From the recent issue of Naomi:
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Has this already been established?
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From the recent issue of Naomi:
[IMG]https://abload.de/img/naomi001-013n7kc7.jpg[/IMG]
Has this already been established?
I know pre-New 52 the general outline of his origin was public. To the point where they made a movie about him in universe that incorporated the found and raised by a kind couple aspect.
In Byrne's run, Superman came up with that ham-fisted lie that he and Clark grew up like bros raised by the Kents.
[QUOTE=DochaDocha;4156212]In Byrne's run, Superman came up with that ham-fisted lie that he and Clark grew up like bros raised by the Kents.[/QUOTE]
That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read, I really hope that’s not canon. That takes my suspension of disbelief and just obliterates it. I’m fine with Supes telling people he’s adopted but saying that he grew up in Kansas or NAMING HIS PARENTS is way too far.
[QUOTE=DochaDocha;4156212]In Byrne's run, Superman came up with that ham-fisted lie that he and Clark grew up like bros raised by the Kents.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that was dumb. It also put his parents at risk. If someone wants to go after Superman what's the first thing they're gonna do? Go after the people who raised him! I find it funny that the whole point of the reboot was to get rid of some of the sillier elements of his past and yet they kept the "he was raised on Earth and people who grew up with him are still out there somewhere" part. Even if you don't know who raised him (and they DID!) some super-villain could still hold the entire town hostage. Much as I have my issues with Johns' origin, one of the things he did that I think was kind of clever was the "myth" of the Kansas Superboy. So people have heard of him but nobody can prove he exists. Like Batman. It's not until he moves to Metropolis that people see him for the first time and say "Oh! Maybe there was something to those rumors after all!"
[QUOTE=Vordan;4156224]That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read, I really hope that’s not canon. That takes my suspension of disbelief and just obliterates it. I’m fine with Supes telling people he’s adopted but saying that he grew up in Kansas or NAMING HIS PARENTS is way too far.[/QUOTE]
I think that was an explanation Jonathan Kent rattled off to Lois after she saw Lana and Superman talking like old friends. Not that this makes it much better, but it was never a public explanation.
[QUOTE=Jon Clark;4156687]I think that was an explanation Jonathan Kent rattled off to Lois after she saw Lana and Superman talking like old friends. Not that this makes it much better, but it was never a public explanation.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, that was the single dumbest thing in the entire post-Crisis era, and it was never really mentioned again after that, thank Rao, so even though it was never officially retconned to the best of my knowledge, I'd hesitate to call it canonical at any point, if we take the canon to be "things the writers keep in the back of their minds as parts of the characters' histories that inform their behavior or mental state."
As for in-general, I'd say my "ideal" Superman isn't widely known to be adopted. I remember in [i]Lois & Clark[/i] there's an early episode where Luthor discovers, as the silver lining to one of his plans going bust, that Superman was raised on Earth, and not on his homeworld as most people assume. I really like that idea, that most people just assume he's new to Earth, even though he's not.
Yeah my own preference is that people think he was raised in the Fortress of Solitude by his robots and that he just comes down from the North Pole to do good deeds. Like Santa Claus in red and blue tights. But I am ok with him saying that he grew up in America and identifies as an American as well.
I believe that he revealed that he grew up on Earth during his first interview with Lois.
[QUOTE=Jon Clark;4156687]I think that was an explanation Jonathan Kent rattled off to Lois after she saw Lana and Superman talking like old friends. Not that this makes it much better, but it was never a public explanation.[/QUOTE]
I think at one point Lois mentioned it to Perry. Though how far it got beyond that, I don't know. So Perry knows that Superman was raised with Clark? Being the old school newspaperman he is, there's no way he wouldn't put two and two together.
It's funny you say that, because she tells Perry in Earth Stealers where that's exactly how Superman describes him, too. But Lois and Perry quickly table the conversation about Clark and Superman, Lois buries the hatchet, and then not long after Superman was confirmed out in space while Clark was in Metropolis. Chronologically the best you can give them is wondering for a few months.
[QUOTE=dreyga2000;4157052]I believe that he revealed that he grew up on Earth during his first interview with Lois.[/QUOTE]
I can only see it coming out, if at all, in an article by Lois.
The therapist may be talking generally as well. In that it's known he's an alien yet he's accepted by the people of Earth. She doesn't necessarily mean he was adopted and raised in the US.
[QUOTE=Kuwagaton;4157522]It's funny you say that, because she tells Perry in Earth Stealers where that's exactly how Superman describes him, too. But Lois and Perry quickly table the conversation about Clark and Superman, Lois buries the hatchet, and then not long after Superman was confirmed out in space while Clark was in Metropolis. Chronologically the best you can give them is wondering for a few months.[/QUOTE]
I have that book! I'll have to go back and re-read that!
[QUOTE=Kuwagaton;4157522]It's funny you say that, because she tells Perry in Earth Stealers where that's exactly how Superman describes him, too. But Lois and Perry quickly table the conversation about Clark and Superman, Lois buries the hatchet, and then not long after Superman was confirmed out in space while Clark was in Metropolis. Chronologically the best you can give them is wondering for a few months.[/QUOTE]
I think it's also mentioned in the "Newstime" magazine that came out around Superman's death. It even has a picture of Superman and Clark Kent together (from just outside Clark's apartment, iirc).