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[CENTER][B][SIZE=3]The youngest member of the Fantastic Four was deserving and overdue of an appreciation thread.
So here's a thread to appreciate the lovable hothead :D
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He was always my favorite member of the FF.
This has to be my favorite Johnny moment....
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My favorite moment was just before his "death" in Hickman's run. He showed that he is a true hero.
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Sigh. I liked Hikman's Torch.
[QUOTE=Grim Fandango;3182291]Sigh. I liked Hikman's Torch.[/QUOTE]
Yeah he matured Johnny and made him the leader of a rebellion. But when Hickman left Johnny regressed... again.
Nice! I've always liked Human Torch, especially because of his likeness to Iceman. Definitely overdue for an appreciation thread.
Hickman’s Johnny is a fave of mine. Such a great run, and his arc was superb.
[QUOTE=Crimz;3182298]Yeah he matured Johnny and made him the leader of a rebellion. But when Hickman left Johnny regressed... again.[/QUOTE]
Not entirely fair. Johnny 'regressed' again into some of his party-boy immature behaviour even when Hickman was still on the book (for a main example, look at the issues of Johnny and Peter Parker as roommates). Its just part of who Johnny is--he is smarter and more mature than most people realize, because he [I]chooses[/I] to be the fun-loving party boy most of the time.
[QUOTE=Dermie;3182533]Not entirely fair. Johnny 'regressed' again into some of his party-boy immature behaviour even when Hickman was still on the book (for a main example, look at the issues of Johnny and Peter Parker as roommates). Its just part of who Johnny is--he is smarter and more mature than most people realize, because he [I]chooses[/I] to be the fun-loving party boy most of the time.[/QUOTE]
Agreed 100%. I think Johnny likes having people underestimate him, and it serves as a good indicator of when the FF is in real trouble - when Johnny starts taking things seriously. To be honest, I kind of liked Mark Millar's take on him as an offshoot of Mark Waid's take. He's rash, kind of flighty, fame hungry, and jumping from project to project to keep his interest. Honestly, the dude can FLY and survive fiery explosions. Racing, piloting, all that stuff - boring after a while. He needs constant engagement and is most destructive when he's bored.
[QUOTE=Dermie;3182533]Not entirely fair. Johnny 'regressed' again into some of his party-boy immature behaviour even when Hickman was still on the book (for a main example, look at the issues of Johnny and Peter Parker as roommates). Its just part of who Johnny is--he is smarter and more mature than most people realize, because he [I]chooses[/I] to be the fun-loving party boy most of the time.[/QUOTE]
fair point.
Wow, I'm surprised that Johnny doesn't have his own thread already. Here is my contribution!
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I'm really looking forward to Two-in-One, we at least know the art is going to be great.
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Two in One is the one book I'll be adding to my pull list for Legacy. Everything else I've already been reading... But I'm very excited for this.
I'm very surprised that there wasn't already a thread for Johnny!
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Johnny Storm and his sister Sue have taken up residence in Glenville, New York, where nobody is aware that they are members of the Fantastic Four [B][SIZE=1]yeah right[/SIZE][/B].
The town has recently begun construction of a new amusement park which has been the target of sabotage,
by somebody who has also been sending threatening letters to the local newspaper, calling himself the Destroyer.
Johnny, as the Human Torch, decides to get to the bottom of things and find out why this is happening.
He foils a number of acts of sabotage and saves people from getting hurt.
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His efforts netted him a challenge being issued by the Destroyer through the newspaper.
When the Thing arrives to give the Torch some help thinking that Johnny is in over his head, the Torch refuses.
Going to the meeting place, a cabin in the woods, the Torch has his flame doused with a bucket of water and is easily duped by the Destroyer who manages to escape.
Johnny later decides to see why the Destroyer is targeting the amusement park. Upon closer inspection, he finds that there is a Soviet submarine off the coast.
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With the help of the US military, he captures the spies, and the Torch learns the hide out of the Destroyer.
The Torch easily defeats the Destroyer this time and reveals him to be Charles Stanton, editor of the newspaper company which published the Destroyer's letters.
He was working for a newspaper to learn what he could about the goings on in America to report back to his superiors,
and he targeted the amusement park because its construction near the waterway would have made the Soviet sub visible to others.
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Yeah right, is right. It was later revealed they were just playing along. The FF title had the team as celebrities from the very beginning.
I love the playful side of Johnny. He was always on my team of elementals in the MUA games, #1 & 2. It also helps that he likes women that cosplay as Storm. He wins in my book!
I miss when Johnny used to interesting things with his powers, like create duplicates, constructs out of fire, and other interesting things. Recently he just seems to do the basic flamethrower and fireball stuff.
Makes lasso's out of flame
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Creating duplictaes
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Freezing a room by absorbing all the heat
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How was Johnny written in Robinson's volume of Fantastic Four a couple years ago?
[QUOTE=cc008;3190242]How was Johnny written in Robinson's volume of Fantastic Four a couple years ago?[/QUOTE]
Moping about and being self-destructive after losing his powers, he even had to have interventions from his friends. It wasn't the best depiction of Johnny, but I think Robinson was building up to something that got derailed by the cancellation.
[QUOTE=Crimz;3190264]Moping about and being self-destructive after losing his powers, he even had to have interventions from his friends. It wasn't the best depiction of Johnny, but I think Robinson was building up to something that got derailed by the cancellation.[/QUOTE]
Ah okay, maybe I won't pick it up then.. Doing some prep for Two-In-One.
