Who takes this?
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Who takes this?
They are both capable of tossing the other into space, so it's kind of a coin flip imo.
Shaggy Man will tear off his own arm to escape a grapple though.
[QUOTE=Captain Morgan;4631358]Shaggy Man will tear off his own arm to escape a grapple though.[/QUOTE]
That is a good point.
Does he have any Rebirth showings? I'm using post crisis in my head currently.
Isn't Eiling much stronger than Red Hulk, anyway ?
[QUOTE=Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh;4631881]Isn't Eiling much stronger than Red Hulk, anyway ?[/QUOTE]
Well.. he was outlasting Superman and Orion at once, so arguably. But a lot of that is just his staying power. He's definitely up there though.
[QUOTE=Captain Morgan;4632219]Well.. he was outlasting Superman and Orion at once, so arguably. But a lot of that is just his staying power. He's definitely up there though.[/QUOTE]
Hm ... would Red Hulk even be able to get him in a position where he'd get a BFR, then ? I feel like Eiling would just manhandle him.
Eiling's no joke. Superman and Diana combined resorted to BFR'ing the guy to an asteroid. I'm not sure Red Hulk at his height even stands a chance.
[QUOTE=Cronus;4632744]Eiling's no joke. Superman and Diana combined resorted to BFR'ing the guy to an asteroid. I'm not sure Red Hulk at his height even stands a chance.[/QUOTE]
Superman and Diana both hit him at the same time at superspeed and all it did was knock him back a bit.
[QUOTE=Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh;4632234]Hm ... would Red Hulk even be able to get him in a position where he'd get a BFR, then ? I feel like Eiling would just manhandle him.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, once you hit the Class 100 tier, unless at least one of the characters has some sort of power that allows them to fly/teleport/anchor themselves to the ground/etc..., either fighter should be able to knock the other into space with their first strike.
Of course, an argument can be made that, unless they have some form of super speed, they shouldn't be able to hit with space tossing force, but that's the kind of scenario which would lead with the Hulk hitting with less force than Quicksilver even if his grip and lifting strength is still in the Class 100 tier.
[QUOTE=The Drunkard Kid;4634019]Honestly, once you hit the Class 100 tier, unless at least one of the characters has some sort of power that allows them to fly/teleport/anchor themselves to the ground/etc..., either fighter should be able to knock the other into space with their first strike.
Of course, an argument can be made that, unless they have some form of super speed, they shouldn't be able to hit with space tossing force, but that's the kind of scenario which would lead with the Hulk hitting with less force than Quicksilver even if his grip and lifting strength is still in the Class 100 tier.[/QUOTE]
In practice though while class 100s do sometimes bop each other vast distances it doesn't tend to happen unless there's an opening they are exploiting or something.
My headcanon has always been that people like Superman take hits and don't get sent flying 100s of miles because they make the conscious decision to take and resist the hit. They take more damage but they're not being knocked out of the fight/into someone's house. In the really big fights, I figure they get knocked great distances whether they want to or not, and that's when you know it's more serious etc.
No basis for this other than headcanon for my own satisfaction....
[QUOTE=The Arbiter;4631340]They are both capable of tossing the other into space.[/QUOTE]
C'mon, it'd be hilarious if they did that simultaneously.
[QUOTE=greatmetropolitan;4634528]My headcanon has always been that people like Superman take hits and don't get sent flying 100s of miles because they make the conscious decision to take and resist the hit. They take more damage but they're not being knocked out of the fight/into someone's house. In the really big fights, I figure they get knocked great distances whether they want to or not, and that's when you know it's more serious etc.
No basis for this other than headcanon for my own satisfaction....[/QUOTE]
From a narrative standpoint, this makes sense. A more realistic alternative might look ridiculous. Say that Hulk is fighting the Abomination again. They're both big guys, but neither one weighs more than maybe a half ton. They're both Class 100 in Strength, so they are both capable of hitting a half ton object hard enough to send it hurtling a considerable distance. Unless they started grappling, their fight would consist of taking turns knocking each other long distances and then walking/jogging/running to get back to each other for another hit.
[QUOTE=Slade1;4632878]Superman and Diana both hit him at the same time at superspeed and all it did was knock him back a bit.[/QUOTE]
Uh huh. I'm thinking Eiling might be closer to Juggernaut in power.
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