This is basically to see if Zuko could control Johny's flames. Do you think Zuko's firebending is strong enough to counter HT?
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This is basically to see if Zuko could control Johny's flames. Do you think Zuko's firebending is strong enough to counter HT?
Unless Zuko can control Supernova, I don't think Zuko will ever defeat Johnny.
Short answer: no.
Even if Zuko could block an attack, It ultimately wouldn't matter, because Torch can just maintain a level of output that puts Sosen's Comet to shame without much issue, so Zuko would never get the chance to go on the offensive.
[QUOTE=Captain Morgan;5240257]Short answer: no.
Even if Zuko could block an attack, It ultimately wouldn't matter, because Torch can just maintain a level of output that puts Sosen's Comet to shame without much issue, so Zuko would never get the chance to go on the offensive.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking more if Zuko could firebend Human Torch himself not just his fire. I doubt it but I wanted to see what others think.
[QUOTE=Slade1;5240277]I was thinking more if Zuko could firebend Human Torch himself not just his fire. I doubt it but I wanted to see what others think.[/QUOTE]
I don't THINK Torch is actually made of fire, like how Iceman is made of Ice. I think he is just covered in it.
Torch generates and controls the fire with a level of intuition and scale I don't think Zuko can override.
Interestingly, [URL="https://imgur.com/a/gHlwr"]Torch is also able to exert control over fire external to himself[/URL], so he's something of a Firebender as well.
Of course, the OP granted a Rumble is obviously in Johnny's favour. Only one of these guys has a burn scar after all.
i don't think i can remember zuko bending someone else's fire, like another bender.
[QUOTE=Captain Morgan;5240257]Short answer: no.
Even if Zuko could block an attack, It ultimately wouldn't matter, because Torch can just maintain a level of output that puts Sosen's Comet to shame without much issue, so Zuko would never get the chance to go on the offensive.[/QUOTE]
Would Johnny being near Zuko power him up like Sozin's comet?
[QUOTE=Stigmazilla;5241709]Would Johnny being near Zuko power him up like Sozin's comet?[/QUOTE]
Can't see why it would. The comet works because bending is powered by spiritual mystic stuff. Johnny isn't that. In fact, he has been burned by hellfire.
[QUOTE=Captain Morgan;5241953]Can't see why it would. The comet works because bending is powered by spiritual mystic stuff. Johnny isn't that. In fact, he has been burned by hellfire.[/QUOTE]
it's specifically noted that fire benders have a spiritual connection to the sun and thus are stronger during the day. similar to how water benders are stronger during a full moon.
if zuko did get a power up from johnny, then any source of fire would be a power up for him.
[QUOTE=master of read;5242116]it's specifically noted that fire benders have a spiritual connection to the sun and thus are stronger during the day. similar to how water benders are stronger during a full moon.
if zuko did get a power up from johnny, then any source of fire would be a power up for him.[/QUOTE]
To play Devil's advocate, Johnny's powers come from Cosmic Radiation, generated by a solar flare overcharging the Van Allen radiation belts. So Johnny's are technically derived from the sun too.
Not that it would make much of a difference, mind.
[QUOTE=Jcogginsa;5242202]To play Devil's advocate, Johnny's powers come from Cosmic Radiation, generated by a solar flare overcharging the Van Allen radiation belts. So Johnny's are technically derived from the sun too.
Not that it would make much of a difference, mind.[/QUOTE]
that was retconed a bit in the recent FF run. it was radiation from an alien planet who thought they were conquoers.
it's a long story.
[QUOTE=master of read;5242220]that was retconed a bit in the recent FF run. it was radiation from an alien planet who thought they were conquoers.
it's a long story.[/QUOTE]
Is this the same run that retconned Franklin into not being a mutant?
[QUOTE=Jcogginsa;5242230]Is this the same run that retconned Franklin into not being a mutant?[/QUOTE]
not sure. in the current run, franklin is still a mutant. his powers are just fucked up right now.
[QUOTE=master of read;5242235]not sure. in the current run, franklin is still a mutant. his powers are just fucked up right now.[/QUOTE]
No, in the newest issue it was revealed that Franklin has never been a mutant, he was just subconciously faking it