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[QUOTE=adkal;4286913]I suppose that could explain why [spoil]Lois was the way she was[/spoil][/QUOTE]
I was curious about that [spoil] The way she said she "destroyed" all the Supermen and how she doesn't seem evil so much as beaten down in that reveal makes me think she isn't exactly evil. No one left should be evil if the World Forger is telling some sort of truth. I wonder if this job as the jailer of Apokalyps, along with Jon still being active with Damian, makes me think it's some kind of self imposed punishment because she blames herself for Superman not going along with the plans. I'm thinking she also might end up being the new ally the solicits have teased, though I suppose it's possible that it's a villain.
I wonder if there is going to be some element of Civil War II-esq they imprisoned people who didn't do anything and may not have been going to go bad. Like the method they devised (I'm thinking likely set up by Batman) to determine who would side with them had some false positives, maybe even Lois herself, and that is one of the reasons Superman wouldn't go along with the plan and he ends up in the pocket universe? We know Batman apparently sides with the World Forger eventually.[/spoil]
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[QUOTE=Yoda;4287142]I was curious about that [spoil] The way she said she "destroyed" all the Supermen and how she doesn't seem evil so much as beaten down in that reveal makes me think she isn't exactly evil. No one left should be evil if the World Forger is telling some sort of truth. I wonder if this job as the jailer of Apokalyps, along with Jon still being active with Damian, makes me think it's some kind of self imposed punishment because she blames herself for Superman not going along with the plans. I'm thinking she also might end up being the new ally the solicits have teased, though I suppose it's possible that it's a villain.
I wonder if there is going to be some element of Civil War II-esq they imprisoned people who didn't do anything and may not have been going to go bad. Like the method they devised (I'm thinking likely set up by Batman) to determine who would side with them had some false positives, maybe even Lois herself, and that is one of the reasons Superman wouldn't go along with the plan and he ends up in the pocket universe? We know Batman apparently sides with the World Forger eventually.[/spoil][/QUOTE]
I realized
[spoil] I don't he's the real World Forger. The original World Forger died. He was killed by Barbotas.
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I think he might be a new version. To me, he kinda resembles Martian Manhunter. Plus the World Forger has telepathy like the Martian does. [/spoil]
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[QUOTE=MeGrimlock420;4287291]I realized
[spoil] I don't he's the real World Forger. The original World Forger died. He was killed by Barbotas.
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I think he might be a new version. To me, he kinda resembles Martian Manhunter. Plus the World Forger has telepathy like the Martian does. [/spoil][/QUOTE]
Another hint [spoil] how the universes were created out of "the hopes and fears of all living beings." And Batman in particular says they have to give up hope in order to survive. They may be back in the Dark Multiverse again. Also noticed Batman wasn't teleported to the prison planet with the rest of the team. It's just Flash, GL, Hawkgirl, Manhunter, Wonder Woman, and the fake kid. [/spoil]
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[QUOTE=Yoda;4287353]Another hint [spoil] how the universes were created out of "the hopes and fears of all living beings." And Batman in particular says they have to give up hope in order to survive. They may be back in the Dark Multiverse again. Also noticed Batman wasn't teleported to the prison planet with the rest of the team. It's just Flash, GL, Hawkgirl, Manhunter, Wonder Woman, and the fake kid. [/spoil][/QUOTE]
And another hint
[spoil] Batman Who Laughs is the one who told Lex to get the Totality. BWL could still be trying to bring the dark multiverse to the main universe.[/spoil]
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[QUOTE=MeGrimlock420;4287291]I realized
[spoil] I don't he's the real World Forger. The original World Forger died. He was killed by Barbotas.
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I think he might be a new version. To me, he kinda resembles Martian Manhunter. Plus the World Forger has telepathy like the Martian does. [/spoil][/QUOTE]
[spoil] World forger will resurrection in 6thdimension like AM and monitor,And though he maybe appearance not exactly same before.But you see,AM neither(Hell,he at least have 3 different appearances)
Here,specifically said world forger re-formed after JL battle dark mulitverse
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I'd say the only anoying part of this is Snyder already confirmed a Metal 2 is coming with more alternate batman, so we already know nothing too bad will happen to the multiverse.
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I don't want to allow myself to hope, but how freaking cool it would be if Morrison's Superman who was revealed in Sideways eventually gets a role in all of this. Earth-0 Superman and the League duped by a fake Superman, but later helped by a real one.
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[QUOTE=DragonPiece;4288493]I'd say the only anoying part of this is Snyder already confirmed a Metal 2 is coming with more alternate batman, so we already know nothing too bad will happen to the multiverse.[/QUOTE]
Did he confirm it? Last I heard he [I]wanted[/I] to do it but only if Capullo would draw it, and people liked his JL enough that he felt confident doing another event.
[QUOTE=Sacred Knight;4288950]I don't want to allow myself to hope, but how freaking cool it would be if Morrison's Superman who was revealed in Sideways eventually gets a role in all of this. Earth-0 Superman and the League duped by a fake Superman, but later helped by a real one.[/QUOTE]
Well Snyder [B]is[/B] a Morrison fanboy so if anyone would use him he would, but I don’t think he’ll show up in this arc.
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just bumping this thread because JL 25 was amazing and a had a lot of amazing Superman moments
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[spoil]Sundipped Supes one-shot World Forger and recruiting him
I know this sounds like joking, But it is true[/spoil]
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[SPOIL]Plus the end shows Justice Incarnate and Justice Legion Alpha will be showing up from among other help across the multiverse, so that's at least two more Supermen in play; I wouldn't even be surprised if Sacred Knight was right that t-shirt Superman might get involved.[/SPOIL]
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Is Superman who destroyed World Forger's fake multiverse, mass murder who killed more people than every villain in DC?
Off course,I don't think so and treated people who said it as troll though, Suprisingly,They seem to be serious
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[QUOTE=catman;4395241]Is Superman who destroyed World Forger's fake multiverse, mass murder who killed more people than every villain in DC?
Off course,I don't think so and treated people who said it as troll though, Suprisingly,They seem to be serious[/QUOTE]
I think this case just like all other alternative timeline stories, Those people maybe look like real but they are not real, So Supes doesn't kill anyone technically
Besides, Writer certainly not meant to say Superman is a murderer, So anyone who takes it serious must be not understanding how fictions work
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[QUOTE=qwertyuiop1998;4395606]I think this case just like all other alternative timeline stories, Those people maybe look like real but they are not real, So Supes doesn't kill anyone technically
Besides, Writer certainly not meant to say Superman is a murderer, So anyone who takes it serious must be not understanding how fictions works[/QUOTE]
Thank you.I agree with you.
Considering the statement by Forger, New multiverse seemed to be still only possibility and unreal because new multiverse stil didn't replace former multiverse and get essence of multiverse.
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That whole "world" was basically an imaginary construct, not a real alternate reality. Forger said essentially that the "people" in it were soulless until it took the place of the DCU. It was essentially a simulation he had run to see what could beat Doom. For example, the "Lois" that was running the prison was a version of her that'd been around through thousands of the simulations where Jon had been killed. So there was a regular "Lois" construct somewhere in there with a version of Jon.