The series will of course feature the team from Clone Wars but will take place after the Clone Wars, presumably during the early Empire era, with the Clones becoming a mercenary squad.
Printable View
The series will of course feature the team from Clone Wars but will take place after the Clone Wars, presumably during the early Empire era, with the Clones becoming a mercenary squad.
I was wondering about what happened to the Bad Batch after Order 66.
[QUOTE=ChrisIII;5047449]The series will of course feature the team from Clone Wars but will take place after the Clone Wars, presumably during the early Empire era, with the Clones becoming a mercenary squad.[/QUOTE]
Wow, they are [B][I]reallyyyyy[/I][/B] trying to stay away from the sequel trilogy aren't they?
I enjoyed them in Clone Wars, and it would be cool to see more of the Clone Trooper/Storm Trooper transition, so I'll watch it. But what does a guy have to do to get some pre-Phantom Menace expansion?
There was the Resistance series that ended shortly before Rise of Skywalker, and Mandalorian is set after ROTJ and might tie into some plot threads (There's rumors of Chewbacca & Luke appearences, for example, and given the show's use of the Empire possibly some First Order stuff will eventually wind up there).
They kind of seem to be bouncing on several different eras, especially since they've got more creative freedom to fill up what's between ROTJ and TFA (In which not much happened to the main characters until Ben went bad, but other things were definetly going on).
[QUOTE=Noodle;5047846]I enjoyed them in Clone Wars, and it would be cool to see more of the Clone Trooper/Storm Trooper transition, so I'll watch it. But what does a guy have to do to get some pre-Phantom Menace expansion?[/QUOTE]
Well, there is that new line of books coming out. I think it's called The High Republic.
[QUOTE=Anthony W;5047743]Wow, they are [B][I]reallyyyyy[/I][/B] trying to stay away from the sequel trilogy aren't they?[/QUOTE]
There was supposed to be a follow-up with the team on Kashyyyk, parts of it did have some early animation done. So a series surrounding this makes sense to do a follow up to since it's a small cast and the heavy lifting for story direction has been done already. This is a lot easier to green light than something in the sequels.
Considering they seemed to get along well, I'm curious if this series will touch on what happened to Cody.
[QUOTE=Anthony W;5047955]Well, there is that new line of books coming out. I think it's called The High Republic.[/QUOTE]
Meh. I have nothing against reading (being an avid reader myself) but reading a lightsaber battle isn't as fun as seeing one in motion.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5048078]Considering they seemed to get along well, I'm curious if this series will touch on what happened to Cody.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Obi-Wan didn't kill him (Although I've read this was considered in early versions of the story). There was also an abandoned Rebels concept where Thrawn would bring in Cody to face off against Rex and his fellow clones.
The Bad Batch is going to be the Mission Impossible of Star Wars
[QUOTE=ChrisIII;5050298]Yeah, Obi-Wan didn't kill him (Although I've read this was considered in early versions of the story). There was also an abandoned Rebels concept where Thrawn would bring in Cody to face off against Rex and his fellow clones.[/QUOTE]
Ah man, that would have been great.
I really hope they will tie the Bad Batch with SCAR squadron somehow. Kreel's squad is Task Force 99, so there must be a link.
[QUOTE=FRC Coazze;5056909]I really hope they will tie the Bad Batch with SCAR squadron somehow. Kreel's squad is Task Force 99, so there must be a link.[/QUOTE]
That's my hope as well, with the focus supposedly on the transition between being clone commandos to storm troopers and their dirty dozen like similarities it really makes sense.
[QUOTE=ChrisIII;5047449]The series will of course feature the team from Clone Wars but will take place after the Clone Wars, presumably during the early Empire era, with the Clones becoming a mercenary squad.[/QUOTE]
Is it one voice actor for all?
i.e.- Dee Bradley
[QUOTE=Tofali;5050767]The Bad Batch is going to be the [B]Mission Impossible of Star Wars[/B][/QUOTE]
Seems completley the wrong franchise analogue, Mission Impossible is more slick espionage type.
