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[QUOTE=Ichijinijisanji;4125585]im curious
did ksd get her run because of movie plans, or did the movie happen because of her run?[/QUOTE]
KSD came first, as far as I know.
Reportedly (and my memory might be off) Marvel Studios had people write tons of treatments, drafts, and pitches for movies as a kind of writing exercise and to see how characters could fit into the MCU. Nothing official or anything, and these weren't IP's that they had any actual plans for, it was mostly just a writing exercise. And one of those many drafts was for Carol, under the Ms. Marvel name.
But actual movie plans didn't start to happen until after KSD.
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[QUOTE=Hypestyle;4126198]where can you get copies of the full size posters?[/QUOTE]
I got myself a copy of the first poster they released off of ebay. As to where you can buy them directly... I don't know.
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[QUOTE=Digifiend;4125687]She's absolved of that. The Master's been picking on the Champions recently. Carol actually showed up in issue 21.[/QUOTE]
im talking about her strong sense of responsibility and guilt and how the whole character arc starting with her alcoholism concluded in that issue with the same roundtable discussion at the end of live kree or die
[QUOTE=lilyinblue;4126167] I've found that Carol and Tony have always been kind of antagonistic towards each other, even long before CW2. They're dear friends, but they don't always get along... and even when they're getting along well, they're still going to be sniping at each other. (And some people might actually appreciate that she pushes back against Tony. Someone has to! They're good foils for each other.)[/QUOTE]
ya but it's different now isn't it?
something as significant as CWII even if you don't mention it explicitly should reflect in the dialogue shouldn't it?
Like I remember what happened in the first Civil war with julia carpenter and I remember how brian reed treated the moral injury aspect of what it did to carol.
edit: Like for some reason I keep picturing conversations where carol keeps taking it easy and reserved around tony almost apologetic, and tony notices it, how a dynamic between them has changed and even though neither of them really like talking about their feelings, they eventually are put in a situation that they do. Just done subtly
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maybe I should write fanfic? lmao
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CWII was a story where she was being played by a third party and she still did enough introspective guilt-tripping about it in Margie's run and SE. Her dynamic with Tony was restored to normal in Avengers. They're both over it and back to having snark contests.
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Seems kind of weird to establish Carol's been spending too much time in space then immediately send her into a post-apocalyptic setting.
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Really good first issue. Thompson's flair for dialogue gives this kick-off plenty of personality.
Will be sticking with this run.
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"Wow, you're old" :p Maybe Carol should show Jennifer her 8-track tape player, her VCR and her LP collection. (Remember the "Soundtrack to Saturday Night Fever" came out when she was the editor of "Woman" magazine. :) )
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[QUOTE=mikeb;4127223]"Wow, you're old" :p Maybe Carol should show Jennifer her 8-track tape player, her VCR and her LP collection. (Remember the "Soundtrack to Saturday Night Fever" came out when she was the editor of "Woman" magazine. :) )[/QUOTE]
Speaking of which, I wonder if the reporter introduced in this issue is supposed to connect to that.
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There's definitely a lot to like about this issue, from the Jess/Carol friendship, to the mentor/mentee relationship, to even the reporter (which reminds me of Brian Reed's Ms. Marvel run).
But, to be honest, I'm really excited to see Echo there at the end. I know that has so little to do with everything else, but it's still cool.
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Issue #1 came out today with no Legacy Number, despite Carol getting up to #129 last year.
Wonder if this is the new trend.
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It didn't have the corner box or a banner that makes it easier to do dual numbering. If they had something like that, I don't see the harm to having dual numbering, but it's not always easy to do.
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When did Rhodey get resurrected?
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[QUOTE=Gymer;4127933]When did Rhodey get resurrected?[/QUOTE]
The last arc of Invincible Iron Man prior to the company wide relaunch.
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[QUOTE=dreyga2000;4125622]As far as know the movie only more of a possibility because of her run. I remember there being rumors for a Ms. Marvel script floating around that time but it seemed unlikely that it would come to pass. Then KSD essentially rebooted the character when Carol got a new name and costume. Her run cemented depiction of Carol that would become standard in there MU and struck a chord with a new and active fan base aka The Carol Corps. This led to Carol getting bunch of big pushes that led to a movie.[/QUOTE]
I think that was Marvel seeing the success of Wonder Woman.