadly.
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[QUOTE=Vordan;5320170]Damn, thought that was for his upcoming mini with Williamson but it’s just fan art sadly.[/QUOTE]
Melnikov does work for DC so I totally understand the confusion. I wish he'd get more work. He's great.
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He definitely draws a great Zatanna :).