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[QUOTE=Zorkel567;5752223]Robins did end up winning, and will begin publishing in either November or December. A couple issues have already been solicited.
Stephanie also got to appear in the "Robins" issue of the ongoing Robin series, coming to find Damian alongside Dick, Jason, and Tim.[/QUOTE]
YEAH. Her appearance here means that she is a True Robin.
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[QUOTE=Dataweaver;5752184]DC now apparently considers her to be a “True Robin”: she got included in the Robin 80-year special, complete with her own story; and she's included in the “Robins” pitch that recently went through a popularity contest for “which title(s?) should we publish next?” (I'm not aware of who won; but that's not the point.) [B]It tends to render this poll kind of moot[/B].[/QUOTE]Well, yes and no.
Just because DC is including her in the [B][I]Robins[/I][/B] mini-/limited-series doesn't mean all readers will now accept her as a "[B][FONT=Century Gothic]true Robin[/FONT][/B]".
And some people who originally voted "NO" when this poll was first created may have changed their thinking since then[SIZE=1] (though they can't change their vote on the poll now)[/SIZE].
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Already made it to 123 people having voted.[indent]* [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]No, she was not defined by the mantle as were the other Robins[/COLOR][/B] = 69 votes
* [B][COLOR="#006400"]Yes, her time in the tights makes her as much of a Robin as the rest of the boys![/COLOR][/B] = 54 votes[/indent]
So most of today's votes[SIZE=1] (so far) [/SIZE]are "Yes", with one more "No".
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I mean I count her as a Robin but I do not consider her tenure as iconic. So like if she is left out of stuff, to me it's like I wouldn't notice unless someone actively made a point about it.
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Perhaps the way to put it would be that her time as Robin matters a lot more to her than to Robin.
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Ten more people have voted, and the gap is narrowing.
With [B]133[/B] people having voted.[indent]* [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]No, she was not defined by the mantle as were the other Robins[/COLOR][/B] = 71 votes[SIZE=1] (+ 2)[/SIZE]
* [B][COLOR="#006400"]Yes, her time in the tights makes her as much of a Robin as the rest of the boys![/COLOR][/B] = 62 votes[SIZE=1] (+ 8)[/SIZE][/indent]
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I can guarantee that if there was a way to change your vote, at least one of the No votes would now be a Yes vote — mine, in particular. Frankly, I think that this thread, and its poll, is too old and needs to be locked and possibly replaced by a new thread; too much has happened since the poll first went up.
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[QUOTE=Dataweaver;5779854]I can guarantee that if there was a way to change your vote, at least one of the No votes would now be a Yes vote — mine, in particular.[/quote]As I previously said,[indent][QUOTE=MajorHoy;5752663]Well, yes and no.
Just because DC is including her in the [B][I]Robins[/I][/B] mini-/limited-series doesn't mean all readers will now accept her as a "[B][FONT=Century Gothic]true Robin[/FONT][/B]".
[B]And some people who originally voted "NO" when this poll was first created may have changed their thinking since then[/B][SIZE=1] (though they can't change their vote on the poll now)[/SIZE].[/QUOTE][/indent]
[QUOTE=Dataweaver;5779854]Frankly, I think that this thread, and its poll, is too old and needs to be locked and possibly replaced by a new thread; too much has happened since the poll first went up.[/QUOTE]Doesn't hurt anybody to still have this running, and it has a lot of value to see if/when the numbers from new voters will eventually reverse the current results as to which position has the most votes.
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I just voted: Yes
Plot device...what isn't a plot device? I would like to have seen her as Robin longer and think the Bat editorial staff missed an opportunity.
Steph was a Robin just like Helena was a Batgirl.
How a reader wants to head canon something to fit their own bias, needs or wants is irrelevant. It's like James Cameron telling me Terminator Dark Fate is really Terminator 3 cause he head canons away the other films since he didn't do them. Too bad Cameron there is already a T3.
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With [B]145[/B] people having voted,[indent]* [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]No, she was not defined by the mantle as were the other Robins[/COLOR][/B] = 73 votes
* [B][COLOR="#006400"]Yes, her time in the tights makes her as much of a Robin as the rest of the boys![/COLOR][/B] = 72 votes[/indent]
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[QUOTE=MajorHoy;5825592][SIZE=1]NOTE: This thread was originally started back in April of 2017. [indent]
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With [B]145[/B] people having voted,[indent]* [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]No, she was not defined by the mantle as were the other Robins[/COLOR][/B] = 73 votes
* [B][COLOR="#006400"]Yes, her time in the tights makes her as much of a Robin as the rest of the boys![/COLOR][/B] = 72 votes[/indent][/QUOTE]
The combined propaganda campaign from DC is finally working! (Though it's perhaps the most halfhearted propaganda campaign ever) :)
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let her be, its not big honor or anything
her initial motivation is still shallow but sure
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I'd disagree a bit - I think being Robin is a big honor - Steph herself says it's being "part of the legend". And the motivation seen in Robin #126 is shallow (though I think relatable), but if you add the Wizard #150 short story, it gives it a bit more depth! [url]https://stephaniebrown.fandom.com/wiki/Wizard_Magazine_150[/url]
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[QUOTE=millernumber1;5832419]I'd disagree a bit - I think being Robin is a big honor - Steph herself says it's being "part of the legend". And the motivation seen in Robin #126 is shallow (though I think relatable), but if you add the Wizard #150 short story, it gives it a bit more depth! [url]https://stephaniebrown.fandom.com/wiki/Wizard_Magazine_150[/url][/QUOTE]
Perhaps back in the day when Batman and robins were more of a duo. I think the position is eyed more becuase of recognizability.
I agree with Damian it’s not a forever thing, and you should adavance from it. I like how people know Damian Name first before Robin. I think it will help in the long run.