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[QUOTE=WallStreeter;4715981]You forget Jean is sleeping with Logan, so there's Jogan and she recently slept with Bishop, so there's Jishop. So it's not like Jean is saving herself for Scott, is it?[/QUOTE]
when did she sleep with logan what issue is that or are we implying it based on the summer home
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[QUOTE=Jman27;4716076]when did she sleep with logan what issue is that or are we implying it based on the summer home[/QUOTE]
They are living on the same house with connecting rooms and so far since Hickman Logan is the only person we have seen her flirtring with.
It is not on panel but he is the only person with some hints so far
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meanwhile there is nothing suggesting she is with Scott. We have a scemma cover on this issue in fact.
Again, nothing of this is good or bad, I'm just pointing it.
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(This thread is running in circles I could have swear this exact discussion has happened a few times before on here)
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Weird I'm kinda happy for Logan that he finally has a relationship with Jean but not fully though
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[QUOTE=Jman27;4716093]Weird I'm kinda happy for Logan that he finally has a relationship with Jean but not fully though[/QUOTE]
it didn't happened yet.
[QUOTE=tuck frump;4715988]Shhhhh, youll break the illusion that Jean is the victim of misogynistic writing...[/QUOTE]
Imagine that Jean was never victim of misoginist writing
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[QUOTE=Jman27;4716093]Weird I'm kinda happy for Logan that he finally has a relationship with Jean but not fully though[/QUOTE]
I'm a Jean/Scott fan but that was going to happen some day. Nothing bad on itself, I like Wolverine, but I don't trust Marvel with the drama.
He has been waiting for decades so if someone deserved the chance was him.
I hope if it happens it is respectful for everybody
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[QUOTE=phoenixzero23;4716102]I'm a Jean/Scott fan but that was going to happen some day. Nothing bad on itself, I like Wolverine, but[B] I don't trust Marvel with the drama[/B].
He has been waiting for decades so if someone deserved the chance was him.
I hope if it happens it is respectful for everybody[/QUOTE]
Yeah i can understand that right now I'm watching the 90s series just finished the dark phoenix saga but throughout the whole show i really do like the love triangle between them
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Or they can just keep the actual depictions of "dodgy" "free-love" "full-open" sexual dynamics completely off-panel with nothing but teasing text (narration and speech) and still-life visuals (mixed discarded costumes?) referencing them. Marvel is still toeing the assumption that impressionable single-digit-age children are buying and reading these titles.
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4716095]it didn't happened yet.
Imagine that Jean was never victim of misoginist writing[/QUOTE]
"Oh dear Lord, I only ask you forgive
the self-righteous who deceive
With your words they twist
We both know hell don't exist
Except in the minds of the poor fools who believe."
But yeah totally. Everyone except Tom Taylor secretly hate women and never want them to succeed. You solved the mystery.
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[QUOTE=PsychoEFrost;4716125]"Oh dear Lord, I only ask you forgive
the self-righteous who deceive
With your words they twist
We both know hell don't exist
Except in the minds of the poor fools who believe."
But yeah totally. Everyone except Tom Taylor secretly hate women and never want them to succeed. You solved the mystery.[/QUOTE]
It's almost like you are cherry picking 11 issues, when Jean was dead for 15 years.
[QUOTE=WallStreeter;4715989]Jean said right after her resurrection that she loved Logan and she reached out to the daughters of two men she loved. Rachel and Laura. When Magneto yanked out the adamantium out of Wolverine's bones, the caption spoke about the reaction of the woman who would always love him (Jean).
So it's been stated in more than one occasion throughout the years she loves Logan, which is why his room is next to hers and there's an open door between them.[/QUOTE]
This isn't true. Jean never loved Logan.
If you are saying red annual, that was about friendship. At the end of the issue she goes to Scott grave to mourn him.
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[QUOTE=powerpax;4715357]I'm not disputing that, but there was a long stretch in the 2000s where it felt Marvel editorial didn't give a ****.[/QUOTE]
She was made prominent again because she was Alonso's favourite X-Man next to Cyclops. He even had a cheesecakey Psylocke statue on his desk.
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[QUOTE=Jman27;4716093]Weird I'm kinda happy for Logan that he finally has a relationship with Jean but not fully though[/QUOTE]
I don't think Mutants like Scott, Jean, Storm, Wolverine, Archangel, etc can ever give themselves fully in a relationship. Not as long as the X-Men exists.
[QUOTE=Londo Bellian;4716120]Or they can just keep the actual depictions of "dodgy" "free-love" "full-open" sexual dynamics completely off-panel with nothing but teasing text (narration and speech) and still-life visuals (mixed discarded costumes?) referencing them. [B]Marvel is still toeing the assumption that impressionable single-digit-age children are buying and reading these titles.[/B][/QUOTE]
lol because God knows kids these days are looking to the printed page to
Get their kinks
lol
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[QUOTE=Londo Bellian;4716120]Or they can just keep the actual depictions of "dodgy" "free-love" "full-open" sexual dynamics completely off-panel with nothing but teasing text (narration and speech) and still-life visuals (mixed discarded costumes?) referencing them. Marvel is still toeing the assumption that impressionable single-digit-age children are buying and reading these titles.[/QUOTE]
Kids and their mothers still buy merchandise and go to see movies.
But the problem here isn't only that. You have a story structure that you need to keep.
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I haven’t read xmen or hox, just xforce. But a couple of questions / thoughts
1: could jean just be referring to the past about Emma borrowing things?
2.: is there actual indisputable evidence that some sort of open relationship going on? I don’t mean implying things from sharing a residence, unlettered previews, two people arriving together at the same meeting?
Again I haven’t read it so I’m legitimately asking. All I’ve seen so far is conclusion drawing based on hints but nothing actually offical.
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[QUOTE=Grey;4716141]I haven’t read xmen or hox, just xforce. But a couple of questions / thoughts
1: could jean just be referring to the past about Emma borrowing things?
2.: is there actual indisputable evidence that some sort of open relationship going on? I don’t mean implying things from sharing a residence, unlettered previews, two people arriving together at the same meeting?
Again I haven’t read it so I’m legitimately asking. All I’ve seen so far is conclusion drawing based on hints but nothing actually offical.[/QUOTE]
1. Yes, very possible
2. No. only teasing and people interpretation
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4716130]It's almost like you are cherry picking 11 issues, when Jean was dead for 15 years.
This isn't true. Jean never loved Logan.
If you are saying red annual, that was about friendship. At the end of the issue she goes to Scott grave to mourn him.[/QUOTE]
He literally gave you evidence that Jean always held a flame for Logan, and you're rebuttal is little more than "nuh uh". Come on.
And I won't continue the previous conversation. You think every writer that doesn't show Jean as the all-goddess of mutantkind hates her and hates women, and I don't think that's true. We're at an impasse in that regard.