As of yesterday, we may finally be getting a Black Widow movie. After hearing the news, I went everywhere online to see just how hyped everyone was about it. I mean, she is technically the main female of the MCU. However, it seems to me that the reaction so far has been kind of lukewarm. Is it just me? Is anyone actually excited for this film? And if not, why? As for me, I'll watch the movie, even though I wasn't one of those screaming for her get one.
Looking forward to it, if it is a fun movie. It doesn't have to be a super-huge budget. They can make it a spy story and streamline the budget.
No, I'm not into spy films. Scarlett is a good actress, but she is very literally the sole reason this movie is being made. No one (important) actually cares enough about the character themselves to make this movie.
I'm a fan of the character but not of Johansson. I think the reason Marvel was hesitant at first to make a solo movie with her is because most movies where she is the star fails to put asses in seats. I know some people love her as the Black Widow but her performance as the character just falls flat for me. Sorry.
As a fan of comics Black Widow, I'm exicted but not that much because I don't really love MCU characters at least my two fav (in the comics) who are Hawkeye (the MCU Hawkeye is really bad) and Black Widow who is better but not great.
I want to hope it will be a good film and I hope it'll be a spy film without super power, super tech and those thing we got since the beginning of the MCU, just a spy movie with human (like Widow or Hawkeye, those kind of character).
But I'll see how it goes.
It's like a James Bond movie, except with even more superhero elements than usual, and a more likeable main character. What's not to like?
Also, it's about damn time too.
No.
Hate the character, hate the actress, hate the spy genre,...
You couldn't drag me to see that movie.
I'm interested to see what they do with it and hope they don't put Taika Waititi in the director's chair.
I also hope Bucky's in it.
I would like to hear more about the movie before I decide whether or not I'm excited about it.
But I think she's a good character to make a movie out of, and in a general sense it's nice to see other characters getting some spotlight.
I hope that there are superhumans in it. I'm talking about Unicorn, Ursa Major, Darkstar, etc. but I assume it will be a formulaic black widow vs black widow picture. maybe they could swipe Bucky's story; where he winds up in the Russian prison and has to fight his way out.
Excited is probably too strong a word... but I'm definitely interested in seeing it.
Would be cool if it tied a little more into the Agents of SHIELD universe, but that ship probably has sailed.
Extremely excited, though probably less so than if it had been announced when I was more interested in the MCU and superhero movies in general.
If it really does go through, I'm anxious over how they'll interpret the character. I think you can easily make something really formulaic and boring if you exclusively focus on some of the surface-level tropes. Like, I expect them to examine the atonement angle, since that's what her MCU character is built on, and deal with the trauma from being raised in the Red Room since the MCU is using that origin, but if they [I]only[/I] focus on that stuff, it'll be boring.
I do hope they use Yelena. It would suck for them to stop using the evil mirror-version of a character by the time they get to BW, since I think Yelena is an interesting twist on that trope.
[QUOTE=Michael Watkins;3371628]maybe they could swipe Bucky's story; where he winds up in the Russian prison and has to fight his way out.[/QUOTE]
One of the villains in that story was from a BW-centric arc in The Champions, so it wouldn't be such a bad idea :P
I used to want one, and after Cap 2 would have been the prime time for it (dealing with the fall of SHIELD, her dumping all her info out there, all the past enemies that could have come back to haunt her), but now I don't trust Marvel with her character anymore. I hated how she was portrayed in AoU and am afraid if they make a movie for her now they'll shove Bruce or Bucky into it, neither of which I want anywhere near her. I'm just too worried they're going to mess her up more than Whedon already did.
If they DO make one I hope they keep it grounded, just fun gadgets and super spy stuff, but no enhanced people. So a supporting cast of Clint, Fury, Maria and Sharon would be great.
I think it's about time. I have a tremendous amount of affection for the character and would love to see her get a chance to shine in her own film.
I'm excited. I wish it had come sooner
[QUOTE=Silvermoth;3371739]I'm excited. I wish it had come sooner[/QUOTE]
This
Love the character, thinks SJ does a good job, love spyfi
can't wait
Wouldn't watch it for the same reasons I wouldn't read a BW monthly. The entire genre doesn't appeal to me. The ONLY reason BW is seen so much in MCU is SJ. Her history as an Avenger has always been peripheral and for a good reason.
Yes! I love spy films. Salt with Angelina Jolie never took off, Red Sparrow at it's core smells a lot in places what a Black Widow film might contain.
Also, the Omnibus fan in me likes the possibility of getting a Black Widow Omni out of this if it happens!
Grace makes some good points for why you should temper your expectations, namely, that the script writer Jac Schaeffer is a writer of comedies with female leads with little experience and that recent spy movies with female leads don't do well in the domestic market. And comedies are some of Scarlett Johansson's worst films she has done.
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Well, to be fair, before Winter Soldier the Russo Bros were best known for comedies.
Im not terribly excited, but I'll definitely go see it.
Im pretty ambivalent about the Widow in both comics and film. I dont dislike her or anything, but Im not really a fan.
I also wonder how deep they'll be willing to go. The best parts of Nat's history and character (IMO) are the darker elements, and I just dont see Disney going there.
But who knows. I didn't care for Captain America until Chris Evans, so maybe a Widow film could turn me around on the character. And just for the sake of Widow's fans (and the lack of female superhero movies in general) I'll be glad if this happens.
