Happy New Year and hope there are good things in the store for everyone's favorite magician. .
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Happy New Year and hope there are good things in the store for everyone's favorite magician. .
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Yppah wen reay :p
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Fingers crossed we get a solo series this year.
Happy New Year to the Mistress of Magic and the most iconic leggy dame in nylons :D.
[QUOTE=Gaius;5306321]Yppah wen reay :p
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Dednoces! :)
First appearance:
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[B][i]Hawkman #4[/i][/B] (October-November 1964)
I posted this on the old thread shortly before it was locked. Part of my Christmas comic haul was this lovely book...
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the 2nd appearance of Zee in Atom #19.
Hoping to add Zee's solo back ups in Adventure Comics and Supergirl to my collection this year.
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Happy new year fellow Zatanna fans.
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Can never complain about a good girls night out comic ;).
[QUOTE=Frontier;5308450]Can never complain about a good girls night out comic ;). [/QUOTE]Oh, I wouldn't say that . . .
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At first, it seemed like a sweet story, but the more you think about it, it begins to annoy the hell out of you with inconsistencies like Wonder Woman and Zatanna [U]not[/U] trying to do anything that would change the expected outcome.
[QUOTE=MajorHoy;5308465]Oh, I wouldn't say that . . .
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At first, it seemed like a sweet story, but the more you think about it, it begins to annoy the hell out of you with inconsistencies like Wonder Woman and Zatanna [U]not[/U] trying to do anything that would change the expected outcome.[/QUOTE]
Still kind of a fun/cute issue though (in my opinion)...
[QUOTE=MajorHoy;5308465]Oh, I wouldn't say that . . .
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At first, it seemed like a sweet story, but the more you think about it, it begins to annoy the hell out of you with inconsistencies like Wonder Woman and Zatanna [U]not[/U] trying to do anything that would change the expected outcome.[/QUOTE]
It was coming out around that Booster Gold run that was predicated on the idea of "solidified time," that some events must happen and that if you try and change them, the timeline will correct and force them to happen anyway.
Barbara Gordon getting crippled was explicitly one of those moments. Booster got mangled tens of times trying to stop it. Bruce found out later on, too. He might have told them. I like to think people of Diana's experience and Zee's knowledge more or less knew of that from their adventures.
[QUOTE=MRP;5308195]I posted this on the old thread shortly before it was locked. Part of my Christmas comic haul was this lovely book...
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the 2nd appearance of Zee in Atom #19.
Hoping to add Zee's solo back ups in Adventure Comics and Supergirl to my collection this year.
-M[/QUOTE]
Awesome. This was part of Zatanna's Search for her Father.
I hope Ray and Zee have more interactions in the future.
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JLA(1997)#69
This was the last time I saw them interact before IC.
They look cute together.
I maybe wrong but I think Zatanna is probably the first legacy character of the opposite gender.
[QUOTE=Edwin30;5308987]Awesome. This was part of Zatanna's Search for her Father.
I hope Ray and Zee have more interactions in the future.
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JLA(1997)#69
This was the last time I saw them interact before IC.
They look cute together.
I maybe wrong but I think Zatanna is probably the first legacy character of the opposite gender.[/QUOTE]
I never really think of Ray and Zee together, but it looks nice.
Most people probably forget she's a legacy to her father, since he was the original.
[QUOTE=Gaius;5306321]Yppah wen reay :p
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Nmad, hsiw I thguoht ot etirw eht daerht eltit sdrawkcab.
[QUOTE=Robanker;5308648]It was coming out around that Booster Gold run that was predicated on the idea of "solidified time," that some events must happen and that if you try and change them, the timeline will correct and force them to happen anyway.
Barbara Gordon getting crippled was explicitly one of those moments. Booster got mangled tens of times trying to stop it. Bruce found out later on, too. He might have told them. I like to think people of Diana's experience and Zee's knowledge more or less knew of that from their adventures.[/QUOTE]
Can't say I am a fan of that take on time travel. Although I like the idea of time being self correcting and not just anybody can mess with it. Much prefer the branching timeline hypothesis where a change in the past only results in an alternate branching timeline with the main timeline being unaffected.
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Underrated friendship.
[QUOTE=Edwin30;5308987]Awesome. This was part of Zatanna's Search for her Father.
I hope Ray and Zee have more interactions in the future.
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JLA(1997)#69
This was the last time I saw them interact before IC.
They look cute together.
I maybe wrong but I think Zatanna is probably the first legacy character of the opposite gender.[/QUOTE]
Also the first person she confided in when her powers started waning in the Satellite era JLA. Underrated friendship. Almost too minor to be seen.
Some Dustin Nguyen Zatanna:
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[QUOTE=Robanker;5308648]It was coming out around that Booster Gold run that was predicated on the idea of "solidified time," that some events must happen and that if you try and change them, the timeline will correct and force them to happen anyway.
Barbara Gordon getting crippled was explicitly one of those moments. Booster got mangled tens of times trying to stop it. Bruce found out later on, too. He might have told them. I like to think people of Diana's experience and Zee's knowledge more or less knew of that from their adventures.[/QUOTE]A stupid concept if there ever was one. If people can't change things that haven't happened yet, then there's no point to life. Everything is predetermined, so why bother?
just saw the[I] Justice League Dark [/I]cartoon movie. Really cool overall, good portrayal of Zatanna. Hope to see more of her in cartoons.
