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[QUOTE=Heroine Addict;3847942]
IDK, looks like they're the winners there, when it comes to current X-teams. Be careful, butthurt can become you. :p[/QUOTE]
So Land and a new writer gives the book a #1 esque boost, your point? Alex-thrown-into-timeout-by-the-Avengers-and-kicked-out-by-Kitty-Summers, Piotr-left-at-the-altar-and-drunk-off-his-ass-Rasputin, Xombie-Banshee, Dazzler-washed-out-on-tour, and fired-Beast [I]are[/I] losers. That's a certifiable, in-book-referenced story point. Warpath is cool; he's the only one with his head screwed on right at the moment.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;3848024]So Land and a new writer gives the book a #1 esque boost, [B]your point?[/B]...[/QUOTE]
That maybe the premise itself--despite your disparaging bile--about down on their luck X-remnants seeking redemption & a newfound purpose, is more enticing to the market than what else is being offered, in regards to the other Mutant team titles. And when were they referenced as [I]losers[/I] in their own book, I don't recall that?
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[QUOTE=thechronic92;3847734]I don't get what this story was trying to accomplish. Will there be a follow up?[/QUOTE]
Foreshadow that x will take his idea of what's needed for mutants to a radical extrem where he becomes the villain in the future setting the xmen back a few years
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This issue was a bit better than people made it out to be. People still write Bobby as if he switched places with his Amazing Friends self.
So Lucifer is a psychic virus now? People were salty but it worked for the story's conflict between the O4 and X. I haven't finished Soule's Astonishing X-Men arc but I guess that means X's Archangel fix was only temporary and it still shows up as a defense mechanism.
6.5/10
+ X is a jerk
- Give Bobby better jokes
- Art was a roller coaster. It was pretty good when Warren cut that guy's head off and the racist started tripping.
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[QUOTE=wano;3847370]So why are we angry that cyclops killed that psycho?[/QUOTE]
Because he’s better than Cyclops. Who is also a psycho.
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[QUOTE=Heroine Addict;3847942]From the top floppy copies ordered by retailers, in July:
33. Astonishing X-Men #13 - 48,504
42. X-Men Red #6 - 36,808
47. X-Men Gold #31 - 34,842
48. X-Men Gold #32 - 34,409
62. X-Men Blue #31 - 29,346
65. X-Men Blue #32 - 28,839
96. Weapon X #20 - 21,428
IDK, looks like they're the winners there, when it comes to current X-teams. Be careful, butthurt can become you. :p[/QUOTE]
I am butthurt xD I can’t stand Alex, colossus n Beast.
I do like Dazzler tho.
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I really liked how X is a such a bastard. Very classic Xavier. Hope he turns up in a team. The actual plot and story I didn't really care for. Kept reminding me of that Annual from the 90's where Gamesmaster takes over the town and makes everything better.
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[QUOTE=Heroine Addict;3847942]From the top floppy copies ordered by retailers, in July:
33. Astonishing X-Men #13 - 48,504
42. X-Men Red #6 - 36,808
47. X-Men Gold #31 - 34,842
48. X-Men Gold #32 - 34,409
62. X-Men Blue #31 - 29,346
65. X-Men Blue #32 - 28,839
96. Weapon X #20 - 21,428
IDK, looks like they're the winners there, when it comes to current X-teams. Be careful, butthurt can become you. :p[/QUOTE]
Careful with that, Marvel sent a lot of free copies after retailers did not order what they hoped. It ranked 48th in dollars while X-Men Red #6 was 43rd indicating retailers order more of Red. Dollar-wise (which would be closer to amount actually ordered) it landed right between the two issues of Gold.
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The crown jewel of this annual was Bobby comparing his 2lbs-in-under-a-minute-burger-consumption to Jean's phoenix-driven-eating-disorder.
[QUOTE=DDM;3848082]Because he’s better than Cyclops. Who is also a psycho.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=cranger;3848120]Careful with that, Marvel sent a lot of free copies after retailers did not order what they hoped. It ranked 48th in dollars while X-Men Red #6 was 43rd indicating retailers order more of Red. Dollar-wise (which would be closer to amount actually ordered) it landed right between the two issues of Gold.[/QUOTE]
You are correct: [URL="https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/06/29/free-copies-astonishing-x-men-13-old-man-hawkeye-7/"]BleedingCool.com, [B]Comic Shops to Receive Free Copies of Astonishing X-Men #13[/B], Old Man Hawkeye #7[/URL]. Which makes sense, as that puts it right where early digital sales analysis, suggested it would be. I should've known, as the devil's always in the details. And 48K did seem a whole lot better than what I was eXpecting, which was about what it actually ended up doing. Oh well, live & learn, I guess. And remember not to let your enthusiasm cloud your judgement, and overlook things, that are plainly staring you right in the face. :o
Still, it'll be interesting to see where the follow-up #14 [I]lands,[/I] as it should be a truer indicator of retailers' speculation on overall interest. Hopefully, it maintains enough & levels off some, before it likely ends around the time that Uncanny begins.
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[QUOTE=Fokken;3848265]The crown jewel of this annual was Bobby comparing his 2lbs-in-under-a-minute-burger-consumption to Jean's phoenix-driven-eating-disorder. ...[/QUOTE]
Same, which was one of a few reasons why, that I thought this no-filter Iceman didn't feel like...
[QUOTE=Triniking1234;3848081]... he switched places with his Amazing Friends self.
... I guess that means X's Archangel fix was only temporary and it still shows up as a defense mechanism. ...[/QUOTE]
Also would say this was more of an offense mechanism. He knew what he was doing, it didn't seem reactionary, more like intentional. Hence why he bowed, I thought, to hide the early stages of his transformation. The Angel of death came across to me, as judge, jury, & eXecutioner, [I]willingly[/I] so.
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[QUOTE=ExodusCloak;3846423][spoil]
Themes:
Child soldiers
Co-dependency
Xavier's relationship with Jean (sexual thoughts)
Xavier dominating his team and mind wiping them all with ease[/spoil][/QUOTE]
So, basically, more character assassination of Xavier in the same vein as Whedon's Danger arc and Brubaker's [I]Deadly Genesis[/I]. Pass.
Too many of the core cast are morally compromised beyond rehabilitation at this point. Just a bunch of dysfunctional assholes. No one left to root for.
Fuck it. Time to drop the continuity bomb, and start over. No more deconstruction. No more cynical, gray-and-black morality. Get a Kurt Busiek or a Geoff Johns type to reboot the X-Men as [I][B]heroes[/B][/I] again--likable, sympathetic people worth spending time with. Bring them back as people I want to see succeed, not a bunch of morally handicapped anti-heroes I'd rather see brought to justice.
After [I]Secret Wars[/I], Marvel should've left the 616 X-titles dead and just run with [I]X-Men '92[/I] as the new core title. THOSE were the X-Men as they should be. I liked those X-Men. I enjoyed reading their stories. They're good people.
If I want depressing, hypocritical assholery, I'll watch the news.
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When did Xavier's and Jean's relationship come up? He brought them to the town and pissed off before they grouped back to find Hank and Lucy.
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I can give some rope for Xaviers behavior. He died, had a piece of brain used by the Red Skull, was taken captive by the Shadow King and now inhabits a completely new body. What struck me as odd was the teams reaction to him from the get-go. I don't recall the OG5 ever hating Xavier. Yes, they had their disagreements, but there was never any real disgust with him that ever recall. That, and youd think thered be a bit more excitement at finding out your mentor was alive again.
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I wouldn't say hate as much as, mistrust. Which with all things considered, and given the current situation especially, seems plausible.