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X-Men Monday 9/16/19
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Beast and Wolverine look like they just did something in the woods.
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I wonder why Rogue is in the long gloves...i thought she had control over her power now.
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Rogue looks pregnant
Glad to see Dani and Roberto colored with darker skin
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[QUOTE=HeartofTheStoriesWeTell;4569487]I wonder why Rogue is in the long gloves...i thought she had control over her power now.[/QUOTE]
I think she's lost control. But hard to keep up. Last I remember was Mr. & Mrs. X where she had to wear the power drainer so she'd be able to touch Gambit on their wedding night.
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[QUOTE=Silver Fang;4569494]I think she's lost control. But hard to keep up. Last I remember was Mr. & Mrs. X where she had to wear the power drainer so she'd be able to touch Gambit on their wedding night.[/QUOTE]
Nope, she gained control of her powers. She doesn’t need to make any physical contact now to trigger her powers plus she is able to control when her powers are turned on and off.
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[QUOTE=Silver Fang;4569494]I think she's lost control. But hard to keep up. Last I remember was Mr. & Mrs. X where she had to wear the power drainer so she'd be able to touch Gambit on their wedding night.[/QUOTE]
I didnt read Mr and Mrs....but wow...
Okay now i have BDSM collars in my mind
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[QUOTE=HeartofTheStoriesWeTell;4569501]I didnt read Mr and Mrs....but wow...
Okay now i have BDSM collars in my mind[/QUOTE]
If you read MMX, you would also know that Rogue and Remy are actually into BDSM lmao
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Oh man. Marvel is so fucked up
I guess I have to be grateful for them breaking up my favorite couple and doing the relationship severe damage and then having to settle for less.
This reduced so much my enjoyment of the books and also prevented many others to enjoy these characters interactions.
They should do the same for other relationships, so sick and tired of being told other things are better just because Marvel doens't do them dirty.
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That's a sweet image of Rogue and Gambit. They've been largely absent from House of X/Powers of X. I hope they get a role at some point.
And I have a feeling that any discussion on Grant Morrison's run will generate a wave of angry discussions on topics that haven't been resolved since 2004. I'm going to need more popcorn. :o
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[QUOTE=LostZargatan;4569507]Oh man. Marvel is so fucked up
I guess I have to be grateful for them breaking up my favorite couple and doing the relationship severe damage and then having to settle for less.
This reduced so much my enjoyment of the books and also prevented many others to enjoy these characters interactions.
They should do the same for other relationships, so sick and tired of being told other things are better just because Marvel doens't do them dirty.[/QUOTE]
Marvel hates stable relationships for the most part. So almost all pairings either get destroyed in controversial ways or they just drop off the Earth and become filler.
Rogue x Gambit won't be happy forever. In a few years, one way or another, they'll get broken up again too. All it takes is one writers to derail a plot.
Personally I have only been invested in 3 pairings since 2016. All ships sank, but only 1 of them got a solid ending. The other fell off the Earth. The last was left on a cliffhanger, then fell off the Earth. lol
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It seems Emma is going to be finally using her powers
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Sunspot and Dani finally have the right skin tones. God bless you, whoever is doing the colors of NM.
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People really believe that Morrison invented the x-men as flawed characters LOL give a break
[QUOTE=Silver Fang;4569519]Marvel hates stable relationships for the most part. So almost all pairings either get destroyed in controversial ways or they just drop off the Earth and become filler.
Rogue x Gambit won't be happy forever. In a few years, one way or another, they'll get broken up again too. All it takes is one writers to derail a plot.
Personally I have only been invested in 3 pairings since 2016, and only 1 of them got any closure. The other two just became filler & aren't referenced anymore.[/QUOTE]
Seems like the last of the classic couples is Reed and Sue. and married for a long time joined by Luke and Jessica.
