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[QUOTE=Last Son of Krypton;4061036]It's ok for SM/WW having "other dynamics" too, it hurts when their dynamic is shifted to someone else and there's also the pretence that things were always this way. I'm looking at you, DCEU.😠[/QUOTE]
This is what I mean. Not only throwing away or acting like the SMWW dynamic doesn’t exist for others but trying to imitate their dynamic for another and thinking the other can be better. Obviously that doesn’t and didn’t work but it’s the principle of even trying to do so that hurts.
If you want the SMWW dynamic knowing it works...it works with SMWW only. So build them as they should and should’ve already been.
[QUOTE]Till now, it seems that every step forward was followed by two backwards. 😅 I don't think that SM/WW can keep going on like this for long.[/QUOTE]
This goes for not only their relationship but also them as individuals.
[I]“At least in my dream, we are brave.⚡️”[/I]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq0wCk1Ho1M/[/url]
[I]“Couple that I love😍”[/I]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/BqguP67hHcc/[/url]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bqil116B2MU/[/url]
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[QUOTE=LoveStar;4061433]This is what I mean. Not only throwing away or acting like the SMWW dynamic doesn’t exist for others but trying to imitate their dynamic for another and thinking the other can be better. Obviously that doesn’t and didn’t work but it’s the principle of even trying to do so that hurts.
If you want the SMWW dynamic knowing it works...it works with SMWW only. So build them as they should and should’ve already been.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. One more reason why the SM/WW dynamic needs a consecration on the big screen is that they can't twist their relationship or even pretend they were never close in the comics for god knows what dumb reason.
Btw, I'll send you a video of Geoff Johns going full revisionist to back up the DCEU "dynamics" as historic and comic accurate. 😒
[QUOTE]This goes for not only their relationship but also them as individuals. [/QUOTE]
More than going forward or backward, the problems with SM/WW as individuals are the constant reboots/relaunches that have fractured both franchises and the fanbase as a result.
[QUOTE][I]“At least in my dream, we are brave.⚡️”[/I]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq0wCk1Ho1M/[/url]
[I]“Couple that I love😍”[/I]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/BqguP67hHcc/[/url]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bqil116B2MU/[/url][/QUOTE]
Too much cuteness. 😄
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[QUOTE=Last Son of Krypton;4061777]Exactly. One more reason why the SM/WW dynamic needs a consecration on the big screen is that they can't twist their relationship or even pretend they were never close in the comics for god knows what dumb reason.
Btw, I'll send you a video of Geoff Johns going full revisionist to back up the DCEU "dynamics" as historic and comic accurate.
More than going forward or backward, the problems with SM/WW as individuals are the constant reboots/relaunches that have fractured both franchises and the fanbase as a result.[/QUOTE]
Considering Superman died the day they met I can't see them having much of a relationship on account of him pushing daisies. Now that he's back they have plenty of time too hang out and get to know one another IF DC and Warners so wishes it. The ball is totally in their court and no others.
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[QUOTE=Last Son of Krypton;4061777]Exactly. One more reason why the SM/WW dynamic needs a consecration on the big screen is that they can't twist their relationship or even pretend they were never close in the comics for god knows what dumb reason. [/QUOTE]
True and a lesson learned is that their relationship can’t be imitated nor twisted regardless. It’s a dynamic that only works for them. ;)
[QUOTE]More than going forward or backward, the problems with SM/WW as individuals are the constant reboots/relaunches that have fractured both franchises and the fanbase as a result.[/QUOTE]
Superman and Wonder Woman have a clear message of who they are, suppose to be. However that message is constantly ignored and “evolved”/taken in the worse backwards way. There’s no balance and when it comes to the necessary evolving of their character. The extreme regression and stagnation needs to stop.
[QUOTE]Too much cuteness. 😄[/QUOTE]
Right!! :o
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DCEU SM/WW dolls, Wonder Barbie and Ken(t): 😅
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/BqoeaL1gF-Q/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Last Son of Krypton;4062167]DCEU SM/WW dolls, Wonder Barbie and Ken(t):
[IMG]https://scontent-mxp1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/0d9311b5d36364aacb7cb69f0000a457/5C93D314/t51.2885-15/e35/46146267_336556087131719_7284443208950480896_n.jpg[/IMG]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/BqoeaL1gF-Q/[/url][/QUOTE]
Even more DCEU SMWW Barbie/figure love.... there seem to be multiple posts from different posters almost every other day. What does that say?