These guys are more the gritty straight drop em' in to the fray, boots on the ground grunts:
Meant to be more the [B]Dirty[/B] (half)[B]Dozen[/B] of Star Wars:
[QUOTE]Behind the scenes:
George Lucas had a very specific vision of the Bad Batch, in that he wanted a version of the The Dirty Dozen with clones. Dave Filoni sketched their appearances which Brent Friedman and Matt Michnovetz used to imagine the Bad Batch's voices and personalities.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]https://www.thedailyworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/9141943_web1_dirty-dozen-poster-feature.jpg[/IMG]
With a few elements of Predator: Dutch's Elite Commandos thrown in (esp Billy Sole).
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzJXFK3X0AAuRaP.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://64.media.tumblr.com/5a2c06fb393072066ad190d83a058421/tumblr_oz7w3jR3XH1whzmt5o1_640.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Güicho;5063849]Is it one voice actor for all?[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't make any sense for Dee Bradley Baker to stop voicing the Clones.
[QUOTE=Güicho;5063853]Seems completley the wrong franchise analogue, Mission Impossible is more slick espionage type.
These guys are more the gritty straight drop em' in to the fray, boots on the ground grunts:
Meant to be more the [B]Dirty[/B] (half)[B]Dozen[/B] of Star Wars:
[IMG]https://www.thedailyworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/9141943_web1_dirty-dozen-poster-feature.jpg[/IMG]
With a few elements of Predator: Dutch's Elite Commandos thrown in (esp Billy Sole).
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzJXFK3X0AAuRaP.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
The slickness and espionage barely registers with me when i watch MI that's a James Bond thing -- i only watch Mission Impossible for the mission than the ridiculous espionage that they try to attempt and fail miserably every single time:D
[QUOTE=Anthony W;5047743]Wow, they are [B][I]reallyyyyy[/I][/B] trying to stay away from the sequel trilogy aren't they?[/QUOTE]
Hey, Anthony, what did you think about the new show on Disney+, the Mandalorian? Did you like it better than the movies or the sequel trilogy?
[QUOTE=ChrisIII;5047449]The series will of course feature the team from Clone Wars but will take place after the Clone Wars, presumably during the early Empire era, with the Clones becoming a mercenary squad.[/QUOTE]
Hey, Chris, by any chance do you know if the upcoming star wars movies and series are going to be related or in the same universe as the last Star Wars Fsllen Order video game?
Noodle, are you talking about the Knights of the Old Republic stories. I thought after the last film, they were going to start working on expanding on that. Do you have any idea about that as well?
I might be interested and look forward to that. I think they had some of the greatest video games based on those stories. If only they had the graphics of today's modern games.
[QUOTE=Tofali;5050767]The Bad Batch is going to be the Mission Impossible of Star Wars[/QUOTE]
sorry, could you please elaborate a little bit about how it will be like Mission Impossible? I'd like to know
[QUOTE=Ash2020;5065759]sorry, could you please elaborate a little bit about how it will be like Mission Impossible? I'd like to know[/QUOTE]
wasn't that the whole point of retrieving Echo by going on impossible missions?
[QUOTE=Tofali;5065833]wasn't that the whole point of retrieving Echo by going on impossible missions?[/QUOTE]
oh sorry, are you talking about the old show from the 60s, I'm not familiar with it, I thought you were talking about the film series with Tom Cruise
I feel meh about this announcement. I think I have Clone Wars Era burnout. I'd much rather see another series like the Mandalorian about an original team set during or just after the Imperial period, or even one set during the time of the sequel trilogy. Sorry, but I've grown weary of Jango Fett clones.
[QUOTE=Celgress;5066168]I feel meh about this announcement. I think I have Clone Wars Era burnout. I'd much rather see another series like the Mandalorian about an original team set during or just after the Imperial period, or even one set during the time of the sequel trilogy. Sorry, but I've grown weary of Jango Fett clones.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't Star Wars Resistance around the same time period as the Sequel trilogy? Did you like it?
