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[QUOTE=PsychoEFrost;4554353]Jean has died between 40 and 50 times. Xavier barely reached double digits.
[B]It became mimetic because Jean died in high profile stories[/B], while Charles's deaths are mostly swerves and fake outs.[/QUOTE]
This, really. The Dark Phoenix Saga is probably the single most famous X-Men story, and if not, it's in the top 3 along with Days of Future Past and God Loves, Man Kills. Then you add in her dying in Morrison's run, which set the table for the next decade plus of the comics.
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I always forget all the times she died on Endsong, I usually only count Morrison and DPS. But usually when Jean dies it is a big deal for everybody. Something changes on the X-men, not sure that for the better
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[QUOTE=phoenixzero23;4554489]I always forget all the times she died on Endsong, I usually only count Morrison and DPS. But usually when Jean dies it is a big deal for everybody. Something changes on the X-men, not sure that for the better[/QUOTE]
That's the other thing - Jean dying means a change in the status quo, whereas Xavier dying merely means the story is progressing along a logical path (moving on without the mentor is a well worn trope).
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[QUOTE=phoenixzero23;4554089]I don't think any company would insure anybody from the X-men[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FluffyCyclopsRLZ;4553863]I have a hard time imagining a MU insurance company being brave/dumb to sue Jeansus.[/QUOTE]
Hm, you guys are right. They probably just have pictures of different superheroes that they need to avoid. Or Charles has been up to something to ensure insurance for his students...
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there should have been a story in the Marvel universe about a man or woman who got married again and his dead wife resurrected, with Matt Murdock and She Hulk arguing about the meaning of till death do us apart
not about Scott or Jean, but I would like to see it about minor characters.
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[QUOTE=lurkerforyears;4554580]there should have been a story in the Marvel universe about a man or woman who got married again and his dead wife resurrected, with Matt Murdock and She Hulk arguing about the meaning of till death do us apart
not about Scott or Jean, but I would like to see it about minor characters.[/QUOTE]
That would be pretty neat.
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[QUOTE=lurkerforyears;4554580]there should have been a story in the Marvel universe about a man or woman who got married again and his dead wife resurrected, with Matt Murdock and She Hulk arguing about the meaning of till death do us apart
not about Scott or Jean, but I would like to see it about minor characters.[/QUOTE]
That could have been done in one of the previous She-Hulk series, the one where she went through a lot of wacky courtroom drama (I mainly remember the cover with a certain big headed villain "Objection! Counsel is LEADING the witness!" Better yet if you actually use a thinly veiled copy for Scott and Jean - a parody of the worst characterization each has, maybe even genderflipped for extra lulz.
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[QUOTE=TheDeadSpace;4554742]Your guess is as good as mine at this point. Although when it comes to Xavier, his guilt over murdering him would have probably played into making amends of some kind.[/QUOTE]
With Vulcan, the fact he's alive now because of Chuck.
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[QUOTE=Omega Alpha;4554747]With Vulcan, the fact he's alive now because of Chuck.[/QUOTE]
Would that be enough to have him cooperate with the rest of the x-men?
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This right here.
[URL="https://twitter.com/HouseofSummers/status/1170957020645789697?s=19"]https://twitter.com/HouseofSummers/status/1170957020645789697?s=19[/URL]
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I think some are really exaggerating, Scott did many things right but he also made mistakes, he lived throught extreme times and had to take difficult decisions, many were things he didn't like but had to do.
There is nothing wrong in admit he made mistakes.
And kid Cable is Cable, he brought Scott back because he loves him and killed himself to return the time displaced O5 to their time because it was going to end on a bad future.
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[QUOTE=phoenixzero23;4557138]I think some are really exaggerating, Scott did many things right but he also made mistakes, he lived throught extreme times and had to take difficult decisions, many were things he didn't like but had to do.
There is nothing wrong in admit he made mistakes.
And kid Cable is Cable, he brought Scott back because he loves him and killed himself to return the time displaced O5 to their time because it was going to end on a bad future.[/QUOTE]
You clearly read the tweet wrong. Maybe on purpose too.
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[QUOTE=AHRNIHAL;4557145]You clearly read the tweet wrong. Maybe on purpose too.[/QUOTE]
If i did wrong, then it was my mistake and not something on purpose. What do you think I missed?
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That he was screwed over in avx. With evidence on why he didn't trust the avengers swept under the rug.
It's ok you don't like post morrison Cyclops but you act like he was this huge evil with no justification for his situation.
It feels like your quick to defend Jean but not so quick to defend Scott. At least thats how I see it.