Marvel thinks breaking up couples get better sales and stories... none of these are true
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[I]Jordan: [B]I think the big lesson was that the X-Men can grow and change, still. This run took the core of the X-Men and spun it in a different direction than it had been before. It was (and I guess I am sorry about the pun here) an evolution of the idea. I[/B]t went into bigger ideas about evolution and culture and society, it changed the character’s relationships to one another as well as to their roles in the X-Men and what the X-Men meant. The fact that such big moves could happen while still feeling both fresh and like the X-Men was amazing. It’s what made me a regular monthly X-Men reader rather than someone who just read collections of older material. It felt like it was the X-Men of that moment, the X-Men of the current world rather than a callback to the X-Men that were in the past. So, in the end, the lesson to learn is about why they did what they did, the larger ideas behind what they did rather than the specific things they did.[/I]
[I]Jordan: Oh man, I love it. [B]Flawed characters are the best. Characters overcoming their own shortcoming, or at least struggling with them, is pretty much the thing that makes the best stories. [/B]It’s what makes Marvel Marvel—the classic idea of the heroes having feet of clay is what set them apart from a lot of the heroes that came before. Superman is, for the most part, a purely aspirational hero. He is perfect, he is good at everything, he has all the powers and can defeat anything. Spider-Man fails the people close to him, he struggles to do what’s right and usually gets punished for doing it. (Side note—that is not a knock on Superman. I love him as an aspirational hero. To my mind, people complaining about him being too powerful are missing the point of Superman. But that’s neither here nor there.)[/I]
[I]Jordan: Beast is another great example of a terrific flawed character.[B] I think a lot of the nuance of Beast that I love has roots in this era. The X-Men fans who hate Beast love to rage at him being a hypocrite, at this mistake and that mistake that he made. And you know what? They are right about a lot of it… and that’s why he is great and interesting. He is an incredibly smart guy who has good intentions and thinks a lot about what is and is not right… but thinking and doing are two different things and he really struggles with that. [/B]Sitting and thinking about ideals is a very different thing than reacting to real life in the moment, and sometimes you end up in a different place than you wanted to. I can really relate to that.[/I]
Good stuff.
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[QUOTE=rogueisbae;4569505]If you read MMX, you would also know that Rogue and Remy are actually into BDSM lmao[/QUOTE]
That is cool i hope it was done in a healthy way not just for shock...but lol i kinda should have seen it.
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This was really good stuff. People will probably complain about it being useless talking about the past, but I think it gives a good insight on how JDW views the X-Men and makes it more clear about what to expect. Hard to disagree with his opinions in general. It's also easy to see which parts of this interview will make people angry, but that's life
That smug charming Sunspot will be my avatar as soon as I get back from work. He's just gorgeous.
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4569488]Rogue looks pregnant
Glad to see Dani and Roberto colored with darker skin[/QUOTE]
She really looks pregnant, but JDW is so against heroes having kids. So probably is Marcus To style
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4569536]She really looks pregnant, but JDW is so against heroes having kids. So probably is Marcus To style[/QUOTE]
He against it, but doesn't mean it can't happen. He says when Hickman was pitching his ideas for the X-Men, he said his first thoughts to some ideas were "we can't do that", but notes how good Hickman's ideas are for his longer plan.
So there could be a baby involved. And that will certainly become a source of toxicity in their next break-up. Because lets face it, we know that'll be coming too. Just standard Marvel where all pairings are doomed. Outside of Luke x Jessica & Sue x Reed
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I feel like I'm going to puke.
All these drama has done nothing but hurt these characters. Cyclops specially.
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4569536]She really looks pregnant, but JDW is so against heroes having kids. So probably is Marcus To style[/QUOTE]
Marcus To’s Betsy is really skinny tho
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Also Rogue and Gambit don't need kids.
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[QUOTE=Silver Fang;4569538]He against it, but doesn't mean it can't happen. He says when Hickman was pitching his ideas for the X-Men, he said his first thoughts to some ideas were "we can't do that", but notes how good Hickman's ideas are for his longer plan.
So there could be a baby involved. And that will certainly become a source of toxicity in their next break-up. Because lets face it, we know that'll be coming too. Just standard Marvel where all pairings are doomed. Outside of Juke & Seed. lol[/QUOTE]
Well they found a way to get rid of Spidey and MJ daughter. Never doubt what they can do when they don't like something.
Seems like Marriage with kids doesn't get the axe, like Reed/sue and luke/jessica. But the way JDW likes messed up relationships, kids would add drama to the divorce.
I'm not surprised that jDW likes messed up relationship, what surprisedme is thathis fave character moment is Scott kissing Emma on jean's grave. That was pure garbage moment
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Gambit and Rogue pic is beautiful.
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4569547]Well they found a way to get rid of Spidey and MJ daughter. Never doubt what they can do when they don't like something.
Seems like Marriage with kids doesn't get the axe, like Reed/sue and luke/jessica. But the way JDW likes messed up relationships, kids would add drama to the divorce.