“Ken(t)” hehe
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[QUOTE=Lokimaru;4061824]Considering Superman died the day they met I can't see them having much of a relationship on account of him pushing daisies. [B]Now that he's back they have plenty of time too hang out and get to know one another[/B] IF DC and Warners so wishes it. The ball is totally in their court and no others.[/QUOTE]
With Cavill gone, the chance of it happening are the same of during the time Superman was dead. 😉
[QUOTE=LoveStar;4061975]True and a lesson learned is that their relationship can’t be imitated nor twisted regardless. It’s a dynamic that only works for them. ;)[/QUOTE]
They can still twist the characters to make it works for someone else. 🤔
[QUOTE]Superman and Wonder Woman have a clear message of who they are, suppose to be. However that message is constantly ignored and “evolved”/taken in the worse backwards way. There’s no balance and when it comes to the necessary evolving of their character. The extreme regression and stagnation needs to stop.[/QUOTE]
Well, I was thinking more about the way they change the whole package every time... think of how all the different Superman takes we got lately (post-IC Supes, NuSuperman, Superdad, Bendisman) have a different tone, themes, status quo, etc... that can be all considered alternate versions from each others. No wonder the fanbase become more fractured every time.
[QUOTE=LoveStar;4062283]Even more DCEU SMWW Barbie/figure love.... there seem to be multiple posts from different posters almost every other day. What does that say?[/QUOTE]
Wait that I'll post the weekly romantic DCEU SM/WW toys pics before asking "What does that say?" 😉
[QUOTE]“Ken(t)” hehe[/QUOTE]
🤭
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[QUOTE=Last Son of Krypton;4062770]
They can still twist the characters to make it works for someone else. 🤔[/QUOTE]
Then the characters won’t be who they truly are.
[QUOTE]Well, I was thinking more about the way they change the whole package every time... think of how all the different Superman takes we got lately (post-IC Supes, NuSuperman, Superdad, Bendisman) have a different tone, themes, status quo, etc... that can be all considered alternate versions from each others. No wonder the fanbase become more fractured every time.[/QUOTE]
Isn’t this what the multiverse is for? Elseworlds? Why can’t we have these different versions with their different paths?
[QUOTE]Wait that I'll post the weekly romantic DCEU SM/WW toys pics before asking "What does that say?" 😉[/QUOTE]
This is a new level of popular trends like the cakes, weddings/engagements etc? I’m loving it!
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[QUOTE=LoveStar;4062950]Isn’t this what the multiverse is for? Elseworlds? Why can’t we have these different versions with their different paths?[/QUOTE]
They still have to try to find a take that works in the main continuity, and shaking up things every now and then to keep readers interested. 😉 It's the way they're doing it that leave a lot to be desired. 😁
[QUOTE]This is a new level of popular trends like the cakes, weddings/engagements etc? I’m loving it![/QUOTE]
I guess so. I've no idea when it started (probably when the first figures came out), but we get these kind of romantic toys photography regularly.
Here some other pics:
[I]"I'll always be there for you..."[/I]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bqwt01Vn3cZ/[/url]
[I]"#wonderwoman #superman"[/I]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq-X6JIHIFG/[/url]
[I]"Wanna get a room..??"[/I]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq-lN0kHiI9/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Last Son of Krypton;4063051]They still have to try to find a take that works in the main continuity, and shaking up things every now and then to keep readers interested. 😉 It's the way they're doing it that leave a lot to be desired. 😁[/QUOTE]
Well that might take another long while unfortunately...
it shouldn’t be this way at all though.
[QUOTE]I guess so. I've no idea when it started (probably when the first figures came out), but we get these kind of romantic toys photography regularly.
Here some other pics:
[I]"I'll always be there for you..."[/I]
[IMG]https://scontent-mxp1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/34f7b4d81ab83140f05e5fef56e6e229/5CADD746/t51.2885-15/e35/46146709_2175909869135522_8860702573298205991_n.jpg[/IMG]
[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bqwt01Vn3cZ/[/url]
[I]"#wonderwoman #superman"[/I]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq-X6JIHIFG/[/url]
[I]"Wanna get a room..??"[/I]
[IMG]https://scontent-mxp1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/dbcd005863f587d00e7e3ae0b624fa28/5CAC2F73/t51.2885-15/e35/47307105_374649683286997_3324768800180831159_n.jpg[/IMG]
[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq-lN0kHiI9/[/url][/QUOTE]
I don’t think the conflicting feel of surprised, though not too surprised that they are automatically paired, no matter what is/was going on in DCEU will ever go away lol
Love the realistic details of the figures!
