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As for old Hollywood it was studio systems where the moguls chose the scripts picked a director and a contracted actor for the film and gave the director some creative freedom while establishing guidelines and demanding they come in on time and on budget. That's sounds more like Feige than Fox which is the definition of corporate and has been since they threw Alan Ladd Jr. for allowing Lucas to keep his franchise rights.[/QUOTE]
Say what you want, but all X-Men movies are great and meaningful. Heck, even "X-Men Origins", despite some obvious screenplay problems and a less dramatic approach, is a fun movie with some impressive scenes, as well as capturing the "spirit" of the early Wolverine solo issues.
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[QUOTE=BatKeaton;4131093]Say what you want, but all X-Men movies are great and meaningful. Heck, even "X-Men Origins", despite some obvious screenplay problems and a less dramatic approach, is a fun movie with some impressive scenes, as well as capturing the "spirit" of the early Wolverine solo issues.[/QUOTE]
They're entertaining movies just like the MCU and DCEU that's it.
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[QUOTE=Scott Taylor;4131038]What in particular?[/QUOTE]
That like Storm he little more than a glorified extra. If you knew nothing about Cyclops all the films tells us is Alex WA his brother, he loved Jean, he was an X-Man, and had unnamed parents. Most of his stories were given to Logan from Jean because Jean and Logan were portrayed as the forbidden love story and even his father son relationship with Xavier. It annoys me to no end and I hope he gets better treatment in the MCU.
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[QUOTE=Jokerz79;4131110]They're entertaining movies just like the MCU and DCEU that's it.[/QUOTE]
Well, of course. But they also look and feel more "sci-fi" than the usual superhero movies.
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From Best to Worst:
X2
X-men Days of Future Past
Logan
Deadpool
X-men
X-men First Class
X-men Apocalypse
Deadpool 2
The Wolverine
X-men The Last Stand
X-men Origins Wolverine
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1 Logan
2 DOFP
3 Deapool
4 X-Men
5 Deadpool 2
6 First Class
7 X2
8 Last Stand
9 Apocalypse
10 The Wolverine
11 Wolverine: Origins
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[QUOTE=BatKeaton;4131883]Well, of course. But they also look and feel more "sci-fi" than the usual superhero movies.[/QUOTE]
The X-Men movies are more cinematic and with deeper and more controversial storylines.
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[QUOTE=Raiders;4137004]The X-Men movies are more cinematic and with deeper and more controversial storylines.[/QUOTE]
How is Racism is Bad controversial?
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1) X2
2) First Class
3) Days of Future Past
4) Logan
5) Deadpool
6) Deadpool 2
7) X-Men: Apocalypse
8) X-Men
9) The Wolverine
10) X-Men Origins: Wolverine
11) The Last Stand
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[QUOTE=Jokerz79;4137108]How is Racism is Bad controversial?[/QUOTE]
What??....
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X2
Dofp
AOA
Wolverine
Origins
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[QUOTE=Raiders;4137178]What??....[/QUOTE]
The basic theme of X-Men is Racism is bad and given those films have been made in the 21st Century that's not a controversial message/theme in the 21st Century.
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[QUOTE=Jokerz79;4137275]The basic theme of X-Men is Racism is bad and given those films have been made in the 21st Century that's not a controversial message/theme in the 21st Century.[/QUOTE]
How did you get that out of what I said?
Anyway, the X-Men movies are real movies with characters who just happen to have mutant abilities.
They are character driven movies, with real world storylines.
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[QUOTE=Jokerz79;4131110]They're entertaining movies just like the MCU and DCEU that's it.[/QUOTE]
Non cinematic movies had real depth and provided intellectual discourses to films than the superficial cinematic films(MCU and DCEU) flocking cinemas. When Marvel fans talked about how provocative X-men films were and later the TDK series could be, why do some MCU fans quickly try to tell us they are not? is this because you cant say the same about the MCU movies?
The fun spoofy entertainment spectacle era we have now is a MCU and DCEU thing. DCEU wanted to escape from it but seemed trapped to now be a copycat of the MCU. To put MCU in the same place as the top X-Men movies or to put the DCEU in the same place as The TDK Trilogy is beyond hilarious. I am not sure the teams behind those movies will agree to that, since they spoke about how different their movies were to the MCU.