[QUOTE=DrNewGod;4449551]I get a sense that you view the intent of this thread as derogatory. It isn't. It's just fun to speculate on the individual strands of our hobby's DNA.[/QUOTE]
Noted. I refrain from more "Get Off My Lawn!" posts.
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[QUOTE=DrNewGod;4449551]I get a sense that you view the intent of this thread as derogatory. It isn't. It's just fun to speculate on the individual strands of our hobby's DNA.[/QUOTE]
Noted. I refrain from more "Get Off My Lawn!" posts.
I loved when I was reading the origin issue of the X-Men villain Sauron, and Roy Thomas, IN FREAKIN' STORY, had the character blatantly swipe his name from Lord Of The Rings.
Talk about owning it.
[QUOTE=PaulBullion;4449544]The wise cracking superhero in a skin tight outfit whose civilian initials are P.P. and who uses an automatic camera to take pics of his superhero exploits to sell to a newspaper?
He's the Fox.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_(comics)[/url][/QUOTE]
Interesting! I knew that Spidey was similar in part to the 1940s character Spider-Queen (both turn to crime-fighting after someone close to them is murdered; both are science-oriented and develop web-shooters, etc.) but I'd never heard of this Fox character. Thanks, I love reading stuff like this--it's fun.
[QUOTE=tbaron;4449673]As much as I love Hawkeye he is just the Marvel copy of Green Arrow. Both use bows and trick arrows and are on a team with super powered heroes that pretty much out class them.[/QUOTE]
I think Hawkeye agrees with your assessment--here he is in 1967's Avengers #42 :p;)
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How about the Squadron Supreme being a rip off of the Justice League?
I'm more interested in the less obvious influences. For instance,
This in 1954
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I didn't know this for a long time, but The Hellfire Club from the X-Men were basically a rip-off of a similar group from the 60's spy TV show "The Avengers".
( I'm at work so I can't be googling images of women in bustiers even if they were from old tv shows...)
And how many rip-offs of Superman has Marvel done? From Hyperion to Gladiator to Count Nefaria to the Sentry, there have been more than a few.
[QUOTE=tbaron;4452815]How about the Squadron Supreme being a rip off of the Justice League?[/QUOTE]
"rip off" implies they weren't overtly referencing the JL and making no claims it wasn't completly intentional and obvious.
[QUOTE=Kirby101;4452884]"rip off" implies they weren't overtly referencing the JL and making no claims it wasn't completly intentional and obvious.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Squadron was intended as 1/2 of a bit of an in-joke between the creative teams of The JLA and The Avengers to stage the JL v. Avengers brawl that every fan wanted, and neither publisher was going to allow. It's just that Marvel invested more in their Squadron than DC did The Champions of Angor (owing largely, IMO, to the lasting impact of the late Mark Gruenwald's outstanding 1985 mini-series).
[QUOTE=WestPhillyPunisher;4452861]And how many rip-offs of Superman has Marvel done? From Hyperion to Gladiator to Count Nefaria to the Sentry, there have been more than a few.[/QUOTE]
I would not include Count Nefaria because he existed for years as a regular human villain. Later on, he absorbed the powers of 3 Marvel super villains, magnified a hundred-fold. The intent was not so much to create a Super analogue as a super-super-powered villain able to take on entire teams of Avengers
[QUOTE=Shalla Bal;4450193]Interesting! I knew that Spidey was similar in part to the 1940s character Spider-Queen (both turn to crime-fighting after someone close to them is murdered; both are science-oriented and develop web-shooters, etc.) but I'd never heard of this Fox character. Thanks, I love reading stuff like this--it's fun.[/QUOTE]
There were a couple of really good Fox mini series from Archie a few years ago. Be Mark Waid and Dean Haspiel.
[QUOTE=Kirby101;4452884]"rip off" implies they weren't overtly referencing the JL and making no claims it wasn't completly intentional and obvious.[/QUOTE]
And didn't DC introduce a team based on the Avengers around the same time, with Blue Jay and Silver Sorceress?
[COLOR="#FFA500"][SIZE=1]Or am I thinking of the time when the Invaders had a thinly disguised JSA guest starring the same month the Freedom Fighters had an Invaders-like team? [/SIZE][/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Kirby101;4452884]"rip off" implies they weren't overtly referencing the JL and making no claims it wasn't completly intentional and obvious.[/QUOTE]
"Man these guys are a bunch of Squadron Supreme rip offs" - Hawkeye, JLAvengers. :p
[QUOTE=SquirrelMan;4454336]There were a couple of really good Fox mini series from Archie a few years ago. Be Mark Waid and Dean Haspiel.[/QUOTE]
Yes, highly recommended.
From the "Dark Circle" line, but sadly not as successful as "Afterlife With Archie."
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