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It's much better than the first trailer. Cinematography is still hit or miss, although less miss in the second trailer, since we saw less of the blur dull blue sky back ground. let me just get that out of the way as I know this was a big issue in the first trailer.
I wonder what the reaction would be from fans about starting the first sentence of the trailer with Thanos. This is one battle Feige cannot win anymore. the first trailer was criticised because people asked where were the Eternals during Thanos snapping up people, now this trailer will get criticised because some will say the movie wants to get people falsely hyped up and get butts in cinema chairs by talking a lot about Thanos.
The overall reaching story still looks generic. I am bit taken back that Marvel is still using sentences like save the planet.
Lastly the joke in the final scene was another unnecessary moment, making jokes about Vibranium. These kind of jokes still has the same problem as the Leading Avengers joke of the first trailer because it is making MCU too laughably dependent on their cross over connection. Marvel needs to trust fans can like the Eternals on their own terms without having to remind us, they know other marvel characters like Avengers and Wakandaians.
Angelina Jolie to me is really stealing the show. You just cannot take your eyes of this woman whenever she is on screen. I loved her Hello line.
That’s.more.like.it.
Seeing the eye beams, the Celestials and more of the Kirby influence.
This is what I wanted from an Eternals movie.
Meh like the other MCU movies this year it just looks okay.....
I loved Nomadland and I'm currently watching WandaVision and I have regained some of my interest in the MCU, as I've been enjoying it a lot. I don't want to hype myself, but I really hope that this movie ends up being great
o essentially the energy from the Snap and the re-snap instigated the whole big thing the Eternals are supposed to deal with and the final Eternals vs Deviants war and them needing to get the band back together.
Look at Dane being our audience surrogate.
How many people are going to be comparing Ikaris to Superman, I wonder? It really seems like he has Heat Vision.
Sersi's transmuation looks awesome :cool:.
First look at the lead Deviant and he looks suitably creepy :eek:.
Afraid Phastos doesn't make everything out of Vibranium, Ikaris.
Sprite looks so done with this ;).
Okay, I'm onboard with this. I'll concede that I'd like to know more about the characters, but it sets up who theses guys are, what their deal is, and why we should care.
[QUOTE=Castle;5689317]I wonder what the reaction would be from fans about starting the first sentence of the trailer with Thanos. This is one battle Feige cannot win anymore. the first trailer was criticised because people asked where were the Eternals during Thanos snapping up people, [B]now this trailer will get criticised because some will say the movie wants to get people falsely hyped up and get butts in cinema chairs by talking a lot about Thanos.[/B][/quote]
Or maybe it's just setting itself up by providing a little context on how the movie fits into the rest of the series.
[QUOTE=Castle;5689317]Lastly the joke in the final scene was another unnecessary moment, making jokes about Vibranium. These kind of jokes still has the same problem as the Leading Avengers joke of the first trailer because it is making MCU too laughably dependent on their cross over connection. Marvel needs to trust fans can like the Eternals on their own terms without having to remind us, they know other marvel characters like Avengers and Wakandaians.[/QUOTE]
Or, it's just borrowing a piece of worldbuilding that's floating around, just like how how mega franchises and cinematic universes, from [I]Star Trek[/I], to the DECU (mainstream and Snyderverse configurations) work (not to mention how comics work in general). I get the impression that you're unhappy that it's part of a cinematic universe rather than being completely stand alone, but maybe we should judge it for what it is, not what we want it to be?
So apparently all these memes floating around after the first trailer really got to Marvel and they felt the need to give an on the nose explanation as to why the Eternals never interfered before. :D
Yeesh. To me it looks like they took everything about the comics Eternals characters and decided to do the opposite. Then add Deviants. Already planning on sitting this one out, like I did with all the Inhumans stuff.
Either I don't get Kirby or Marvel doesn't, and I think its the latter.
Eyebeams. Spaceships. Space gods. Light bondage... What more could I ask for?! ^_^
The Celestial. OMG!
I'm a bit sad the Eternals aren't a million years old.
After a recent article, I was afraid Sersi would be an empath. Was that her saving her man, Dane, by transmuting the bus to rose petals? How sweet.
Please don't let the Deviants all be generic tentacle monsters. At least Kro looked vaguely human, and they're keeping his (ahem) entanglement with Thena.
The fight sequences look epic.
Looking forward to this movie!
The cinematography looks excellent and I love how the Eternals powers are depicted in this. I'm excited for this.
