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So are we assuming this Zucco is completely separate from Sonia?
"Alfred's fortune?" He had a secret fortune stashed away in case anybody ever needed it?
[QUOTE=Badou;5329548]Holy shit, they are already dipping back into the Blockbuster well? How creatively bankrupt is this Nightwing run going to be? This honestly feels like a joke at this point. Just throwing together all the worst elements of Nightwing and retelling the same shit, lol. What an absolute waste.[/QUOTE]
It's all in Taylor's execution.
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[QUOTE=Frontier;5329601]So are we assuming this Zucco is completely separate from Sonia?
"Alfred's fortune?" He had a secret fortune stashed away in case anybody ever needed it?
It's all in Taylor's execution.[/QUOTE]
I didn't notice the Alfred's fortune part. They're still forgetting about Julia, so they possibly forget about Sonia.
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It's all in Taylor's execution.[/QUOTE]
Taylor isn't a Morrison or someone I'd trust to really revamp awful ideas into something unique though.
I'm sorry, but this all sounds awful. You have Bludhaven that is a garbage dump, you have more Zucco drama, bringing back Blockbuster who I can't stand and hate when they try to push him as Nightwing archenemy, and of course there will be Barbara relationship drama probably. All of these are some of the worst elements of Nightwing that everyone seems to complain the most about. I guess they won't complain now because Taylor's name is on it? All you need is some Batman inferiority complex thrown in and it is the complete package of awful Nightwing stories, lol.
Honestly, this feels exactly like Rebirth. Where DC basically forced Seeley to do the exact same stuff even if he didn't want to. He had to set his Nightwing run in Bluudhaven and use Blockbuster. Taylor's run feels so uninspired I really don't know what to make of it.
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[QUOTE=Badou;5329649]Taylor isn't a Morrison or someone I'd trust to really revamp awful ideas into something unique though.
I'm sorry, but this all sounds awful. You have Bludhaven that is a garbage dump, you have more Zucco drama, bringing back Blockbuster who I can't stand and hate when they try to push him as Nightwing archenemy, and of course there will be Barbara relationship drama probably. All of these are some of the worst elements of Nightwing that everyone seems to complain the most about. I guess they won't complain now because Taylor's name is on it? All you need is some Batman inferiority complex thrown in and it is the complete package of awful Nightwing stories, lol.
Honestly, this feels exactly like Rebirth. Where DC basically forced Seeley to do the exact same stuff even if he didn't want to. He had to set his Nightwing run in Bluudhaven and use Blockbuster. Taylor's run feels so uninspired I really don't know what to make of it.[/QUOTE]
Just give it a chance
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[QUOTE=Restingvoice;5329622]I didn't notice the Alfred's fortune part. They're still forgetting about Julia[/QUOTE]
How did they manage to forget her, when she's been used on CW's Batwoman?
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[QUOTE=Digifiend;5329670]How did they manage to forget her, when she's been used on CW's Batwoman?[/QUOTE]
By not watching the CW's terrible television shows?
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[QUOTE=Rac7d*;5329664]Just give it a chance[/QUOTE]
Too much to ask for some, if is not Grayson is trash.
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[QUOTE=Badou;5329548]Holy shit, they are already dipping back into the Blockbuster well? How creatively bankrupt is this Nightwing run going to be? This honestly feels like a joke at this point. Just throwing together all the worst elements of Nightwing and retelling the same shit, lol. What an absolute waste.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I guess Taylor is a good thing considering the positive response he gets; what I know of his writing doesn't indicate this will do it for me though. it seems he's good for providing some panels that provide a "Yas queen!" moment that can be posted on Tumblr, but is otherwise just average.
Fucking Blockbuster being back just indicates this will be more of the same: just average. And Nightwing needs more than average.
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[QUOTE=Badou;5329649]Taylor isn't a Morrison or someone I'd trust to really revamp awful ideas into something unique though.
I'm sorry, but this all sounds awful. You have Bludhaven that is a garbage dump, you have more Zucco drama, bringing back Blockbuster who I can't stand and hate when they try to push him as Nightwing archenemy, and of course there will be Barbara relationship drama probably. All of these are some of the worst elements of Nightwing that everyone seems to complain the most about. I guess they won't complain now because Taylor's name is on it? All you need is some Batman inferiority complex thrown in and it is the complete package of awful Nightwing stories, lol.
Honestly, this feels exactly like Rebirth. Where DC basically forced Seeley to do the exact same stuff even if he didn't want to. He had to set his Nightwing run in Bluudhaven and use Blockbuster. Taylor's run feels so uninspired I really don't know what to make of it.[/QUOTE]
I mean, Taylor's not Morrison, but I feel like it's worth giving his shot a take before completely writing it off.
[QUOTE=SiegePerilous02;5329723]Yeah. I guess Taylor is a good thing considering the positive response he gets; what I know of his writing doesn't indicate this will do it for me though. it seems he's good for providing some panels that provide a "Yas queen!" moment that can be posted on Tumblr, but is otherwise just average.
Fucking Blockbuster being back just indicates this will be more of the same: just average. And Nightwing needs more than average.[/QUOTE]
A competent and fun Nightwing who gets wins in doesn't seem like the worst thing in the world.
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[QUOTE=Badou;5329649]Taylor isn't a Morrison or someone I'd trust to really revamp awful ideas into something unique though.
I'm sorry, but this all sounds awful. You have Bludhaven that is a garbage dump, you have more Zucco drama, bringing back Blockbuster who I can't stand and hate when they try to push him as Nightwing archenemy, and of course there will be Barbara relationship drama probably. All of these are some of the worst elements of Nightwing that everyone seems to complain the most about. I guess they won't complain now because Taylor's name is on it? All you need is some Batman inferiority complex thrown in and it is the complete package of awful Nightwing stories, lol.
Honestly, this feels exactly like Rebirth. Where DC basically forced Seeley to do the exact same stuff even if he didn't want to. He had to set his Nightwing run in Bluudhaven and use Blockbuster. Taylor's run feels so uninspired I really don't know what to make of it.[/QUOTE]
He did revamp Injustice's terrible story into a pretty darn good comic.
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[QUOTE=Drako;5329706]Too much to ask for some, if is not Grayson is trash.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, because I didn't hate Bludhaven and Blockbuster before Grayson, lol.
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Doesn't help that being out of Nightwing has been his best moments in recent years with always going back to Nightwing being a massive downgrade in quality regardless of writer so far.
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I'm on the give Taylor a chance side. It's all in the execution not the concepts or characters used.
Taylor is a crowd pleaser and that can be good, might just be what fans need right now after Ric. I know I need some fluff to make me smile right now.
Taylor might not be Morrison but he is a decent writer.
Blockbuster can be fun.
Dick inheriting Alfred's fortune is a nice touch he should come after julia [but since Julia isn't a thing it seems] it's fine
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[QUOTE=Frontier;5329725]I mean, Taylor's not Morrison, but I feel like it's worth giving his shot a take before completely writing it off.
A competent and fun Nightwing who gets wins in doesn't seem like the worst thing in the world.[/QUOTE]
It's definitely not compared to what we've recently had, but still seems like same old Batman-lite crap that he's been stuck with since the 2000s.
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Future State Nightwing Preview is out: [url]https://twitter.com/wes_greer/status/1350173435419385859[/url]