Rey's vision in TFA, specifically that Knights of Ren part

It didn't seem to be given any extra context in the two sequels; A man is struck down by Kylo and he's standing with the Knights of Ren in a rainy, rocky landscape with a few other bodies around. While some think this depicts Luke's academy and students being killed, the character doesn't seem to have a lightsaber but some sort of staff, and a helmet. The helmet kind of resembles the training helmets seen in AOTC, but also the deleted character (Who got an action figure in the first wave for some reason) Constable Zuvio. I guess it can be just a random scene of Kylo and the Knights doing their galaxy-conquering thing.

Then again the vision might not have meant to show a real event, as we also see Kylo Ren in the forest at Starkiller base (definetly because there's snow so it can't be their confrontation in the sunny green Takandona forest that happens shortly thereafter) at the end but he's wearing the full helmet, which he didn't in the movie.

Although unintentional probably, Ren in the visions reacting to Rey's presence does seem to slightly foreshadow their connections in TLJ and ROS.

I've come to think that Rey just witnessed some random Knights of Ren mission that has yet to be fleshed out.

[QUOTE=ChrisIII;4931350]It didn't seem to be given any extra context in the two sequels[/QUOTE]

Surprisingly enough that's what happens when nothing is properly planned.

The vision was about catching Rey and the audience up to speed and while the Knights are now not apart of the massacre, this would still provide us context to who the Knights are and that they're the goons of Kylo Ren specifically. Just a bit of background information that had some meaning changed with later material though it wasn't set in stone to begin with. Regardless of them being Luke's students, being present for the massacre, or just even being Kylo Ren's goons, they're place here is to show that they're are no Jedi left but Kylo Ren and his followers. Basically building on the Jedi having lost regardless to an upstart Sith who has his own groupies.

TLJ was going to have them in the throne room so the Knights would've taken the place of the Royal guard (now Praetorian) in addition to being Ren's inquisitors. However they got cut since it was felt they should have a moment with Ben if they're going to be killed off. Granted TROS didn't deliver ironically under their creator.

The vision felt pointless. What it did was make Rey feel more important than she needed to be.

Speaking of visions, i'm kinda wondering if the one Rey has in the last jedi actually makes sens in the context of rise of skyguy.

I mean, it gives me the impression, and maybe it's just me, that it was hinting in an another direction than the one the story follows in the last movie.

[QUOTE=Valentis;4934772]The vision felt pointless. What it did was make Rey feel more important than she needed to be.[/QUOTE]

It's another ball handed to Johnson's that he dropped because there wasn't "room to fit it in" to the longest and most boring Star Was movie. It feels pointless now with the whole trilogy completed but created some anticipation after TFA like many other things in that movie all to subvert our expectations.

[QUOTE=Valentis;4934772]The vision felt pointless. What it did was make Rey feel more important than she needed to be.[/QUOTE]

Well, most of the vision is info and clues about her past and future, which do come to pass. The Knights scene really seems most like it's meant to establish Kylo for her, nothing more, nothing less.

[QUOTE=Starter Set;4934820]Speaking of visions, i'm kinda wondering if the one Rey has in the last jedi actually makes sens in the context of rise of skyguy.

I mean, it gives me the impression, and maybe it's just me, that it was hinting in an another direction than the one the story follows in the last movie.[/QUOTE]

Well, it was probably meant to tie more into the idea that her family were nobodies who where irrelevant to the here and now then the "Palpatine's granddaughter" retcon (or "daughter of a Palpatine clone" if we must count the novelization), but, given how vague Force visions are, I don't see it as a big deal. I mean, the point is, she goes there for answers and doesn't get them.

[QUOTE=Valentis;4934772]The vision felt pointless. What it did was make Rey feel more important than she needed to be.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't call it pointless. We got a ton of mileage out of it with finding out who the Knights of Ren are and a bit of the background of Luke's academy going under as well as showing Rey attuning to the lightsaber, something that the recent EU brings up a fair bit with how the Jedi and Sith's weapons work. The only thing really dropped is that we never found out what context the scene with the knights. And even then the vision wasn't a literal take on those events.

Just throw something at the wall here. Would the vision feel out of place if the lightsaber had literally belonged to Ben at one point?