[QUOTE=chicago_bastard;5690101]So apparently all these memes floating around after the first trailer really got to Marvel and they felt the need to give an on the nose explanation as to why the Eternals never interfered before. :D[/QUOTE]
You make it sound like Marvel rang up Salma Hayek, Richard Madden and the rest of the cast and crew and got them to act out these scenes and re edited the whole film to fit this stuff in. ;P
Obviously they written this stuff into the movie months if not, a couple of years ago. The first teaser was meant to introduce people to these characters and the trailer is meant to give them more information about the characters and where they fit in with the grand narrative of the MCU.
[QUOTE=nx01a;5690171]The Celestial. OMG![/QUOTE]
They look epic :).
[QUOTE]After a recent article, I was afraid Sersi would be an empath. Was that her saving her man, Dane, by transmuting the bus to rose petals? How sweet.[/QUOTE]
Transmuting a vehicle into rose petals is the most Sersi thing ever.
[QUOTE]Please don't let the Deviants all be generic tentacle monsters. At least Kro looked vaguely human, and they're keeping his (ahem) entanglement with Thena.[/QUOTE]
People have compared Thena to Wonder Woman, so no surprise she gets the bondage scene.
[QUOTE=Scott Taylor;5690169]Yeesh. To me it looks like they took everything about the comics Eternals characters and decided to do the opposite. Then add Deviants. Already planning on sitting this one out, like I did with all the Inhumans stuff.
Either I don't get Kirby or Marvel doesn't, and I think its the latter.[/QUOTE]
I fail to see what they're doing wrong here.
Everything looks fine so far.
[QUOTE=Metro;5690230]I fail to see what they're doing wrong here.
Everything looks fine so far.[/QUOTE]
I kind of get where they're coming from.
The modern setting shots look more like the Gaiman take.
I think some of us long-time Eternal fans wanted to see more of the Kirby version BUT the flash-backs look Kirby-esque to me.
One of the supposed test screeners said the opening 15 minutes of the movie is a giant love letter to Kirby.
We shall see if that is true or not.
I dunno, still not feeling it. Gunn's "the Suicide Squad" was a huge game changer (for me), and this still feels very "Marvel formulaic." Even Marvel's more inventive TV series (WandaVision and Loki) still devolved into very basic "Marvel" action in the last half of the stories. And giant cgi Celestials aren't enough of a draw to me. (We've already had Transformers, big budget Godzilla movies and whatnot.)
Compared to how I found the first trailer cold, dull and off-putting this really made me feel like I'm back on the MCU train again. The impression I got was there was a lot of UK actors which made me feel like i was watching a period piece of the peerage protecting commoners lol. I might end up disliking it but as of now I like what I'm seeing.
Wow I am very excited for this movie. I love the new trailer.
I want to be excited about this movie, but I'm still having trouble understanding why I should care about these characters or whatever nebulous thing they are trying to accomplish.
[QUOTE=Vegeta;5690338]I dunno, still not feeling it. Gunn's "the Suicide Squad" was a huge game changer (for me), and this still feels very "Marvel formulaic." Even Marvel's more inventive TV series (WandaVision and Loki) still devolved into very basic "Marvel" action in the last half of the stories. And giant cgi Celestials aren't enough of a draw to me. (We've already had Transformers, big budget Godzilla movies and whatnot.)[/QUOTE]
It's strange you talk about the Suicide Squad as if by the end it didn't do exactly just that
Heck Loki didn't end that way
[QUOTE=green_garnish;5690583]I want to be excited about this movie, but I'm still having trouble understanding why I should care about these characters or whatever nebulous thing they are trying to accomplish.[/QUOTE]
Feels like you're asking too much of a trailer.
The movie itself is supposed, the trailers are just supposed to let you know what the movie is about.
[QUOTE=green_garnish;5690583]I want to be excited about this movie, but I'm still having trouble understanding why I should care about these characters or whatever nebulous thing they are trying to accomplish.[/QUOTE]
I'm in the same boat, it looks beautiful but it just doesn't resonate with me.
[QUOTE=BeastieRunner;5690280]I kind of get where they're coming from.
The modern setting shots look more like the Gaiman take.
I think some of us long-time Eternal fans wanted to see more of the Kirby version BUT the flash-backs look Kirby-esque to me.
One of the supposed test screeners said the opening 15 minutes of the movie is a giant love letter to Kirby.
We shall see if that is true or not.[/QUOTE]
That might be it. Gaiman versus Kirby. The Gaiman series was ok, at least in the beginning. I felt that it needed the foundation Kirby provided to even work at all, and perhaps this movie is diving into Gaiman without doing Kirby first.
Its so simple. Just read Kirby and trust him. Same goes for FF, Inhumans and Eternals. New Gods too, for that matter.
Meh. Post-Endgame MCU movies just don't excite me. Call me when the X-Men show up :p
Eye beams!
Celestials on screen!
Such a great time coming up to be a Marvel Cosmic fan.
[QUOTE=Psy-lock;5690632]Meh. Post-Endgame MCU movies just don't excite me. Call me when the X-Men show up :p[/QUOTE]
The current and upcoming MCU looks way more X-citing than the X-Men stuff
[QUOTE=Mik;5690878]The current and upcoming MCU looks way more X-citing than the X-Men stuff[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I like that I'm getting to see more different Marvel characters without the universe revolving a bald dude, his group of child soldiers and his racist ex boyfriend
[QUOTE=Scott Taylor;5690630]That might be it. Gaiman versus Kirby. The Gaiman series was ok, at least in the beginning. I felt that it needed the foundation Kirby provided to even work at all, and perhaps this movie is diving into Gaiman without doing Kirby first.
Its so simple. Just read Kirby and trust him. Same goes for FF, Inhumans and Eternals. New Gods too, for that matter.[/QUOTE]
I suspect we might see a bit of a reverse of the Gaiman take. Grounding them back to Earth was part of the Gaiman arc. Perhaps this will open them up to travel outside of Earth when this is all over?
[QUOTE=Psy-lock;5690632]Meh. Post-Endgame MCU movies just don't excite me. Call me when the X-Men show up :p[/QUOTE]
I do see a lot of this kind of statement but I feel it is time maybe we get a little realistic with X-MEN at Disney because MCU pretty much has a tight nit formula. whatever you see in MCU now is what you will see in X-MEN.
if anyone is thinking MCU X-men is going to do some Johnny Cash and President Kennedy assassination type of trailer to introduce itself. I am afraid that you will never get that call.
I think many xmen fans should start watching as much MCU stuff as they can, so they can get use to it at least. You do also know there were rumours that Eternals were going to set up the mutants? a rumour I will still not rule out, since that is how the MCU formula works.
[QUOTE=WebLurker;5690071]Okay, I'm onboard with this. I'll concede that I'd like to know more about the characters, but it sets up who theses guys are, what their deal is, and why we should care.
Or maybe it's just setting itself up by providing a little context on how the movie fits into the rest of the series.
Or, it's just borrowing a piece of worldbuilding that's floating around, just like how how mega franchises and cinematic universes, from [I]Star Trek[/I], to the DECU (mainstream and Snyderverse configurations) work (not to mention how comics work in general). I get the impression that you're unhappy that it's part of a cinematic universe rather than being completely stand alone, but maybe we should judge it for what it is, not what we want it to be?[/QUOTE]
Star Trek is nothing really like the MCU or DCU. DCU is not even DCU anymore
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I get the impression that you're unhappy that it's part of a cinematic universe rather than being completely stand alone, but maybe we should judge it for what it is, not what we want it to be?
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Not so the case. Eternals is part of the MCU, we already know that, random not funny tie in jokes like Vibranium or Avengers having a new leader does not add anything much.
[font=Palatino Linotype][color=navy][size=3]This trailer had me more enthusiastic about The Eternals. I was never a big fan and wasn't quite looking forward to the film, but now I am.[/size][/color][/font]
[QUOTE=Castle;5690918]I think many xmen fans should start watching as much MCU stuff as they can, so they can get use to it at least. [/QUOTE]
[font=Palatino Linotype][color=navy][size=3]Some of us are capable of enjoying both.[/size][/color][/font]
[QUOTE=Frontier;5690217]They look epic :).
Transmuting a vehicle into rose petals is the most Sersi thing ever.
People have compared Thena to Wonder Woman, so no surprise she gets the bondage scene.[/QUOTE]
Angelina Jolie as a Wonder woman figure in the MCU is something maybe MCU should have considered, if they really truly wanted the same reward and attention without needing to have a Patty Jenkins.
Jolie has a good habit of just stealing every spotlight in all her films. I know she is now in her 40s, but if anyone will ever get a spin off, it has to be her character just for Jolie and Jolie has proven already she can carry a comic film with Wanted (2008)
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[font=Palatino Linotype][color=navy][size=3]Some of us are capable of enjoying both.[/size][/color][/font][/QUOTE]
Some might be capable but most seem to be seething
[QUOTE=Vegeta;5690338]I dunno, still not feeling it. Gunn's "the Suicide Squad" was a huge game changer (for me), and this still feels very "Marvel formulaic." Even Marvel's more inventive TV series (WandaVision and Loki) still devolved into very basic "Marvel" action in the last half of the stories. And giant cgi Celestials aren't enough of a draw to me. (We've already had Transformers, big budget Godzilla movies and whatnot.)[/QUOTE]
Suicide Squad was a huge game changer? How so it wasn't a bad move but it also didn't bring anything new to CBM it was just guns same old stick and to be honest it's gotten kinda old for me
What JKK 'influence'?
