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We have a new year and a new thread!
[url]https://imagecomics.com/press-releases/lazarus-risen-1-marks-the-return-of-the-new-york-times-bestselling-series[/url]
Let's hope we see a bit more of Forever and her family this year!
I'm stoked. I had completely given up on this series since the end of the X + 66 arc ended. I'm glad to see that it's back on track.
I'm stoked, too. But I've never given up on this series! Haven't reread it, either, but maybe this summer is the time for that. Have learned patience, largely through the old B&W boom, where new series would appear and disappear and reappear and one just had to bear with it. And with a series as superb as Lazarus, the wait is tedious, but always worth it, it seems. So yay! Back on track!
I don't read this series for an eye candy, but the fact that Forever has short hair hurts me a tad.
blah. Rucka's political commentary turns me off.
[QUOTE=Venom2099;4134715]blah. Rucka's political commentary turns me off.[/QUOTE]
I don't mind his politics in the actual stories. I'm not a huge fan of them in the back matter.
[QUOTE=millernumber1;4134723]I don't mind his politics in the actual stories. I'm not a huge fan of them in the back matter.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, that's easy enough to avoid.
On the converse, I find myself increasingly following comics with strong political viewpoints, and consequently, am glad for Rucka's commentaries. And as Ilan P posts, the back matter politics is easy to avoid if you're not.
Well it's out. Lazarus, bigger and better, well just as good.
I like the pacing of the longer story, though quarterly is a long time to wait between issues.
[QUOTE=millernumber1;4134723]I don't mind his politics in the actual stories. I'm not a huge fan of them in the back matter.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ilan Preskovsky;4134781]To be fair, that's easy enough to avoid.[/QUOTE]
Agreed on both counts. The mega delays are what killed the momentum for me, but it's whatever. Like other Image titles that go through delays, I'll buy them when they come out.
The delays and the politics ended my interest in Lazarus.
The politics is one of the reasons I read Lazarus.
Have the newest issue in hand, but have no time to read it! Coming soon--
and surely a good bit o'time til next issue, I guess...!
[QUOTE=Kirby101;4280900]The politics is one of the reasons I read Lazarus.[/QUOTE]
The in-story politics, sure.
[QUOTE=Paulie Blade;4133416]I don't read this series for an eye candy, but the fact that Forever has short hair hurts me a tad.[/QUOTE]
THIS!
The politics in the book are what they are, and the back matter talk is easy to avoid...
I’m a little switched off from the singles now. But I’m interested in reading when more of the collections come out.
Waiting for the next issue and the collections. More news about the Amazon Series wouldn't hurt either^^
[QUOTE=DavidRA;4280849]The delays and the politics ended my interest in Lazarus.[/QUOTE]
I agree just took Lazarus off of my pull lists . Tired of all the delays with Image titles .
I don't understand why one would drop a title like this off a sub list-- in between issues--and yeah, it's a long time between--but in between, there are SO many other things to read, and when Lazarus DOES [finally] publish, for me, it's always been worth the wait, usually prompting a three or four preceding-issues re-read, largely an enjoyable thing. With most series, it seems, there're up and down issues, but overall Lazarus meets a pretty high mark. It does me no harm to keep it on my list; and I'd sure hate to miss the next issue, whenever it does appear.
[QUOTE=matt levin;4364616]I don't understand why one would drop a title like this off a sub list-- in between issues--and yeah, it's a long time between--but in between, there are SO many other things to read, and when Lazarus DOES [finally] publish, for me, it's always been worth the wait, usually prompting a three or four preceding-issues re-read, largely an enjoyable thing. With most series, it seems, there're up and down issues, but overall Lazarus meets a pretty high mark. It does me no harm to keep it on my list; and I'd sure hate to miss the next issue, whenever it does appear.[/QUOTE]
Seriously. Quality of the comic is more important than the dates of its release.
And Rucka was straight-forward about it becoming a quarterly publication. So it's not like it's off-schedule, it's just not monthly.
[QUOTE=Anduinel;4365490]And Rucka was straight-forward about it becoming a quarterly publication. So it's not like it's off-schedule, it's just not monthly.[/QUOTE]
The problem with that is we didn't get the news of quarterly for a long time, and before that, it was just...not coming out.
[QUOTE=millernumber1;4365523]The problem with that is we didn't get the news of quarterly for a long time, and before that, it was just...not coming out.[/QUOTE]
How true . Even with other title I collect of Image they start out with regular issues then leave us hanging . So I have dropped all my image titles this month . Some are on hiatus some are just slow being released and some are being cancelled shortly .
[QUOTE=John Keyt;4365825]How true . Even with other title I collect of Image they start out with regular issues then leave us hanging . So I have dropped all my image titles this month . Some are on hiatus some are just slow being released and some are being cancelled shortly .[/QUOTE]
Still, i dont understand where the problem is? If its good, it doesnt matter how long it takes. And if i dont remember exactly what happend i re-read the latest issue.
Its not that i wait for next issue to ship, its in my pull box. I think canceling a book because of delays is maybe an excuse for not reading it. Maybe you do not like it anymore, and thats your way out of the series...?
[QUOTE=DanMad1977;4368693]Still, i dont understand where the problem is? If its good, it doesnt matter how long it takes. And if i dont remember exactly what happend i re-read the latest issue.
Its not that i wait for next issue to ship, its in my pull box. I think canceling a book because of delays is maybe an excuse for not reading it. Maybe you do not like it anymore, and thats your way out of the series...?[/QUOTE]
Nah , if it's not coming out regularly I just ain't interested in reading series anymore.
[QUOTE=DanMad1977;4368693]Still, i dont understand where the problem is? If its good, it doesnt matter how long it takes. And if i dont remember exactly what happend i re-read the latest issue.
Its not that i wait for next issue to ship, its in my pull box. I think canceling a book because of delays is maybe an excuse for not reading it. Maybe you do not like it anymore, and thats your way out of the series...?[/QUOTE]
Whether you're correct that it should or should not make a difference, the fact is that it clearly does.
Yes, i understand that.
The question is, why would someone loose interest in something that he obviously likes, just because it doesnt come out regulary?
I mean i never lost interest in Got or Vikings or some other show just because it took them longer to produce the next season...
[QUOTE=DanMad1977;4378110]Yes, i understand that.
The question is, why would someone loose interest in something that he obviously likes, just because it doesnt come out regulary?
I mean i never lost interest in Got or Vikings or some other show just because it took them longer to produce the next season...[/QUOTE]
I think that's not a fair comparison. The production of a season took a long time for those shows, but the episodes all aired relatively in succession. Lazarus 1) had no real alert to readers about when they would resume regular publication, and 2) continued to disappoint expectations when a new issue was published.
It never disappoints in quality, let me add, but in terms of when we can expect something, and when it's available to purchase - these are massive elements of friction which slough readers off.
I just got tired of waiting for the next issue to come out . And when it finally did found I was no longer interested in reading it anymore . So why bother when there are a lot of other titles out there that are just as good and have been regular . But what ever works for you 77 works for you , Enjoy reading them . JK out .
[QUOTE=John Keyt;4378916]I just got tired of waiting for the next issue to come out . And when it finally did found I was no longer interested in reading it anymore . So why bother when there are a lot of other titles out there that are just as good and have been regular . But what ever works for you 77 works for you , Enjoy reading them . JK out .[/QUOTE]
Word.
:cool:
Comic fans are a fickle bunch who want gratification on a monthly basis.
I personally don't mind delays. It would be great if all creative teams could magically churn out books on a monthly (Or even bi-weekly) routine, but it's unrealistic and I prefer the original creative team doing their best work on a project rather than see fill-in artists doing rush-jobs to make that monthly schedule.....If the next Lazarus comic is delayed by a year, cool. I'll do a re-read to refresh myself on the series the month of the eventual delayed release.
Hell, I followed Berlin (by Jason Lutes), which had books 2 & 3 delayed by 8 and 10 years, respectively. I didn't mind. My life doesn't desperately revolve around the release dates of comics I enjoy reading.
I'm patiently hoping DC allows Grant Morrison to finish Seaguy. There was a 5-year gap between the first and second mini-series, and it's now been 9 years and counting with no word of volume 3. I'm hoping Morrison starts on volume 3 sometime within the next 5 years and we get a nice, oversize hardcover of the entire series afterward.
Seaguy? Seaguy? *sob!* I always knew that, somewhere, somewhere was there another fan of Seaguy. Yes. Volume 3 in, oh 2021 or so!
[QUOTE=Ramsay Snow;4386685]Comic fans are a fickle bunch who want gratification on a monthly basis.
I personally don't mind delays. It would be great if all creative teams could magically churn out books on a monthly (Or even bi-weekly) routine, but it's unrealistic and I prefer the original creative team doing their best work on a project rather than see fill-in artists doing rush-jobs to make that monthly schedule.....If the next Lazarus comic is delayed by a year, cool. I'll do a re-read to refresh myself on the series the month of the eventual delayed release.
Hell, I followed Berlin (by Jason Lutes), which had books 2 & 3 delayed by 8 and 10 years, respectively. I didn't mind. My life doesn't desperately revolve around the release dates of comics I enjoy reading.
I'm patiently hoping DC allows Grant Morrison to finish Seaguy. There was a 5-year gap between the first and second mini-series, and it's now been 9 years and counting with no word of volume 3. I'm hoping Morrison starts on volume 3 sometime within the next 5 years and we get a nice, oversize hardcover of the entire series afterward.[/QUOTE]
I agree wholeheartedly with your entire post. And not just because you torture people.
[QUOTE=matt levin;4387397]Seaguy? Seaguy? *sob!* I always knew that, somewhere, somewhere was there another fan of Seaguy. Yes. Volume 3 in, oh 2021 or so![/QUOTE]
I'm of the firm belief there are plenty more gentlemen of refined taste and moral virtues who appreciate the greatness of Seaguy.
The second Seaguy mini-series was so good, it leaves me wondering what's next with volume 3!
[QUOTE=Paulie Blade;4387797]I agree wholeheartedly with your entire post. And not just because you torture people.[/QUOTE]
Would you care for some kielbasa, good sir?
Just a heads up, guys: Rucka is back on the Wordballoon podcast. It's really worth a listen, as always (he is easily one of my favourite comics-pro interviewees), and he talks quite a bit about Lazarus during the second hour but here is a brief summary:
He says that Michael Lark is already in the middle of drawing Risen issue 3; he has at least 4 more arcs coming up; Fracture part 2 will start with Risen issue #5 after a standalone for #4 and will significantly change things for the characters in the story.
And if you're wondering why so much of his work has been so late, it's because he seems to be doing about a dozen things at once. Black Magick will be back soon. Nicola Scott has been going through some stuff but she is back on board and they will solicit it when the entire arc is done. It will be short enough a series overall that he thinks it will end by 2022. The Old Guard movie is currently shooting and work will resume on the second arc soon. Lazarus, the TV series, has gone through some "changes" but it's moving slowly, though it's no sure thing. Stumptown, the show, starts later this year and he has been very hands-on with the writing but not production side of the series. The release of the show means that he wants to get back to a new arc on the comic but he hasn't even talked to the artist about it yet so it's still a while away. And then, of course, there's Lois Lane, which he and Mike Perkins are well into already so that should be on time.
I can't wait for the TV series to come out, any links on where I can here about upcoming news on that?
Updated sales numbers
Lazarus #1 48,030 (June 2013)
Lazarus #2 27,143 (July 2013)
Lazarus #3 24,961 (August 2013)
Lazarus #4 23,701 (October 2013)
Lazarus #5 22,695 (December 2013)
Lazarus #6 21,198 (February 2014)
Lazarus #7 20,150 (March 2014)
Lazarus #8 19,826 (April 2014)
Lazarus #9 19,066 (July 2014)
Lazarus #10 18,051 (August 2014)
Lazarus #11 16,531 (September 2014)
Lazarus #12 16,838 (October 2014)
Lazarus #13 16,094 (November 2014)
Lazarus #14 15,896 (January 2015)
Lazarus #15 15,237 (February 2015)
Lazarus #16 15,138 (April 2015)
Lazarus #17 14,980 (June 2015)
Lazarus #18 14,563 (July 2015)
Lazarus #19 14,506 (September 2015)
Lazarus #20 14,218 (November 2015)
Lazarus #21 13,390 (December 2015)
Lazarus #22 14,117 (June 2016)
Lazarus #23 12,300 (July 2016)
Lazarus #24 12,098 (August 2016)
Lazarus #25 11,922 (October 2016)
Lazarus #26 12,348 (March 2017)
Lazarus #27 9,523 (April 2018)
Lazarus #28 9,093 (May 2018)
Lazarus Risen #1 11.362 (March 2019)
Lazarus Risen #2 9.036 (July 2019)
Lazarus Risen #3 7.974 (November 2019)
I just don't see how they can justify continuing the series if it keeps dropping. A real shame.
Yeah, which is a real pity because #3 was just brilliant and it's been consistently a great book. This format doesn't help, I'm sure, but I really don't know how else they can do it. OGNs? I mean, it must sell enough that it supports multiple HCs so maybe original graphic novels are the way to go.