I really liked Greg Rucka's run on this book and hope to more of the organization in future. Maybe a t.v. series as well.
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I really liked Greg Rucka's run on this book and hope to more of the organization in future. Maybe a t.v. series as well.
Such a good series.
Shame we probably won't see much of it in the future due to Event Leviathan. Didio sees too many intelligence agencies in the DCU as a bad thing, but I think competing agencies offers more potential.
[QUOTE=Pohzee;4577797]Such a good series.
Shame we probably won't see much of it in the future due to Event Leviathan. Didio sees too many intelligence agencies in the DCU as a bad thing, but I think competing agencies offers more potential.[/QUOTE]
If he sees too many agencies as a bad thing (where did he say this?), I think Checkmate can have room to return.
[QUOTE=Agent Z;4577852]If he sees too many agencies as a bad thing (where did he say this?), I think Checkmate can have room to return.[/QUOTE]
Bendis has said that the thing that inspired him to write Event Leviathan was Didio complaining to him about the redundant intelligence agencies in DC comics. So while the fate of all of them after this event is uncertain, all but Leviathan have been collapsed for the time being. Specifically because Didio doesn't want them around it seems.
He says it in about every interview for the event, but here's the first one I think.
[URL="https://www.cbr.com/interview-brian-michael-bendis-event-leviathan-superman/"]https://www.cbr.com/interview-brian-michael-bendis-event-leviathan-superman/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Pohzee;4578016]Bendis has said that the thing that inspired him to write Event Leviathan was Didio complaining to him about the redundant intelligence agencies in DC comics. So while the fate of all of them after this event is uncertain, all but Leviathan have been collapsed for the time being. Specifically because Didio doesn't want them around it seems.
He says it in about every interview for the event, but here's the first one I think.
[URL="https://www.cbr.com/interview-brian-michael-bendis-event-leviathan-superman/"]https://www.cbr.com/interview-brian-michael-bendis-event-leviathan-superman/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Normally I wouldn't defend the guy, but it sounds like Didio's problem wasn't so much the number of agencies but rather that they all seemed to do the same thing or were poorly defined. This is a complaint I've seen among fans too. Also, it seems Bendis was the one who chose to write this story rather than Didio passing it on him.
[QUOTE=Agent Z;4578037]Normally I wouldn't defend the guy, but it sounds like Didio's problem wasn't so much the number of agencies but rather that they all seemed to do the same thing or were poorly defined. This is a complaint I've seen among fans too. Also, it seems Bendis was the one who chose to write this story rather than Didio passing it on him.[/QUOTE]
Given that you also originally had Cry For Justice nuking all the fictional cities in DC Comics (aside from the big ones), this sort of destructive streamlining is absolutely a result of the Didio run DC Comics where the things he doesn't care for get sabotaged or destroyed while creators working on stuff that he cares deeply about feel like treading on eggshells (ex. Outsiders). He is definitely responsible especially if we believe that he was the one bringing Bendis to DC.
There's still no reason why Checkmate can't just be an arm of Leviathan or division within the structure. And I'm sure that eventually one or more of those branches will start acting on their own and we'll eventually get a "Leviathan Civil War" type story where it will split into different groups again anyway.
Rucka's run was so good. Fire being apart of the team was an added bonus.
When I saw this thread, I was like, "I KNOW there's another Checkmate appreciation thread I'm subscribed to..." :)
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?91015-Checkmate!-Appreciated-and-discussed[/url]
[QUOTE=Agent Z;4577784]I really liked Greg Rucka's run on this book and hope to more of the organization in future. Maybe a t.v. series as well.[/QUOTE]
Rucka's run on the title is one of the great spy comics of all time. It was just what I wanted, desperate for that kind of spy-military stuff, with codenames and twisty plotting and characters you adore.
[QUOTE=HandofPrometheus;4579432]Rucka's run was so good. Fire being apart of the team was an added bonus.[/QUOTE]
Rucka's series was actually my first exposure to Fire, and I think she's great as a result. Have difficulty understanding her relationship with Ice, though. ;)
If I were writing a Checkmate book, I'd include a large cast but wouldn't use them all at once. Members I'd include are:
Michael Holt
Sasha Bordeaux
Delilah Tyler (Some may remember her as the second Phantom Lady)
John Diggle
Lyla Michaels (based on the non-powered Arrow version)
Roy Harper
Artemis Crock
Ted Kord
Max Lord
Cynthia Reynolds
Zinda Blake
Volcana (as a stand in for Fire)
But why Max?
[QUOTE=millernumber1;4580219]But why Max?[/QUOTE]
He was part of the organization pre-Flashpoint. I wouldn't make him a villain though.
Anyone else got their ideas for rosters?
[QUOTE=Agent Z;4581611]Anyone else got their ideas for rosters?[/QUOTE]
I'll keep the old members who would most likely not show up anywhere else like Jessica Midnight, Sasha Bordeaux, Mlle. Marie and Tommy Jagger.
New members:
Bronze Tiger
Nightshade
Bumblebee
Gypsy
Miss Martian
Damage (Grant Emerson)
Roy Harper
Dr. Sarah Charles
[QUOTE=HandofPrometheus;4582012]I'll keep the old members who would most likely not show up anywhere else like Jessica Midnight, Sasha Bordeaux, Mlle. Marie and Tommy Jagger.
New members:
Bronze Tiger
Nightshade
Bumblebee
Gypsy
Miss Martian
Damage (Grant Emerson)
Roy Harper
Dr. Sarah Charles[/QUOTE]
Interesting choices. May I ask your reasons (if you had any particular ones) for using Miss Martian, Sarah Charles and Damage?