I dropped UA after Duggan, Deadpool, and Cable left, but I may pick it up to keep up with Torch.
It's time to enjoy more appearances of Johnny Storm and from Today's Marvel.Com is the Sketchbook from [I][B]MOON GIRL & DEVIL DINOSAUR #25[/B][/I]{Part One of the [B]FANTASTIC THREE[/B] Storyarc}.
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where is Johnny, age-wise, relative to the original 5 X-Men?
[QUOTE=Michael Watkins;3194118]where is Johnny, age-wise, relative to the original 5 X-Men?[/QUOTE]
at least originally, he'd probably be iceman's age-ish, 15-16, also like spidey-- whether that's how he is officially seen now I have no idea.
What brought on the romance with Medusa? How did Crystal feel about that?
[QUOTE=Michael Watkins;3194118]where is Johnny, age-wise, relative to the original 5 X-Men?[/QUOTE]
I'd put him a year older than Bobby but younger than the rest. So right in the middle of the bunch. At least when Lee and Kirby were doing both books. After all the shuffling of time continuums, wjo knows anymore?,
I guess I just put him and Peter Parker at about around the same age, which is about 30 at this point.
[QUOTE=CaptCleghorn;3194175]I'd put him a year older than Bobby but younger than the rest. So right in the middle of the bunch. At least when Lee and Kirby were doing both books. After all the shuffling of time continuums, wjo knows anymore?,[/QUOTE]
that sounds right. i was surprised at how young he looked in the first run of Fantastic Four. he wasn't drawn to be a ladies man or anything; like he is now. that reminded me of Bobby who was always depicted as more kid than teenager.
they need to bring back this look.
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[QUOTE=cc008;3190269]Ah okay, maybe I won't pick it up then.. Doing some prep for Two-In-One. [/QUOTE]
Johnny had a rough patch during that run, for sure--but so did the entire team. Robinson's entire run was a huge arc of the team being torn apart, broken down, and then ultimately overcoming their individual challenges and reuniting to deal with the true problem. Overall I thought the Robinson run was a real love-letter to the history of the FF. It incorporated so much FF continuity (both old and recent) and brought back old supporting characters and allies who used to be very prominent in the series but have fallen into disuse in more recent years (Wyatt Wingfoot, Sharon Ventura, etc). I really quite enjoyed the run.
I'd like to do as much back up reading as possible, even though everyone will say it's probably not necessary. Just how my mind works lol
Working on getting the first half of Hickman's run of Fantastic 4
[QUOTE=Michael Watkins;3194237]that sounds right. i was surprised at how young he looked in the first run of Fantastic Four. he wasn't drawn to be a ladies man or anything; like he is now. that reminded me of Bobby who was always depicted as more kid than teenager.
they need to bring back this look.
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Johnny has zero dress sense.
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[QUOTE=Dermie;3195197]Johnny had a rough patch during that run, for sure--but so did the entire team. Robinson's entire run was a huge arc of the team being torn apart, broken down, and then ultimately overcoming their individual challenges and reuniting to deal with the true problem. Overall I thought the Robinson run was a real love-letter to the history of the FF. It incorporated so much FF continuity (both old and recent) and brought back old supporting characters and allies who used to be very prominent in the series but have fallen into disuse in more recent years (Wyatt Wingfoot, Sharon Ventura, etc). I really quite enjoyed the run.[/QUOTE]
I also enjoyed Robinson's run, but it wasn't the best for Johnny. It's also a run that caters more to long-time FF fans, than new readers still trying to get a feel of the characters.
I wish writers did more with his mechanic/engineering skills and play them up a bit. I think him, Ben, and Sue need some skills that has them more involved in the scientific and exploration part of the Fantastic Four.
Johnny is meant to be really good at it and passionate about it too.
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too late now. but, in a way, now-deceased actor Paul Walker was kind of born to play Johnny. he was a gearhead, as well; apparently. but thank you for posting those panels. it's good that they showcased Johnny's mechanical skill. it makes him more than just the shallow "kid" of the team. they realized that he had to be "more" early on.
I wonder if Shyla, of the Locust Project, will ever resurface. Johnny doesn't have much of a rogues gallery; unless you count Psycho-Woman.
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So underrated, when i was a kid, he was my favorite hero, now theres nothing about him u____u
[QUOTE=darewithpeace;3235097]So underrated, when i was a kid, he was my favorite hero, now theres nothing about him u____u[/QUOTE]
.....Save for what's currently going on within [I][B]UNCANNY AVENGERS, AVENGERS: NO SURRENDER[/B] & [B]MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE[/B][/I] {The latter two series coming soon...}. ;)
[QUOTE=PaxHouse;3235243].....Save for what's currently going on within [I][B]UNCANNY AVENGERS, AVENGERS: NO SURRENDER[/B] & [B]MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE[/B][/I] {The latter two series coming soon...}. ;)[/QUOTE]
How are those series? I might check them out
[QUOTE=darewithpeace;3235249]How are those series? I might check them out[/QUOTE]
Uncanny Avengers - a pretty good read, but it doesn't have a lot of Johnny in it. I still recommend it though.
Marvel Two-in-One - The first issue is out December 6th so we'll soon find out if it's good. I'm looking forward to it.
[url]https://www.cbr.com/preview-marvel-two-in-one-jim-cheung/[/url]
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...Mr. Cheung has still got it...!! And let's hope this series will be a long one....!:cool: