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[QUOTE=Frontier;6419649]Well, DC can't even tell her what's in-continuity for PG so she's probably just making it up as she goes.[/QUOTE]
From an early Leah Williams interview...
[I][B]Leah Williams: "Okay, so what's the truth?"
DC editor: "What do you want it to be?"[/B][/I]
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[QUOTE=achilles;6419454][B]I don't approve of changing longstanding stuff about a character for no other reason than to change it. [/B] Which this, if it holds, seems to be. Though I like seeing her interact with the Superman Family. Perhaps one day they'll just give up and put her back in for real----this looks like it might start that. But of course Clark and Lois are the big ones she's got to have panel time with.[/QUOTE]
This. An unnecessary change that nobody asked for.
Didn't mind the new jacket, that's just cosmetic.
But she's been Karen Starr since the 70's, ...fifty years?...did not need to change it.
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What I find funny (and [i]not[/i] “haha” funny, mind you) is that the cbr article calls the name “heartwarming” and present the whole book/blank slate thing as clever. Frankly, I don’t think it’s either of those things at all.
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Her name is Karen Starr,and she likes to hit shit ,not poke in your brain,so I just see this as another writer trying to put their stamp on a character,when they should respect the characters long history and not try to change said character,but write a compelling and fun story about thst character
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Well, then I guess that is it then. RIP, Peege! I will always remember you fondly and celebrate your brassy and no-nonsense manner and wry wit.
I will keep an open mind about Paige and hope she fares better than the forgotten Tanya. I wish you well in the exploration and mastery of your new powers. I hope your new old Superman family is welcoming and as good a support as your friends from the League were.
Off to eBay for Peege back issues!
[QUOTE=astro@work;6419682]This. An unnecessary change that nobody asked for.
Didn't mind the new jacket, that's just cosmetic.
But she's been Karen Starr since the 70's, ...fifty years?...did not need to change it.[/QUOTE]
I am still recovering from the random shift to Karen when her friends and my own comics reading friends called her Kara like the Leaguers did or Peege. So I feel your pain
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I don't see Paige sticking. This seems more like trying to get PG away from the stigma associated with the name Karen (and Bob cuts I guess lol).
It won't stick.
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[QUOTE=The Frog Bros;6419727]What I find funny (and [i]not[/i] “haha” funny, mind you) is that the cbr article calls the name “heartwarming” and present the whole book/blank slate thing as clever. Frankly, I don’t think it’s either of those things at all.[/QUOTE]
No, it isn't those things. Unnecessary, harmful to the character, and just plain dumb---those are things it is. But...I think that since she managed to give PG exactly the power she needed to fight Sorrow that her mind powers at least might not persist, and I rather think that most other writers will simply ignore her new name and just call her Karen again.
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[QUOTE=Stanlos;6420075]Well, then I guess that is it then. RIP, Peege! I will always remember you fondly and celebrate your brassy and no-nonsense manner and wry wit.
I will keep an open mind about Paige and hope she fares better than the forgotten Tanya. I wish you well in the exploration and mastery of your new powers. I hope your new old Superman family is welcoming and as good a support as your friends from the League were.
Off to eBay for Peege back issues!
I am still recovering from the random shift to Karen when her friends and my own comics reading friends called her Kara like the Leaguers did or Peege. So I feel your pain[/QUOTE]
It makes sense that everyone was calling her Karen instead of Kara - after all, Supergirl now keeps her Kryptonian name in her human name, so we no longer have a second name to use for her to distinguish her from PG, unless you just call her Supergirl (which wouldn't necessarily mean Kara considering the 90s version). So people call Supergirl Kara and used Karen for Power Girl.
They really should've mentioned New 52 in the story, as that version of PG existing (and she does still exist, she's just back on Earth-2) would explain why the current one is changing her secret identity.
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[QUOTE=Digifiend;6420218]It makes sense that everyone was calling her Karen instead of Kara - after all, Supergirl now keeps her Kryptonian name in her human name, so we no longer have a second name to use for her to distinguish her from PG, unless you just call her Supergirl (which wouldn't necessarily mean Kara considering the 90s version). So people call Supergirl Kara and used Karen for Power Girl.
They really should've mentioned New 52 in the story, as that version of PG existing (and she does still exist, she's just back on Earth-2) would explain why the current one is changing her secret identity.[/QUOTE]
The only problem with doing what they're doing is that other DC characters had been, and naturally would have been, using the same name (Kara) for her. Since it does have two possible pronunciations, it's likely one was just called "Care-uh", with the other "Kar-uh". The problem there is that there's really no way of showing that on the printed page while there absolutely is in other media.
Paige? Ignoring the disturbing Daredevil-Karen Page comparison, it was just out of the blue, and really doesn't fit with Kara's personality.
I agree that she should just be Karen, with Kara referenced from time to time as her real name. They should IMO then explain once or twice that they're simply pronounced differently.
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Absolutely is indeed. Cat Grant often called Supergirl Kira instead of Kara on the TV show.
Of course PG wasn't the only superhero called Karen. It's also Bumblebee's real name.
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I want to like this run but if you change a character's personality, name, supporting cast, costume and powers, what really remains? A hair style? Why not just make a new character? :/
I'm going to check out the special before I make my final weigh in on this take but I'm really not loving it, sadly.
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[QUOTE=Robanker;6420613]I want to like this run but if you change a character's personality, name, supporting cast, costume and powers, what really remains? A hair style? Why not just make a new character? :/
I'm going to check out the special before I make my final weigh in on this take but I'm really not loving it, sadly.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Like I said in the other thread, Williams is making so many changes that it seems like she never wanted to write PG in the first place.