[QUOTE=Tofali;5066345]Wasn't Star Wars Resistance around the same time period as the Sequel trilogy? Did you like it?[/QUOTE]
It was and I did. :cool: Too bad it was only was given two seasons. :mad:
[QUOTE=Ash2020;5065701]Hey, Chris, by any chance do you know if the upcoming star wars movies and series are going to be related or in the same universe as the last Star Wars Fsllen Order video game?[/QUOTE]
They should be in the same unified Disney canon. For instance Fallen Order used a lot of elements from Rebels, the Darth Vader comics and Rogue One, which were all between the PT and OT.
Dirty Dozen I think were more like Suicide Squad-kind of a group of soldiers that would've been executed or imprisoned otherwise. Bad Batch is a bit different I think.
I think they Bad Batch also a a bit like Doctor Who's Cult of Skaro-genetically somewhat different from the other Daleks so they could think outside the box.
I wonder if they were susceptible to Order 66 at all. Could they stumble onto a Jedi during one of their missions?
[QUOTE=Frontier;5067595]I wonder if they were susceptible to Order 66 at all. Could they stumble onto a Jedi during one of their missions?[/QUOTE]
I think it all depends on them encountering a Jedi during it. The Purge troopers while still comprised of clones didn't react to Order 66 until the Jedi mindtricked them into doing so. While they did have orders, there's nothing causing them to go violent on sight so much as outside the initial order. Otherwise it seems the clones will just follow orders.
Up to now i don't even know how Order 66 works? How was it even triggered? Was it it a switch that was flipped or was it voice activated?
[QUOTE=Tofali;5068317]Up to now i don't even know how Order 66 works? How was it even triggered? Was it it a switch that was flipped or was it voice activated?[/QUOTE]
I think the basics of it was there was a chip designed to re-program the Clones into killing the Jedi under order of Darth Sidius. It completely re-wrote their mind to make them think the Jedi were enemies of the Republic so they could kill them in cold-blood.
Order 66 works in that the chip compels the clone to fire on the nearest Jedi. In the case of Tup's malfunction which caused the order to activate prematurely it caused him to fire on the nearest Jedi. Tup was 501st and targeted one of Commander Doom's General's rather than Anakin so it seems it's more of a blanket order with the first Jedi they see rather than they're supposed to kill anybody specific.
Since Jedi Generals are probably going to be near the commanders it makes sense to send the order to them as well as have them inform the other clones what the new orders are. As noted with Ahsoka, Rex actually had to sit down and explain things to his men (and the audience) so the clones in ear-shot of the order will comply and everybody else follows the chain of command. The effects of the chip wear off after an indeterminate amount of time as while later clones did fire on Darth Vader, it's more that they mistook him for Jedi rather than the chip kicking in. We also see that Purge troopers while still clones do possess the chip and while they're ordered to kill the Jedi the chip itself isn't active until the Jedi used the force to compel them to fire on the Inquisitors.
The chip overwrites them to comply with the order. There is no explanation how and why Rex resisted. The clones personas will return but it seems they just went with orders anyways. The order seems to be required to have been given verbally and can be activated from Palpatine or a mindtrick.
[QUOTE=SuperiorIronman;5068380]Order 66 works in that the chip compels the clone to fire on the nearest Jedi. In the case of Tup's malfunction which caused the order to activate prematurely it caused him to fire on the nearest Jedi. Tup was 501st and targeted one of Commander Doom's General's rather than Anakin so it seems it's more of a blanket order with the first Jedi they see rather than they're supposed to kill anybody specific.[/QUOTE]
I subscribe to the fan theory that Anakin was deliberately coded in as being exempt from Order 66 because Sidius needed him so the Clones wouldn't knowingly attack him.
I think the only Jedi Sidius deliberately targeted were Obi-Wan and [I]maybe [/I]Ahsoka when he sent out the Order 66 call.
[QUOTE]The chip overwrites them to comply with the order. There is no explanation how and why Rex resisted. The clones personas will return but it seems they just went with orders anyways. The order seems to be required to have been given verbally and can be activated from Palpatine or a mindtrick.[/QUOTE]
I think Rex was able to resist because he knew about the chip and used every little bit of willpower he had to resist it enough to warn Ahsoka, but it didn't make him immune so they still had to have it removed.
