For those of you that like Otto Octavius as the Superior Spider-man:
What are your thoughts on the One More Day scenario that de-evolved the character back to the beginning of his creation.
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For those of you that like Otto Octavius as the Superior Spider-man:
What are your thoughts on the One More Day scenario that de-evolved the character back to the beginning of his creation.
The ending was good because it didn't undo his development, it was a halfway measure that let the book take the reader on a feels trip while letting the next writer choose which direction they want to lean towards. And by "let the next writer choose" I mean "let the next writer actually **** it up." Spencer probably would not **** it up, though. His Otto take is basically the only thing that might convince me that the run shouldn't end next year.
Wait is there a new Superior Spiderman book coming?
I thought it was complete ass and a slap in the face to his development.
This Otto is not Otto Octavious he's an A.I duplicate and so once finding himself able to stand on his own, he reverts to being a man he never actually was. The A.I started as Spider-man even if he literally didn't start as Spider-man. His goal was to continue being Spider-man and seemed to enjoy it. Now he's a man everybody kept saying he was, a man Otto literally isn't because he's dead, and gave into peer pressure from Mephisto of all people because he couldn't take Norman Osborn. I would also like to reiterate that Otto as Spider-man is significantly better equipped but no the fat old man with outdated equipment is apparently what you need to take on "the most dangerous villain" Otto has ever faced despite fighting Terrax in the first arc. And sure even if he's retained some aspects of this, it's still turning him into something he's not and unintentionally saying that peer pressure makes you who you are, no I didn't like the ending.
Even if this was planned this also is shooting a franchise spin-off in the foot because despite having another Doctor Octopus and the means to simply make another Otto, no we ended up doing the stupid thing and removing a spin-off because Peter Parker needed six more books to dominate shelf-space. And for what? Otto has yet to show up anywhere and even if he has nobody seems to have noticed. The most relevant he's been in a decade and it was ditched for..., nostalgia? What's the point of resetting the board if it isn't the same Otto and you can have both? The people who hated Superior Spider-man aren't even reading the book.
I really enjoyed Superior Spider-man. It was my favorite newer book that I have read and is one of my favorite spider man stories. I was said it ended and how it ended.
dispointed sad to see them go to back to old Doc Ock but now i know how the comic game works i dont even care anymore
[QUOTE=boltmonster;4896408]For those of you that like Otto Octavius as the Superior Spider-man:
What are your thoughts on the One More Day scenario that de-evolved the character back to the beginning of his creation.[/QUOTE]
I hated the OMD type f'u ending to fans of Superior Spider-Man. It made me stop reading 616 Spider-Man related comic books, no joke. I still follow Miles and (for the most part) Spider-Gwen.
Superior Spider-Man/Superior Octopus was a great deal of fun while the ride lasted. SSM Era was the most I've enjoyed Ock since I was a kid in the late 1980s' and 1990s'. SSM Ock (and the concept in general) was (by far) the best thing Slott did during his run, IMO. Oh, and the story arc introduced the greatest new comic book supporting character bar none of the last twenty years (or longer), my best girl, Anna Maria Marconi. :) :cool:
Hated it, there were many MANY ways of ending it and getting fat Ock back but no, they went with the stupid way.
What was worse was the writer admitting on Twitter that Marvel didnt pressure him to do it, he just thought OMD was cool and that it fit Ottos journey. Which made him look hideously out of touch with the fanbase considering even the people that hate the marriage think that it was way too on the nose.
[QUOTE=jetengine;4898311]Hated it, there were many MANY ways of ending it and getting fat Ock back but no, they went with the stupid way.
What was worse was the writer admitting on Twitter that Marvel didnt pressure him to do it, he just thought OMD was cool and that it fit Ottos journey. Which made him look hideously out of touch with the fanbase considering even the people that hate the marriage think that it was way too on the nose.[/QUOTE]
Wow, i think that hurts more than anything, knowing we still could have had a Superior Otto but for the whim of a writer, and not an editorial mandate.
[QUOTE=SpideyClone;4898448]Wow, i think that hurts more than anything, knowing we still could have had a Superior Otto but for the whim of a writer, and not an editorial mandate.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, I don't know what to say... :p
[QUOTE=Celgress;4898874]Indeed, I don't know what to say... :p[/QUOTE]
The thing is we could have had both and they even made it look like they'd done that for a brief second before going "Nah **** you"
[QUOTE=jetengine;4898311]Hated it, there were many MANY ways of ending it and getting fat Ock back but no, they went with the stupid way.
What was worse was the writer admitting on Twitter that Marvel didnt pressure him to do it, he just thought OMD was cool and that it fit Ottos journey. Which made him look hideously out of touch with the fanbase considering even the people that hate the marriage think that it was way too on the nose.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SpideyClone;4898448]Wow, i think that hurts more than anything, knowing we still could have had a Superior Otto but for the whim of a writer, and not an editorial mandate.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that [I]is[/I] immensely disappointing to find out.
No, he did it because he wanted the story to be a tragedy and thought someone else would inevitably reset him, so he did it in a way where his story has an ending but the next writer is in a position where they can choose how much Otto remembers and how much development he retains, because it was a halfway measure.
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[video=youtube;UakqbXsuqVs]https://youtube.com/watch?v=UakqbXsuqVs[/video]
[QUOTE=Snoop Dogg;4899078]No, he did it because he wanted the story to be a tragedy and thought someone else would inevitably reset him, so he did it in a way where his story has an ending but the next writer is in a position where they can choose how much Otto remembers and how much development he retains, because it was a halfway measure.
Go to 23:40
[video=youtube;UakqbXsuqVs]https://youtube.com/watch?v=UakqbXsuqVs[/video][/QUOTE]
That's interesting to know. Maybe takes the sting off it a little.
[QUOTE=Huntsman Spider;4899226]That's interesting to know. Maybe takes the sting off it a little.[/QUOTE]
A little, but as a fan of the SSM character (along with the general concept behind Otto's original Superior run) it still hurts plenty. :(