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[QUOTE=Zelena;4434635]I know only one justifiable homicide, it is self-defense.[/QUOTE]
Xavier wasnt trying to kill him. Now granted...Xaviers mind is like a neutron bomb and shouldnt be taken for granted.
I felt that Scotts dislike for Xavier and his past actions was amplified by the PF.
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[QUOTE=maxi_miceli;4434595]I would be kinda surprised, but in a good way, that would be an interesting evolution for the character[/QUOTE]
Well, his portable Cerebro makes him look too much like the Maker to not be either misdirection or a hint.
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Otherwise, I remember Scott Summers looked happier when he was just the team leader of the X-men and with Jean too…[/QUOTE]
Pretty much anyone looks happier with a lot less duties and essentially everyone you care about (well, apart from his mom, I guess) alive and well. But of course, the last time he was in that configuration (just field leader + with Jean) he was outright miserable.
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Pretty sure Cyclops most miserable years were after AvX were he was hated by his friends, family and other superheros. Always on the run and on desperate missions.
His happier years were probably with Cable and Jean on advntures of cyclops and phoenix
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[QUOTE=phoenixzero23;4434664]Pretty sure Cyclops most miserable years were after AvX were he was hated by his friends, family and other superheros. Always on the run and on desperate missions.[/QUOTE]
You're probably right. And afterwards he find out the multiverse would end. And then he died a pointless, horrible death.
[QUOTE=phoenixzero23;4434664]P
His happier years were probably with Cable and Jean on advntures of cyclops and phoenix[/QUOTE]
I'd say the 05 years, specially after he reunited with Alex- hell probably his happiest years occurred off-panel.
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[QUOTE=phoenixzero23;4434664]Pretty sure Cyclops most miserable years were after AvX were he was hated by his friends, family and other superheros. Always on the run and on desperate missions.
His happier years were probably with Cable and Jean on advntures of cyclops and phoenix[/QUOTE]
Those years were his worst because he spent them with constant blue balls and he still had to spend them around his ex, who hates shirts.
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[QUOTE=jsg2295;4434654]Xavier wasnt trying to kill him. Now granted...Xaviers mind is like a neutron bomb and shouldnt be taken for granted.
I felt that Scotts dislike for Xavier and his past actions was amplified by the PF.[/QUOTE]
Xavier wasn't trying to kill him-- just hold him down so that everyone else could.
But, yeah, the writers had it so that the PF amplified thoughts and feelings and made them a reality. It was explicitly stated in Gillen's UXM tie-ins. Cyke murdering Xavier and turning DP was him losing control for the briefest of moments, which was all it took to create damage. Pretty much Cyke's worst fear coming true: him losing control and killing someone.
There were so many stories that could have been told post-AvX, but the writer Cyke got went straight for the ignore button so he could tell his stories with the OC5.
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[QUOTE=phoenixzero23;4434664]Pretty sure Cyclops most miserable years were after AvX were he was hated by his friends, family and other superheros. Always on the run and on desperate missions.
His happier years were probably with Cable and Jean on advntures of cyclops and phoenix[/QUOTE]
Post-AvX had Cyclops literally trying to bait Wolverine into killing him since he was completely wrecked inside, so yes, I don't think he went through worse than that.
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My interpretation is that Cyclops acted in self-defense and because of the Phoenix the reaction he had was exaggerated and he could not control how much he defended himself.
Xavier was trying to mindwipe him, even told him to reassure him that when this was over he would not remember anything, Scott sure that hearing that he had to remember Deadly Genesis.
It reminds me of the situation of Bruce Banner in Civil War II, where they lead an army just to ask him how he is doing. Anxiety levels skyrocket. Anyone would say that after so many years of dealing with powers that make people mentally unstable they should already know what NOT to do.
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[QUOTE=Glio;4434745]My interpretation is that Cyclops acted in self-defense and because of the Phoenix the reaction he had was exaggerated and he could not control how much he defended himself.
[B]Xavier was trying to mindwipe him, even told him to reassure him that when this was over he would not remember anything, Scott sure that hearing that he had to remember Deadly Genesis.[/B]
It reminds me of the situation of Bruce Banner in Civil War II, where they lead an army just to ask him how he is doing. Anxiety levels skyrocket. Anyone would say that after so many years of dealing with powers that make people mentally unstable they should already know what NOT to do.[/QUOTE]
Where is the proof?
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[QUOTE=Zelena;4434819]Where is the proof?[/QUOTE]
You're right, I just went to look at it and it's more ambiguous than I remembered, he just tells "you not to worry and that when you wake up..." * Cut sentence *
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Xavier's actual line "Hopefully, when you wake up, you won't have any..."
In light of what Xavier did to the rest of the O5 in Charles Soule's Astonishing X-Men, it would be ludicrous to even suggest Xavier wasn't going to do some serious editing of Scott's recent thoughts/feelings/memories.
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[QUOTE=FluffyCyclopsRLZ;4434921]Xavier's actual line "Hopefully, when you wake up, you won't have any..."
In light of what Xavier did to the rest of the O5 in Charles Soule's Astonishing X-Men, it would be ludicrous to even suggest Xavier wasn't going to do some serious editing of Scott's recent thoughts/feelings/memories.[/QUOTE]
Considering Xavier has been doing than canonically since the 1970s...
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[QUOTE=PsychoEFrost;4434933]Considering Xavier has been doing than canonically since the 1970s...[/QUOTE]
X-Office: "No, no, no. Cyclops totally overreacted. Charles Xavier wasn't going to... Wait, he did that? But that was way back... Oh, then too? Yeah, but that was... Oh, really? Dang it, why doesn't anyone tell us these things? We're just editors for crying out loud!"
In all seriousness, though, I do believe Cyclops killing Xavier was totally unnecessary. He rather should've broken the old man's limbs with a flaming wheelchair.
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[QUOTE=FluffyCyclopsRLZ;4435514]X-Office: "No, no, no. Cyclops totally overreacted. Charles Xavier wasn't going to... Wait, he did that? But that was way back... Oh, then too? Yeah, but that was... Oh, really? Dang it, why doesn't anyone tell us these things? We're just editors for crying out loud!"
In all seriousness, though, I do believe Cyclops killing Xavier was totally unnecessary. He rather should've broken the old man's limbs with a flaming wheelchair.[/QUOTE]
Not even his wheelchair. Scott should have conjured a wheelchair out of rearranging molecules in the air for the sole purpose of beating him with it.
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[QUOTE=PsychoEFrost;4435516]Not even his wheelchair. Scott should have conjured a wheelchair out of rearranging molecules in the air for the sole purpose of beating him with it.[/QUOTE]
Well, yeah, thus the "flaming wheelchair" bit. Of course the Phoenix would get in on that action and eliminate the competition.