I'm not surprised that jDW likes messed up relationship, what surprisedme is thathis fave character moment is Scott kissing Emma on jean's grave. That was pure garbage moment[/QUOTE]
and he says he is a Jean/Scott fan. How could someone like their relationship and at the same time like all the crap Morrison threw to it?
Even many not fans found that crap distasteful
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4569547]Well they found a way to get rid of Spidey and MJ daughter. Never doubt what they can do when they don't like something.
Seems like Marriage with kids doesn't get the axe, like Reed/sue and luke/jessica. But the way JDW likes messed up relationships, kids would add drama to the divorce.
I'm not surprised that jDW likes messed up relationship, [B]what surprised me is that his fave character moment is Scott kissing Emma on jean's grave[/B]. That was pure garbage moment[/QUOTE]
It's in line with his pairing taste. I was familiar with him back on Deadpool, and his relationship with Shiklah that was the height of a toxic & tacky relationship. And he loved it. He stated the reason he loved it was due to how messed up it was.
When Shiklah is first showing cheating on Deadpool,someone questioned JDW about how she changed from her fun more loving self toward Wade, and JDW says she's still those things while cheating on her husband and the two characters she was in bed with were good friends & there's no issue with friends "hanging out."
Then when fans brought up the abuse in the relationship, he states Wade is not a good husband or person, and as such he has not earned anything better than her while stating that Shiklah as the one who rushed into things & picked the wrong man. Even though she was the adulterer & abuser in the relationship.
And far as their relationship when it's not toxic, there's them breaking into a couple's room and getting to second base on one bed while the couple is tied up on the other. There's having sex on her ancestor's graves for five hours. Then in Til Death Do Us, she starts a war to annex New York, marries Dracula, and attacks DP when he tries to stop her. Next time we see them they're both naked after having just had sex in the middle of the war she started.
So that shows you the types of romances he enjoys.The toxic ones that make characters look bad or pathetic. lol For a Deadpool fan coming off of that mess with Shiklah, his answers on pairings is not surprising.
Then again given one of the pairings I liked, that had drama written all over it, so you'd think he'd want that ship to sail a bit before the bombs shot it down. lol
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The only reason why I think Rogue’s pregnant is because 1) I’m bored 2) the “hints” (or at least what I personally perceived as hints) thats been dropped. Like the fact that Tini said we’ll “witness a birth” (I didnt think it literally at first but...), or her saying that the team will be taking on new roles, one of which is “Mother” (it could refer to Jubilee, but she’s been a mom for years now), or Marcus To saying that Rogue’s going through some change or sort + the solicits for issue #2 and also the fact that the last panel of MMX literally ended with them talking about having kids. We’ll see how it goes. I’m personally down with it. I mean, those grey twins in Extermination are definitely theirs.
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[QUOTE=rogueisbae;4569540]Marcus To’s Betsy is really skinny tho ��[/QUOTE]
Maybe he doesn't draw every woman with the same body?
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[QUOTE=spirit2011;4569565]Maybe he doesn't draw every woman with the same body?[/QUOTE]
Honestly, good on him if he does that. His art right now is phenomenal.
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you guys can just say you think she put on weight, ya don't have to make up more satanic x-spawn
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What makes this whole deal more ironic is that Scemma was treated pretty respectful.
If this was Marvel's treatment for all couples then they would have got a love triangle and a messy break up but no
This shit is only for Jean and Scott.
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Great article. Morrison time was a great era. Let's hope Hickman reaches those heights.
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[QUOTE=Tenebrae;4569590]Great article. Morrison time was a great era. Let's hope Hickman reaches those heights.[/QUOTE]
with or without the "infidelity"?
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[QUOTE=Triniking1234;4569593]with or without the "infidelity"?[/QUOTE]
I'll take either/or
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[QUOTE=HeartofTheStoriesWeTell;4569487]I wonder why Rogue is in the long gloves...i thought she had control over her power now.[/QUOTE]Just for fashion it seems. She's got her head touching Remy's, so she clearly doesn't need them to control her powers.
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The chemistry?
Super excited for New Mutants. This looks great.
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Damn, I forgot about that Emma/Scott kiss. Maybe that should be my avatar :p
Or I’ll stick with WonderBat.
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[QUOTE=Soulsword323;4569616]The chemistry?
Super excited for New Mutants. This looks great.[/QUOTE]
No. It's Sunspot x Magik.
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[QUOTE=Triniking1234;4569628]No. It's Sunspot x Magik.[/QUOTE]
Magik is for Kitty