Simple.enough. Should Vic's tech be home-grown or of alien origin?
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Simple.enough. Should Vic's tech be home-grown or of alien origin?
Start out as home grown, but he can upgrade it over the years.
His tech should be of alien origin. There's something interesting about Vic being made out of tech that he doesn't understand.
based on the lat 7 years ... alien. Also easier to part him on par with the rest of the League and would eliminate the stupid hacking and mutilation DC writers continually put him through
[QUOTE=Jabare;4012385]based on the lat 7 years ... alien. Also easier to part him on par with the rest of the League and would eliminate the stupid hacking and mutilation DC writers continually put him through[/QUOTE]
This. While writers seem to can't help themselves, his tech getting alien should make him less susceptible to being mutilated and I think if he wasn't new god tech it would be harder to justify his place on the league. Plus if his tech was human based he'd be more likely to get wrecked everytime they face an alien with tech just to showcase how powerful they are.
I say both. His dad used tech from the Red Room and the Mother Box upgrades him to basically a god of technology. The Red Room contained alien and human tech, so both.
[QUOTE=lemonpeace;4012394]This. While writers seem to can't help themselves, his tech getting alien should make him less susceptible to being mutilated and I think if he wasn't new god tech it would be harder to justify his place on the league. Plus if his tech was human based he'd be more likely to get wrecked everytime they face an alien with tech just to showcase how powerful they are.[/QUOTE]
If alien tech were indestructible or unhackable, the League would fail every time they went up against an alien threat. Batman has beaten alien enemies with earth technology.
[QUOTE=Agent Z;4012487]If alien tech were indestructible or unhackable, the League would fail every time they went up against an alien threat. Batman has beaten alien enemies with earth technology.[/QUOTE]
point being alien tech should be hard to figure out than an iPhone or a PC which is the equivalent of how Victor is some times treated with the ease and which he's taken out of commission.
It's also easier to digest his transformation and survival of his human anatomy.
Is an Old God people. Nothing as trivial as Human or Alien !
:p
I would say a combination of earth and New God tech - just so it can be unique and that he's not so closely tied to the New Gods when he never was before.
I always assumed that it was a combination of human and alien tech post New 52. Before that his tech was human but Cyborg upgraded over the years.
In the future, his tech should be a combination of human and alien tech.
[QUOTE=j9ac9k;4013114]I would say a combination of earth and New God tech - just so it can be unique and that he's not so closely tied to the New Gods when he never was before.[/QUOTE]
I agree, I think it is better to have the Mother Box just absorb and assimilate Earth and alien/unknown technology and allows Vic to adapt it into his own system, like how New 52 did. It was cool seeing Vic also learning and growing new powers(i.e. flight, learning new language and origins) every day as well if it is handled well, which is one of the few good things the Justice League movie did with the character.
A mixture of his dad's work at Star Labs and intervention from a Mother Box.
Perfect balance.
[QUOTE=Jabare;4012493]point being alien tech should be hard to figure out than an iPhone or a PC which is the equivalent of how Victor is some times treated with the ease and which he's taken out of commission.
It's also easier to digest his transformation and survival of his human anatomy.[/QUOTE]
Again, it won't matter if it's alien or human. The technology is as strong as the writers want it to be. Humanity in Dc has produced all manner of advanced technology.
[QUOTE=Agent Z;4014004]Again, it won't matter if it's alien or human. The technology is as strong as the writers want it to be. Humanity in Dc has produced all manner of advanced technology.[/QUOTE]
That's kind of a moot point because it goes both ways; the difference being frequency. it's a very common trope for writers to present alien tech as being vastly superior to human tech and rarely the other way around unless it serves the story. Hell it's pretty common that even the greatest "human" tech usually end up having some kind of alien origin or component: Lex's apokolipian suit or Cyborg himself currently. I think his tech being alien or at least partially alien decreases the chances of him being dunked on every time a new alien with technology of significance moreso than if he was entirely composed of human technology. I never said it'd make him indestructible or unhackable (we've seen cyborg get slapped around by Murder Machine and Red Lion) but it makes him being busted up less likely from a narrative standpoint.
[QUOTE=LordUltimus;4012371]Start out as home grown, but he can upgrade it over the years.[/QUOTE]
This is how I feel. I feel like his tech should represent Humanity's potential for technology and their innovation and other tech can be added and adapted by Vic as time goes by.
Alien tech wouldn't make him less susceptible to the old fallback of getting ripped apart and hacked. A good writer can only do that. He's already a Mother Box and, supposedly, other alien tech and he's still being undersold.
[QUOTE=lemonpeace;4014027]That's kind of a moot point because it goes both ways; the difference being frequency. it's a very common trope for writers to present alien tech as being vastly superior to human tech and rarely the other way around unless it serves the story. Hell it's pretty common that even the greatest "human" tech usually end up having some kind of alien origin or component: Lex's apokolipian suit or Cyborg himself currently. I think his tech being alien or at least partially alien decreases the chances of him being dunked on every time a new alien with technology of significance moreso than if he was entirely composed of human technology. I never said it'd make him indestructible or unhackable (we've seen cyborg get slapped around by Murder Machine and Red Lion) but it makes him being busted up less likely from a narrative standpoint.[/QUOTE]
Seems to me we've had way more scenes of him getting busted up post-Flashpoint. If it decreased the chance of him being torn apart, it wasn't reflected in the comics.
[QUOTE=Flash Gordon;4013999]A mixture of his dad's work at Star Labs and intervention from a Mother Box.
Perfect balance.[/QUOTE]
This.
I really, really, really like the Fourth World upgrades Vic got in the New52. I think it adds a lot to the guy (or could, if DC could pull their heads out of their asses and utilize him right!). Not only is it enough raw power to put Vic on the same level as Clark, Diana, and Hal, (making Vic one of the most powerful beings in the universe) but it opens up a whole new world of story potential for him.
Some characters *should* use nothing but homegrown human technology. Batman, Starman, etc. But I think Vic benefits from having god tech in his systems, and that extra layer of "fantastical" helps ensure that Cyborg remains unique and on the cutting edge of a field that is becoming more mundane and commonplace with each passing year as wearable technology and artificial smart limbs become more a regular part of our world.
"Yes" to Cyborg always being on the cutting edge of technology. Again, advance the concept.
In a world where we see Iron Man do the amazing things he can do, having Vic do so little is a failure. His skill set alone should be out of this world.
He [B]is not[/B] a stand in for the disabled. He [B]does not[/B] need to maintain some outdated handicap. Green Lantern no longer has a weakness for yellow. Superman no longer just leaps. He flies now in addition to a host of new abilities. Cyborg should no longer have to be a full-time robot. Nor a hologram.
Nanotech. Nanotech. Nanotech. No reason he shouldn't be a full-fledge human who morphs at will. Advance the concept!
Definitely towards the alien tech wise. In the DC universe, it's mostly alien tech and capabilities that remain supreme. From the strongest individuals being aliens, to the most technologically advanced being aliens, it allows the story to make more sense for Cyborg to be greater if he has alien tech. With human tech, people would give excuses for him being able to be cracked at a moments notice. But with possessing alien tech, it allows those who have constructive criticism regarding Cyborg's treatment to have a greater leg to stand on.