[QUOTE=SuperiorIronman;5068380]Order 66 works in that the chip compels the clone to fire on the nearest Jedi. In the case of Tup's malfunction which caused the order to activate prematurely it caused him to fire on the nearest Jedi. Tup was 501st and targeted one of Commander Doom's General's rather than Anakin so it seems it's more of a blanket order with the first Jedi they see rather than they're supposed to kill anybody specific.
Since Jedi Generals are probably going to be near the commanders it makes sense to send the order to them as well as have them inform the other clones what the new orders are. As noted with Ahsoka, Rex actually had to sit down and explain things to his men (and the audience) so the clones in ear-shot of the order will comply and everybody else follows the chain of command. The effects of the chip wear off after an indeterminate amount of time as while later clones did fire on Darth Vader, it's more that they mistook him for Jedi rather than the chip kicking in. We also see that Purge troopers while still clones do possess the chip and while they're ordered to kill the Jedi the chip itself isn't active until the Jedi used the force to compel them to fire on the Inquisitors.
The chip overwrites them to comply with the order. There is no explanation how and why Rex resisted. The clones personas will return but it seems they just went with orders anyways. The order seems to be required to have been given verbally and can be activated from Palpatine or a mindtrick.[/QUOTE]
Yeah i didn't like Rex resisting because it kind of confused me how all this works now prior to CW season 7 i was just under the assumption that since all clones had chips embedded in their brains since infancy an order from Sidious or a button pressed to activate the chip was what triggered the Jedi massacre.
[QUOTE=Tofali;5068530]Yeah i didn't like Rex resisting because it kind of confused me how all this works now prior to CW season 7 i was just under the assumption that since all clones had chips embedded in their brains since infancy an order from Sidious or a button pressed to activate the chip was what triggered the Jedi massacre.[/QUOTE]
To be fair he was only able to resist for about five seconds before going on to try and kill Ahsoka as coldly and efficiently as possible.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5068528]I subscribe to the fan theory that Anakin was deliberately coded in as being exempt from Order 66 because Sidius needed him so the Clones wouldn't knowingly attack him.
I think the only Jedi Sidius deliberately targeted were Obi-Wan and [I]maybe [/I]Ahsoka when he sent out the Order 66 call.
I think Rex was able to resist because he knew about the chip and used every little bit of willpower he had to resist it enough to warn Ahsoka, but it didn't make him immune so they still had to have it removed.[/QUOTE]
The order being not to include Anakin would make a good deal of sense. I mean what was Sidious going to do had Anakin not been burnt as badly as he was? Palpatine even admits he wasn't intending for Anakin to end up the way he did. Though Anakin in that scene is also by himself once the order goes down. Anakin is only with the clones again once he's rescued from Mustafar and that's long after the order was received and he's disfigured with no lightsaber. So Palpatine was either going to exonerate Anakin once this was over or he'd be in a version of the Vader suit that wasn't life-support for public appearances.
[QUOTE=SuperiorIronman;5068595]The order being not to include Anakin would make a good deal of sense. I mean what was Sidious going to do had Anakin not been burnt as badly as he was? Palpatine even admits he wasn't intending for Anakin to end up the way he did. Though Anakin in that scene is also by himself once the order goes down. Anakin is only with the clones again once he's rescued from Mustafar and that's long after the order was received and he's disfigured with no lightsaber. So Palpatine was either going to exonerate Anakin once this was over or he'd be in a version of the Vader suit that wasn't life-support for public appearances.[/QUOTE]
Didn't Anakin lead the Clones to purge the Jedi on Coruscant right after he became Darth Vader and pre-burning? Like, the younglings ask him what they're supposed to do about the Clones and Anakin is basically there to help kill them all...
There's actually a Darth Vader comic in which a Jedi uses the Order 66 against the Inquisitors, some of whom are former Jedi but who happen to have some clones among their stormtrooper group.