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Kind of surprised no one went for it yet, honestly. :p
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Chiang's probably my favorite Zatanna artist. Wish he got to do more on her.
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Dustin Nguyen's a pretty underrated Zee artist in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5310010]Dustin Nguyen's a pretty underrated artist in my opinion.[/QUOTE] Fixed it for you, but yeah, he draws a great Zee.
[QUOTE=Zee_Fan;5306681]Fingers crossed we get a solo series this year.[/QUOTE]
I hope so too. But DC needs to be clever about it.
IMO Zee is really popular among the general population but not so much among the comic book readers. So she might not get the numbers to last very long.
One way to sell her would be to make her book be connected to the Main JLD. Also the tone of the book needs to be serious and have some horror elements.
It's a real shame that the one ongoing she got was at the worst time in her life and that only lasted for 16 issues.
I feel bad for saying this but I didn't like Paul Dini's run.
I like Dini's characterization of Zatanna but his plots can be meh at times.
I want a Zatanna ongoing too but Zee's been stuck in dark gothic aesthetic of the Nu52 for a decade now, it's time for something new. I don't need every Zatanna story to be spooky but I don't need every story to be light either. I would prefer a mix of both. Build up her supporting characters and bring back characters like Zachary, Dale Colton, Jeff Sloane (albeit revamped) and Tong (again revamped). Enough with the rehashes where she searches for her father or angsts about his death or relationship drama with Constantine/Batman/Nightwing, build up and modernize underused concepts and characters like her mother Sindella and the Hidden City. Build up on her relationship with heroes like Wonder Woman, Black Canary, Batman, Ray Palmer, Hawkman & Hawkgirl, given that they are both in the show biz I'm surprised there hasn't been a cross over between her and Booster Gold. If you need other heroes to beef up her ongoing without overshadowing her throw in Madame Xanadu, Blue Devil, Kid Devil, Traci 13 or Black Alice.
I really enjoyed Paul Dini's book and I'm kind of over super serious supernatural Zee. I'd be fine with a solo book that balanced tones and magic well.
If you see the WandaVision commercials you can see Wanda dressed up like Zatanna.
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Love Chiang’s art, pity he never drew a mini or ongoing for her.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5310624]I really enjoyed Paul Dini's book and I'm kind of over super serious supernatural Zee. I'd be fine with a solo book that balanced tones and magic well.[/QUOTE]
Yup. This right here.
[QUOTE=MajorHoy;5308465]Oh, I wouldn't say that . . .
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At first, it seemed like a sweet story, but the more you think about it, it begins to annoy the hell out of you with inconsistencies like Wonder Woman and Zatanna [U]not[/U] trying to do anything that would change the expected outcome.[/QUOTE]
I never liked this story for that reason. This whole "Fate can't be changed" crap is ridiculous.
[quote]A stupid concept if there ever was one. If people can't change things that haven't happened yet, then there's no point to life. Everything is predetermined, so why bother? [/quote]I absolutely agree. Doesn't help that the rule are always so hazy as to what's unchangeable or not. Makes it a cheap plot device for angst and misery and [i]also[/i] a cheap plot device for reversing the shocking deaths when they want to.
[QUOTE=MajorHoy;5308465]Oh, I wouldn't say that . . .
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At first, it seemed like a sweet story, but the more you think about it, it begins to annoy the hell out of you with inconsistencies like Wonder Woman and Zatanna [U]not[/U] trying to do anything that would change the expected outcome.[/QUOTE]
So I read the controversial issue #33 of the Brave and the Bold and I don't know how I feel about this.
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Zee to Babs : "Invite him (Gordon) over to dinner some time. Even cops have to eat."
A few pages later. At the day of the Killing joke.
Babs to Gordon : "I'm so glad you could make it over for dinner, dad. As a friend reminded me lately even cops need to eat."
WTF
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[QUOTE=Edwin30;5313665]So I read the controversial issue #33 of the Brave and the Bold and I don't know how I feel about this.
Zee to Babs : "Invite him (Gordon) over to dinner some time. Even cops have to eat."
A few pages later. At the day of the Killing joke.
Babs to Gordon : "I'm so glad you could make it over for dinner, dad. As a friend reminded me lately even cops need to eat."
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In comic books you can't even invite someone to dinner without it being part of some cosmic uber plot.
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Kind of surprised Victorian Zatanna's in pants.
You just don't like her in anything besides fishnets or bare legs do you? :P
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Justice League Dark (2018) # 12
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This is one of Zatanna's greatest moments. James Tynion IV and Alvaro Martinez Bueno did a great job making this moment quite memorable. I noticed that Tynion took inspiration from some of Zatanna's history like -
The Red Dragon headress that Zee wore with her Satellite era costume which now has a slightly different design. I like how it's used to hold Sargon's Ruby that contains Mordru's chaos magic.
Ripping the panels of the comic. It is a homage to Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers: Zatanna where Zee fought Zor, an enemy of the Spectre.
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James Tynion IV also added a twist of his own by changing Zatanna's backward speech to anagrams to show Zee's turn toward Chaos.
Also I really like Manbat's eagerness to learn more about magic. His inexperience with magic allows Zee to show her knowledge and expertise in magic.
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I'm probably one of the few who liked her Blue/White JLA costume.
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I was more thinking of Victorian fashion for ladies, but I am a fan of the iconic look :).
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I like it too. Especially given the reason why she wore it:
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