[B]Detective Comics #968[/B]
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[B]Detective Comics #968[/B]
Source: [url]http://www.multiversitycomics.com/previews/detective-comics-968/[/url]
It's almost hard to tell Bruce and Tim apart...
I still don't think the Robins needed to be here.
I guess Tim's line about Damian doing something to Jon in the future will be developed in the upcoming [I]Teen Titans/Super Sons/Superman[/I] crossover.
"Sorry Tim, I don't believe in Santa Claus" Oh Jason :p.
Spoiler is not here yet.. :(
Without her existence, this attacks against Damian will put Tim in my black List, or Tynion, I hope not see him many times in things related with Damian.
Poor Damian, now is responsible too for Supersons of Tomorrow events too.. [B]Future Damian will do something and[/B].. DISASTER.. Damian Wayne in [B]Detective Comics[/B] or in [B]Batman[/B] now, never is for good..
Poor Jason.. Despite the Lazarus pit, there are Joker wounds.
Huh, they are seeting the seeds for the croosover already.
"Killed on sight" Oh here comes batfam simultaneously snapping. Or should.
This is actually starting to become painful...
I really don't know if I want to read this... It might explain more of the crossover but I am so sick of dark futures also how does this make sense future Tim when he cut his arm said the future can be changed that it is not set in stone but he acting like it is with his comment to Damian, also why not just tell everyone what happens so they can prevent it instead? Just UGH........
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[QUOTE]but he acting like it is with his comment to Damian[/QUOTE]
I think that he was just trying to upset him and distract him to punch him easily.
Or he is just being petty.
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thanks for this.
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that it is not set in stone but he acting like it is with his comment to Damian, also why not just tell everyone what happens so they can prevent it instead? Just UGH........[/QUOTE]
A lot of time waiting for this but...I think that I will be out in this chapter... If Spoiler is not revelant(reviews), I am out this time.. I am not here for see one Tomorrow Tim chapter, for Damian haters, I have enough WITH 2 in TT..
As I said in the past... I will not see the SS Tomorrow saga but, I will be in the last chapters for see him failing..
Tynion might actually prove more harmful to Tim than someone like Lobdell. At least that Tim was fake Tynion is making real Tim so unlikable.
I've also had enough of these bad futures according to Batman Beyond Damian was a great Batman and Jon seemed to be a good Superman not this rubbish.
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Oh lord, don't tell me he hacks the Batmobiles...
[QUOTE=CPSparkles;3214856]Tynion might actually prove more harmful to Tim than someone like Lobdell. At least that Tim was fake Tynion is making real Tim so unlikable.
I've also had enough of these bad futures according to Batman Beyond Damian was a great Batman and Jon seemed to be a good Superman not this rubbish.[/QUOTE]
This future Tim now seems to come from a future no longer connected to the current time, as shown when present Tim had no idea who Connor was.
[QUOTE=Frontier;3214863]Oh lord, don't tell me he hacks the Batmobiles...[/QUOTE]
Couldn't Brother Eye be doing that?
[QUOTE=adrikito;3214793]Spoiler is not here yet.. :(
Without her existence, this attacks against Damian will put Tim in my black List, or Tynion, I hope not see him many times in things related with Damian.
Poor Damian, now is responsible too for Supersons of Tomorrow events too.. [B]Future Damian will do something and[/B].. DISASTER.. Damian Wayne in [B]Detective Comics[/B] or in [B]Batman[/B] now, never is for good..
Poor Jason.. Despite the Lazarus pit, there are Joker wounds.[/QUOTE]
I figured Damian had something to with what happened to Jon in the future. While Damian being bad in the future is getting kinda old, a storyline where he learns in multiple futures he goes bad could be an interesting story. Him dealing with this info and how he reacts to it.
I bet Tim-god hacks everything. I bet he hacks the Watchtower and Fortress of Solitude. I bet he hacks Doctor Fate's helmet too. Then he hacks collective consciousness on the humanity. For good measure he hacks speed force too. And because all those wasn't challenging enough he hacks Docor Manhattan's brain for lulz on the side.