BW is someone who relies on her skillset (and gadgets!) to get things done, so a super spy caper movie co-starring Nick Fury, Maria Hill, Sharon Carter could be a lot of fun. But keep powerhouses like Iron Man, Hulk, Thor away because we don't want BW overshadowed in her own movie.
I can't say for sure, but if I had to lean one way over the other, it would be: not.
1. Red Sparrow is coming out this year. That's basically a standalone Black Widow movie.
2. I have a feeling the wrong director would be given the task of bringing Black Widow solo to screen. Not only that, I think the wrong tone would be taken, as well.
3. I think they'll mess up Black Widow's look to try and be more "visually interesting". I would like to see Black Widow look more like she did in Winter Soldier. My feeling is, they'll go with an Age of Ultron-esque look.
4. I think it will feel half-hearted. It almost feels as though this movie is being made because it "has to be made", rather than someone thinking "Man...I have this great story to tell about Black Widow and I have been dying to tell it."
I'll check it out.
Actually I had been hoping that they'd do a Black Widow/Hawkeye/Nick Fury team-up movie.
[QUOTE=Michael Watkins;3371628]I hope that there are superhumans in it. I'm talking about Unicorn, Ursa Major, Darkstar, etc. but I assume it will be a formulaic black widow vs black widow picture. maybe they could swipe Bucky's story; where he winds up in the Russian prison and has to fight his way out.[/QUOTE]
Ya I was thinking something along those lines, though instead of a prison he wants to find more about the winter soldier program or something
I'd been wanting to see a Black Widow movie made for some time (I was one of those people shaking their heads at Captain Marvel getting a solo movie, but no Widow film planned).
I still want it to get made and see it, but I do have to admit that I've lost some enthusiasm over time. There's other stuff that is much higher on my "need to see" and "want to be made" lists these days.
Not particular excited to be honest. I find ScarJo a bit dull as Black Widow. I'll watch the solo movie if characters like Nick Fury, Maria Hill, Hawkeye, Sharon Carter or Winter Soldier pop up in supporting roles.
Sure, just make it like the first M:I movie but with cooler tech, and a few powered enemies.
Also, I'd like to see Hill, Fury, and Agent 13 as costars. Maybe some Agents of SHIELD cameos or nods because I imagine the show will have wrapped by then.
Maybe. I do like James Bond type of flicks -- more in the Roger Moore vein -- lots of action -- not just espionage. I loved Natasha's scenes in Iron Man 2. I want to see more of that -- and see her using widow's bite blasters -- finally!
It really depends how they do it. I don't relish a psychological Bourne style thriller about her Red Room years, but a pedal to the metal Bond or Mission Impossible style caper with Marvel elements and a good sense of humour would certainly have me interested. On the other hand, the last superhero movie to do the Bond style I like, travelogue action-romance, was The Wolverine and although I really liked it many regard it as a misstep. Maybe what I would like may be a little old-fashioned.
Not excited. I’ve found BW to be mostly boring in the movies and never liked SJ as Natasha.
Would've preferred a Netflix series of a younger BW sans ScarJo, but I'm happy for all the fans who wanted this. Hoping it doesn't follow a formulaic villain with same power set story though. Also hoping we'll get some Winter Soldier too.
Yes, absolutely. She's been my favorite MCU Avenger and I've been waiting for this for years.
Part of me would like to see this as the MCU's first R-rated film (since Bob Iger says that he's open to that idea). Not that I expect that to happen, but it'd be kind of cool. Basically a MAX story as a film.
[QUOTE=kcekada;3372969]Maybe. I do like James Bond type of flicks -- more in the Roger Moore vein -- lots of action -- not just espionage. I loved Natasha's scenes in Iron Man 2. I want to see more of that -- and see her using widow's bite blasters -- finally![/QUOTE]
The espionage level of most Bond movies not titled "From Russia With Love" hovers around zero.
[QUOTE=Alan2099;3372094]I'll check it out.
Actually I had been hoping that they'd do a Black Widow/Hawkeye/Nick Fury team-up movie.[/QUOTE]
This is the movie I've wanted since 2012. I was pretty disappointed when they made a SHIELD tv series instead because I really wanted this movie. Clint and Natasha are my favourites but have been shafted, and Fury has kinda vanished; I would love to see this dynamic on screen.
The movie will probably be about Yelena Belova and the Red Room. They could get Red Guardian involved in some form. I would like Alexander Lukin involved but he's more associated with Captain America. I know people just want Natasha and Nick Fury and Sharon Carter but I need some more meat. Toss Hawkeye or Bucky in there.
Give me something close to the pace and energy of the Bourne trilogy and i'm all in. :cool:
If it’s about her past, I really hope they give her a Russian accent and include Bucky.
[QUOTE=KurtW95;3374636]If it’s about her past, I really hope they give her a Russian accent and include Bucky.[/QUOTE]
A Russian spy with an obvious Russian accent? Isn't she supposed to be a good spy?
I am more of a lore guy, Russian/KGB/Leviathan stuff isn't stuff I am particularly interested in.(The reason I am way more interested in Captain Marvel is that I love Hala/Kree/Skrull lore.)
But I will totally watch a BW movie if it add interesting stuff to the whole MCU lore.
Also it may help more female characters getting their own movies if it does well critically and financially.