[QUOTE=prepmaster;5517243]Sure a chance to become a villain.[/QUOTE]
Having fun fishing I see.
Or are you picking cherries?
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[QUOTE=prepmaster;5517243]Sure a chance to become a villain.[/QUOTE]
Having fun fishing I see.
Or are you picking cherries?
[QUOTE=Superboy-Prime;5516331]Bruce is [I]waaaaaaaaaay[/I] better but I understand you were being hyperbolic.[/QUOTE]
Bruce doesn't kill. But he's manipulative, emotionally distant, abusive in more than one way, neglectful...
A good example of that can actually be seen in Batman & Robin #20 of the New52 (with Jason Todd at that).
[QUOTE=Jackalope89;5517266]Bruce doesn't kill. But he's manipulative, emotionally distant, abusive in more than one way, neglectful...
A good example of that can actually be seen in Batman & Robin #20 of the New52 (with Jason Todd at that).[/QUOTE]
The fact that Bruce is supposed to be a hero makes him worse/more harmful than Talia. Talia is a villain who grew up in a cult. Damian must realise now that his mum and the LOA are not the norm. The are what normal society consider bad/in the wrong. Bruce and Batman are seen are morally good. Held up as examples of goodness and positivity.
Damian is well and truly fucked
[QUOTE=Jackalope89;5517266]Bruce doesn't kill. But he's manipulative, emotionally distant, abusive in more than one way, neglectful...
A good example of that can actually be seen in Batman & Robin #20 of the New52 (with Jason Todd at that).[/QUOTE]
B-b-b-but, you can't say that! [I]He'S bAtMaN![/I], he's [I]sOoOo SmArT aNd GoOd[/I] he can't be wrong! I bet if he had [B]PrEp-TiMe[/B] he'd be even better. He'd be the [B]BESTEST EVERRRR[/B]. ~ Some fanboy who can't accept Bruce's faults, idk.
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Who are these 2 closely to RESPAWN(Slade/deadpool copy)?
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That might be Copperhead and Black Swan. Williamson mentioned them in an interview.
Yeah they said his Copperhead is a new character, and Black Swan is new too
[QUOTE=Jackalope89;5517266]Bruce doesn't kill. But he's manipulative, emotionally distant, abusive in more than one way, neglectful...
A good example of that can actually be seen in Batman & Robin #20 of the New52 (with Jason Todd at that).[/QUOTE]
And Talia killed Damian. Let's not try and actually pretend like Bruce is by any means worse than Talia. He didn't indoctrinate Damian into a life of murder, she did.
I wish his book was bimonthly
[QUOTE=Superboy-Prime;5518435]And Talia killed Damian. Let's not try and actually pretend like Bruce is by any means worse than Talia. He didn't indoctrinate Damian into a life of murder, she did.[/QUOTE]
I did say that Bruce doesn't kill. Short of that though, he's pretty awful in his own right.
[QUOTE=Superboy-Prime;5518435]And Talia killed Damian. Let's not try and actually pretend like Bruce is by any means worse than Talia. He didn't indoctrinate Damian into a life of murder, she did.[/QUOTE]
The Heretic killed Damian. Not Talia. Talia killed the assassins that shot at Damian and eventually killed the Heretic for his continuous disobedience. She told Ra's that she hadn't thought Damian would be there.
Damian told Alfred his reasons for leaving the batcave and joining the fight. He wanted to prove Bruce wrong, who in their last conversation told Damian that he could never be Batman, could not be Robin either and that the only way out Bruce saw for them was to send him back to Talia because otherwise he would doom them all.
Bruce and Talia were both involuntarily at fault for Damian's death.
Talia intoctrinated him into a life of murder, Bruce is indoctrinating him in an endless fight against crime that has lead Damian to suffer terrible injuries, mental trauma and three, if Damian really died ln Robin #1, four deaths.
The cause may be better, but it's not good for Damian either.
[QUOTE=Superboy-Prime;5518435]And Talia killed Damian. Let's not try and actually pretend like Bruce is by any means worse than Talia. He didn't indoctrinate Damian into a life of murder, she did.[/QUOTE]
Talia didn't kill Damian, Heretic went against her orders and killed Damian.
Sure Talia put Damian in a position that got him killed which lets be honest Bruce has done. What happened to damian was what happened to Jason. Adults responsible for their care put them in the line of fire.
And on the subject of indoctrination, Bruce does the same. He did indoctrinate Tim Drake another man's kid into his war. The whole pathetic Bruce allowed them because they asked is bonk. he is the adult.
Talia is a bad guy for sure [she blew up Bludhaven] but those two charges you bring up against her; causing the death of a minor and indoctrination /corrupting a minor are crimes that Bruce is also guilty of.
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These characters all look so good. Still haven't read the 1st issue [couldn't get my hands on a physical copy], looking forward to getting to know these guy's
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I can see Mileena/Skarlet, Shang Tsung, Jade/Tanya, Kitana and Scorpion in this image XD.
Looks really colorful and badass. It's gonna be a looong month.
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Talia is a bad guy for sure [she blew up Bludhaven] [/QUOTE]
Debatable.
Talia had been killed and revived with the pits countless times by her sister Nyssa in Death and the Maidens in 2003/2004 to brainwash her into becoming evil. Context matters.