Gods. Will Tim's character ever recover from all this bullshit Tynion piled on him. I mean, at least other Robins are cameo's so it's easier to discard their already pointless involment here. But Tim is the centerpiece of this arc and ugggggh he'll never live it down in fandom.
[QUOTE=Jackalope89;3214879]This future Tim now seems to come from a future no longer connected to the current time, as shown when present Tim had no idea who Connor was.[/QUOTE]
Never considered that but still irritated by this story.
Alright someone stop me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the pit have healed all or most of Jason's injuries? I mean it brought him back from the dead and would have to heal his injuries to do that? Am I crazy?
[QUOTE=Alycat;3214894]Alright someone stop me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the pit have healed all or most of Jason's injuries? I mean it brought him back from the dead and would have to heal his injuries to do that? Am I crazy?[/QUOTE]
Tynion logic. Pits even brought back some thoroughly decomposed corpses before tho it's not recommended. I doubt writer cares about much else over his fanboy glasses rn.
[QUOTE=Alycat;3214894]Alright someone stop me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the pit have healed all or most of Jason's injuries? I mean it brought him back from the dead and would have to heal his injuries to do that? Am I crazy?[/QUOTE]
No you are not crazy I literally just had the same thought the Lazarus Pit brings you back from death but did not heal a Bone Spur? My biggest criticism of Tynion is often that I think he is really lazy with his writing at times. Just have Tim fight Jason why make up the Bone Spur thing?
[QUOTE=blitzwolf215;3214882]I figured Damian had something to with what happened to Jon in the future. While Damian being bad in the future is getting kinda old, a storyline where he learns in multiple futures he goes bad could be an interesting story. Him dealing with this info and how he reacts to it.[/QUOTE]
Damian shouldn't have anything to do with Jon. Damian isn't evil. He was conditioned and misguided but never bad. now he is a hero it seems that DC writers subscribe to the one drop rule. It's such lazy writing.
[QUOTE=Frontier;3214790]It's almost hard to tell Bruce and Tim apart...
I still don't think the Robins needed to be here.
I guess Tim's line about Damian doing something to Jon in the future will be developed in the upcoming [I]Teen Titans/Super Sons/Superman[/I] crossover.
"Sorry Tim, I don't believe in Santa Claus" Oh Jason :p.[/QUOTE]
Ok, there are some new clues here.....When Bat-Tim says that Damian does something terrible to "The Kent Boy", does that mean since HE still remembers and knows Conner, that Conner will come back and co-exist with Jon????
[QUOTE=mrjames21;3214905]Ok, there are some new clues here.....When Bat-Tim says that Damian does something terrible to "The Kent Boy", does that mean since HE still remembers and knows Conner, that Conner will come back and co-exist with Jon????[/QUOTE]
Yeah Conner is coming back and i'm confident it is to co-exist.
[QUOTE=CPSparkles;3214904]Damian shouldn't have anything to do with Jon. Damian isn't evil. He was conditioned and misguided but never bad. now he is a hero it seems that DC writers subscribe to the one drop rule. It's such lazy writing.[/QUOTE]
Thankfully Tomasi is writing Super Sons and Teen Titans crossover not Tynion because I don't think Tomasi is intrested in making Damian evil literally I could see them establishing the evil future and just breaking down why it does not happen. I expect by the end whatever happens in the Super Sons/Teen Titans Crossover brings Jon and Damian closer not farther apart. Tomasi I think is intrested in building both of then as heroes and he has a plan. I can't say I know where Tynion is going in Detective.
[QUOTE=blitzwolf215;3214882]I figured Damian had something to with what happened to Jon in the future. While Damian being bad in the future is getting kinda old, a storyline where he learns in multiple futures he goes bad could be an interesting story. Him dealing with this info and how he reacts to it.[/QUOTE]
Poor DAMIAN??? This is the same nut who caused Wally West (the original) to have a heart problem and threaten the existence of the future without thinking through the consequences of his actions! This kid needs to really start really reviewing his actions before he does something that can't be fixed!