Kurt Busiek@KurtBusiek
Looks interesting. Not very Kirby, aside from the awesome looking Celestial, but interesting.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5689952]o essentially the energy from the Snap and the re-snap instigated the whole big thing the Eternals are supposed to deal with and the final Eternals vs Deviants war and them needing to get the band back together.
Look at Dane being our audience surrogate.
How many people are going to be comparing Ikaris to Superman, I wonder? It really seems like he has Heat Vision.
Sersi's transmuation looks awesome :cool:.
First look at the lead Deviant and he looks suitably creepy :eek:.
Afraid Phastos doesn't make everything out of Vibranium, Ikaris.
Sprite looks so done with this ;).[/QUOTE]
Watching both trailers you get the impression that Ikaris in this movie, much like he was in the comics is the most super hero-y of the group.
But it looks like Makkari is the main character of the movie.
The family dynamics of this group are going to be really interesting to see. That's going to be the hook for the audience I imagine.
Could be an interesting spin on things.
I thought it was interesting to notice that Ajax recounted the events of Endgame with a kind of pride at what Earth people could do.
Even if it might have inadvertently caused an apocalypse.
More interesting than the teaser. But I get the feeling I'll enjoy this movie more if it ends up embracing the camp factor like Thor: Ragnarok did and turns it up a notch. Really make that old Kirby aesthetic stand out.
By the way, what happened to that New Gods movie by Ava DuVernay?
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By the way, what happened to that New Gods movie by Ava DuVernay?[/QUOTE]
It's been shelved indefinitely. Supposedly it wasn't standalone enough.
So is Ajak taking over for Zuras? It feels kind of weird that he's nowhere to be found in this movie.
[QUOTE=ed2962;5691114]More interesting than the teaser. But I get the feeling I'll enjoy this movie more if it ends up embracing the camp factor like Thor: Ragnarok did and turns it up a notch. Really make that old Kirby aesthetic stand out.
By the way, what happened to that New Gods movie by Ava DuVernay?[/QUOTE]
I feel like they'd ruin the tone if they go for camp, at least overtly.
[QUOTE=Metro;5690910]Yeah, I like that I'm getting to see more different Marvel characters without the universe revolving a bald dude, his group of child soldiers and his racist ex boyfriend[/QUOTE]
Haha I wouldn't quite describe it like that, because I do like Charles' and Erik's dynamic, but I've seen those characters a lot. This looks more interesting and varietous (is that a word?) in terms of storytelling than "human vs mutant" over again in a world where people like superheroes (of course, that's true about the comics too)
[QUOTE=Castle;5690918]Star Trek is nothing really like the MCU or DCU. DCU is not even DCU anymore[/quote]
Think we're having two different conversations. The point is that cinematic universe-style franchises referencing and using stuff from other installments within itself is not only fair game, it's good writing within the model. (And yeah, [I]Star Trek[/I] is way more self-referential than any other cinematic universe this side of [I]Star Wars[/I]; there are literally whole series that you cannot watch without having watched everything else in the franchise. Even the Kelvin movies, intended to be stand alone reboot, are deeply rooted in the previous franchise installments and heavily assume that you're very familiar with the deep lore of the franchise.)
[QUOTE=Castle;5690918]Not so the case. Eternals is part of the MCU, we already know that, random not funny tie in jokes like Vibranium or Avengers having a new leader does not add anything much.[/QUOTE]
And what's wrong with it not being big and just a little color?
[QUOTE=Conn Seanery;5690923][font=Palatino Linotype][color=navy][size=3]Some of us are capable of enjoying both.[/size][/color][/font][/QUOTE]
Seconded; I love both the old Fox [I]X-Men[/I] series and MCU. Heck, I'm still not really a fan of the Fox series getting canceled for an MCU reboot.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5691169]So is Ajak taking over for Zuras? It feels kind of weird that he's nowhere to be found in this movie.[/QUOTE]
I think it’s more that they’ve just gotten rid of Zuras for the movie. If I’m not mistaken Ajak was the one that could talk to the Celestials in the comics, so (at least for this plot) instead of having a whole new character just to gather the Eternals, they’ve just removed him from the production line completely. Basically I think they’ve cut out the middle man