Showing more and more what could’ve been.
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[QUOTE=LoveStar;4063638]Well that might take another long while unfortunately...
it shouldn’t be this way at all though.[/QUOTE]
Well, having a less abrupt transition for each relaunch would be a start. 😉
[QUOTE]I don’t think the conflicting feel of surprised, though not too surprised that they are automatically paired, no matter what is/was going on in DCEU will ever go away lol
Love the realistic details of the figures!
Showing more and more what could’ve been.[/QUOTE]
Thinking about it, we wouldn't have DCEU related stuff to post here almost every day without the toy photography (and cosplays too), these pics sort of fill for the scarce material featuring SM/WW from the movies. 😉
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[QUOTE=Last Son of Krypton;4064019]Well, having a less abrupt transition for each relaunch would be a start. 😉[/QUOTE]
Oh most def! Natural transition. Let the stories flow as they may.
[QUOTE] Thinking about it, we wouldn't have DCEU related stuff to post here almost every day without the toy photography (and cosplays too), these pics sort of fill for the scarce material featuring SM/WW from the movies. 😉[/QUOTE]
Scarce material but yet toy photographers and cosplayers still gravitate to SMWW. One would expect what was shown in the movies would be more influential, right?
[I]“Themed sessions are better when you have someone that will dress up with you @hermanxo ❤️ #f45training #superman #wonderwoman”
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq7GRK8nvwv/[/url]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/BqSGX49Hk0i/[/url]
“I can't help myself. Halloween is not even my favorite holiday but, this picture of my family came out too good to not be posted. Sorry, not sorry. Let's just pretend that it's still time to post Halloween pictures.😁“
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq9-eb7gePF/[/url][/I]
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[QUOTE=LoveStar;4064180]Scarce material but yet toy photographers and cosplayers still gravitate to SMWW. One would expect what was shown in the movies would be more influential, right? [/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't feel there's anything in those movies that make them "shippable"... they don't even share eyes contact in BvS.
Probably those people didn't even pay attention to the movies. I forgot JL after I saw it for example. 😝
[QUOTE][I]“Themed sessions are better when you have someone that will dress up with you @hermanxo ❤️ #f45training #superman #wonderwoman”
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq7GRK8nvwv/[/url]
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/BqSGX49Hk0i/[/url]
“I can't help myself. Halloween is not even my favorite holiday but, this picture of my family came out too good to not be posted. Sorry, not sorry. Let's just pretend that it's still time to post Halloween pictures.😁“
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[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq9-eb7gePF/[/url][/I][/QUOTE]
Still Halloween posts? It's almost Christmas... time to move on, people. 😛
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And the SuperWonder merch steamrolls on. In Spain they have this in stores now as you can see it is on display. And an add campaign. Also there are individual IG accounts cropping up with pics of this shirt they bought. Will share later unless Last Son or LoveStar beats me to it. lol.
[url]https://www.instagram.com/lasalstyle/[/url]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/6f60432958b466b134bbbaa83878162b/tumblr_pjbsr76lRy1qjzyxso1_1280.jpg[/img]
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[QUOTE=hellacre;4064547]And the SuperWonder merch steamrolls on. In Spain they have this in stores now as you can see it is on display. And an add campaign. Also there are individual IG accounts cropping up with pics of this shirt they bought. [B]Will share later unless Last Son or LoveStar beats me to it. lol. [/B]
[url]https://www.instagram.com/lasalstyle/[/url]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/6f60432958b466b134bbbaa83878162b/tumblr_pjbsr76lRy1qjzyxso1_1280.jpg[/img]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/a80c87750a42e3b4d54f9e86a804ea7c/tumblr_pjbsr76lRy1qjzyxso2_1280.jpg[/img]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/7435f6ebdd2310e98fb49f7998ffad7a/tumblr_pjbsr76lRy1qjzyxso3_1280.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Don't worry, I'll stick to post toys in these days. 😉
Btw, is it a licensed t-shirt?