[QUOTE=AlcorDee;3214900]Tynion logic. Pits even brought back some thoroughly decomposed corpses before tho it's not recommended. I doubt writer cares about much else over his fanboy glasses rn.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=reni344;3214903]No you are not crazy I literally just had the same thought the Lazarus Pit brings you back from death but did not heal a Bone Spur? My biggest criticism of Tynion is often that I think he is really lazy with his writing at times. Just have Tim fight Jason why make up the Bone Spur thing?[/QUOTE]
Okay I was just checking. But c'mon Tynion. Like thinking about it for 5 minutes would've solved this problem. I wonder if someone will complain about it on twitter.
I'm confused why Tim would refer to job so unfamilliarly as "the Kent boy" tho if his bromance with Conner exists in this universe. He would've seen Job grow up and hang out with Conner and come to superfam birthday parties and ****.
***Perhaps Tynion didn't know that Lazarus Pits were involved in Jason's "healing" process. Which everyone and their dog know. But I'm slowly learning not to underestimate his single-minded fanboying. It'd be shameful if DETECTIVE COMICS of all books is being written by someone who gives so little fucks to know about some of the broadest, most basic elements of Batman cast.
[QUOTE=reni344;3214903]No you are not crazy I literally just had the same thought the Lazarus Pit brings you back from death but did not heal a Bone Spur?[/QUOTE]
I don't think that counts as an injury. Going by that logic, anyone who gets Pitted would have [I]every[/I] physical defect fixed, and I've never heard of that being the case.
[QUOTE=mrjames21;3214914]Poor DAMIAN??? This is the same nut who caused Wally West (the original) to have a heart problem and threaten the existence of the future without thinking through the consequences of his actions! This kid needs to really start really reviewing his actions before he does something that can't be fixed![/QUOTE]
His actions saved the world if I recall it didn't have to lead to a pace maker that was on the writer. I blame DC who continually crap on decent characters. Wally didn't have to have a pace Maker A writer choose to give him that pace maker.
[QUOTE=blitzwolf215;3214882]I figured Damian had something to with what happened to Jon in the future. While Damian being bad in the future is getting kinda old, a storyline where he learns in multiple futures he goes bad could be an interesting story. Him dealing with this info and how he reacts to it.[/QUOTE]
.. I remember the last arc of JUSTICE LEAGUE.. They were better deaths as cools heroes(according Hunter) than this... Even Batman Beyond Damian is a good/neutral character..
Damian was doomed for batman 666 here, but I think that Jon problem(death of millions) will be only one hero mistake, before the Tomorrow Titans wanted the "PERFECT WORLD", they are another REGIME or JUSTICE LORDS..
[QUOTE=mrjames21;3214914]Poor DAMIAN??? This is the same nut who caused Wally West (the original) to have a heart problem and threaten the existence of the future without thinking through the consequences of his actions! This kid needs to really start really reviewing his actions before he does something that can't be fixed![/QUOTE]
WRITERS, BAD DECISIONS... Kid Flash was who begin this, there are two responsibles, not only one..
He is "death" now, no? If the writers are smart, this problem will dissapear with his return... unlike they want to continue with this, nothing will change....
[QUOTE=Caivu;3214930]I don't think that counts as an injury. Going by that logic, anyone who gets Pitted would have [I]every[/I] physical defect fixed, and I've never heard of that being the case.[/QUOTE]
But if Bone Spurs are caused by an illness which in most cases they are wouldn't the Lazarus Pit cure the illness that causes the Bone Spurs?
