I can't see shit :mad:
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[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4609042]I saw "Final Night" under Zero Hour, Generation 3 Year 6. Can't tell if "Spectre" is nearby or not.[/QUOTE]
One of the problems I've had with DC's history lists is that they're most often too abstract.
Like "X [I]did [/I]happened, but don't read the trade paperback because 90% of what's in there [I]didn't[/I] happen."
It's like saying Dark Phoenix Saga happened, but the X-Men were the original five and Wolverine, so don't bother reading that story now.
Hopefully, DC is making this timeline in a way that readers can go back and read those stories in trades with the least amount of mental gymnastics to figure out what parts are still canon.
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4609042]I saw "Final Night" under Zero Hour, Generation 3 Year 6. Can't tell if "Spectre" is nearby or not.[/QUOTE]
Cool. I liked Final Night. Glad that's there. I'm guessing if Spectre is mentioned nearby it might be in 'Day of Judgment' if that's on there somewhere.
[QUOTE=Lee Stone;4608824]They'll probably say that Zero Point and/or Flashpoint de-aged everyone some.[/QUOTE]
Events de-ageing characters is in my opinion a must in a media that lasts as long as comics does, without ever replacing characters. From time to time, some event might make a character die and come back without ageing, or come back younger. The Flashpoint should definitely have de-age-ing of heroes as a side-effect, IMO.
The timeline is less important just knowing what stories are official canon is what I'm interested in.
[QUOTE=Jokerz79;4609193]The timeline is less important just knowing what stories are official canon is what I'm interested in.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be shocked if they just went by which ones were most critically acclaimed and sold a lot.
So to summarize, present heroes that exist in Gen 1 alongside JSA are
Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor, adults.
Clark, from a baby to most likely, Superboy.
Bruce, a child at the tail end of the JSA era.
Arthur Curry whose story, from when his dad died to meeting his supporting cast, began after superheroes are banned. Don't know how old he is.
Zatanna is ageless now?
I imagine that when the JSA were investigated by the government (in the early 1950s), if that happened in this timeline, then Johnny Thunder made them all disappear--but possibly by accident, given that Johnny was a bit stupid about his magic thunderbolt. He could have said, "Say you guys, let's all forget this ever happened." And nobody remembered the JSA after that.
We have a barely legible timeline.Whether this is a good or bad thing remains to be seen.How does any of this affect the comics going forward? Possible reboot? Though based on the timeline its going to age a lot of characters.
It's okay that this makes zero sense right? Like none of this makes sense on any level. I get some of the idea they're aiming for like this is how the time line plays out then boom reboot then this is how the timeline plays out boom reboot etc etc. But this honestly reads like they've taken something that's kinda confusing and made it much worse.
Unless it's a full reboot, it's never going to 100% make sense. But it's comic books. So let everything happen.
There's got to be more to this, because those years don't make sense. There's no way Barry Allen could have been Flash for 34 years, he's not a man in his 50s/60s. We just had Flash Year One, which depicted the currently 14 year old Wallace West as a toddler.
The "5 year compression" is mentioned in Generation 4, but that doesn't really clarify anything.
A meta-timeline that incorporates all the timeline changes and compressions is somewhat interesting, but far less useful than a timeline of how continuity currently stands. What would the timeline events be as seen through the eyes of an average citizen of Metropolis?
[QUOTE=Lee;4609365]There's got to be more to this, because those years don't make sense. There's no way Barry Allen could have been Flash for 34 years, he's not a man in his 50s/60s. We just had Flash Year One, which depicted the currently 14 year old Wallace West as a toddler.
The "5 year compression" is mentioned in Generation 4, but that doesn't really clarify anything.
A meta-timeline that incorporates all the timeline changes and compressions is somewhat interesting, but far less useful than a timeline of how continuity currently stands. What would the timeline events be as seen through the eyes of an average citizen of Metropolis?[/QUOTE]
Average citizen of Metropolis: "I know you might think I was born yesterday... and you may be right."
[QUOTE=starduck;4609308]Zatanna is ageless now?[/QUOTE]
Wasn't she always?