[QUOTE=Caivu;3214930]I don't think that counts as an injury. Going by that logic, anyone who gets Pitted would have [I]every[/I] physical defect fixed, and I've never heard of that being the case.[/QUOTE]
He got rekt with a crowbar tho. P sure any direct consequences of that counts as injury. Like, if it was a birth defect or something idk but eh. I think I remember Pit fixing crooked teeth but most likely I'm mixing up with fanfics bc now THAT doesn't make much sense. I also saw it used to fix color blindness in fanfics and what? But genetics??? ? ??????
[QUOTE=Caivu;3214930]I don't think that counts as an injury. Going by that logic, anyone who gets Pitted would have [I]every[/I] physical defect fixed, and I've never heard of that being the case.[/QUOTE]
But if it's from that injury why wouldn't it be healed when everything else was? It's easier to say it puts you in a healthy state before death than being selective about what it heals.
[QUOTE=Alycat;3214944]But if it's from that injury why wouldn't it be healed when everything else was? It's easier to say it puts you in a healthy state before death than being selective about what it heals.[/QUOTE]
It could be because it's not a problem yet, and only becomes one years later.
It's a flaw. It doesn't have to be a problem. Pit even fixes childhood malnutrition, thus insta-growth spurts. And it fixes natural decay. Thus the returning youth. I think anything that's not genetic is good game. It couldn't do anything about Dusan's albino-ness iirc.
[QUOTE=Caivu;3214947]It could be because it's not a problem yet, and only becomes one years later.[/QUOTE]
I guess my problem is that there's no reason to think that when the pit has been shown to heal people just fine, even of things that might be a problem later. Which all injuries can be if not healed right. Why would it not heal this injury all the way when it fixes bigger and smaller things? Its a stupid thing put in for the sake of drama and not anything logical.
[QUOTE=Alycat;3214964]I guess my problem is that there's no reason to think that when the pit has been shown to heal people just fine, even of things that might be a problem later.[/QUOTE]
Like what? I've never heard of this happening, of it being that granular.
[QUOTE=Caivu;3214986]Like what? I've never heard of this happening, of it being that granular.[/QUOTE]
We've never been shown that it doesn't, though, and I think with what we know about how extensive the Pit's rejuvenating effects are it's easy to assume that it would.
Especially if it's a physical ailment and the Pit is all about refreshing and reviving the body.
[QUOTE=CPSparkles;3214904]Damian shouldn't have anything to do with Jon. Damian isn't evil. He was conditioned and misguided but never bad. now he is a hero it seems that DC writers subscribe to the one drop rule. It's such lazy writing.[/QUOTE]
Whatever happens to Jon it seems will have some effect or have something to do with Damian and vice versa. DC seems to be positioning the two as a duo. Whenever we learn something about Jon’s future, Damian is also mentioned. I do agree though that it’s just lazy writing with the Damian goes bad in the future. It’s like, “Oh, all that character development Damian gets? Well it goes to hell and he regresses.”
[QUOTE=adrikito;3214937].. I remember the last arc of JUSTICE LEAGUE.. They were better deaths as cools heroes(according Hunter) than this... Even Batman Beyond Damian is a good/neutral character..
Damian was doomed for batman 666 here, but I think that Jon problem(death of millions) will be only one hero mistake, before the Tomorrow Titans wanted the "PERFECT WORLD", they are another REGIME..[/QUOTE]
Yeah they are taking it too far. There is no reason warning them wouldn’t be enough. Stories involving warnings from the future rarely have good reasons for not telling everyone the whole problem other than let’s create mystery and drama.
[QUOTE=Frontier;3214990]We've never been shown that it doesn't, though, and I think with what we know about how extensive the Pit's rejuvenating effects are it's easy to assume that it would.
Especially if it's a physical ailment and the Pit is all about refreshing and reviving the body.[/QUOTE]
Well, then why doesn't anyone who's Pitted come out with perfect eyesight? Or scar removal, or perfect teeth, or whatever? Or do they, and I just haven't seen it? A bone spur isn't that big a deal in its very early stages. I don't see why the Pit would bother with it.