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And while DC covers its ass and pretends this is some amazing thing that we're just too dumb or stubborn to get, the sales keep falling. Who's losing out here?
Here's a little business theory: if you make a product your consumers don't buy.....it doesnt matter if it's good, or better than the original. You tailor your product to your customer.
So maybe DC could stop with this "brilliant" crap that no one but them is smart enough to get, and make a product the customers actually want? Dumb it down for us, huh DC?
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Us, we lose. Cause unfortunately Nightwing is still under the radar enough that these editors can get away with it. No one at DC cares enough about the character or the book for there to be any standards or accountability. So they can take one of their top selling Bat family members, one they were once confidant enough to double ship, and let him become their lowest selling Bat family member while they dig in their heels to cover their butt and still claim how they offer great stories that cater to tastes of Bat fans.
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[QUOTE=Godlike13;4374795]Us, we lose. Cause unfortunately Nightwing is still under the radar enough that these editors can get away with it. No one at DC cares enough about the character or the book for there to be any standards or accountability. So they can take one of their top selling Bat family members, one they were once confidant enough to double ship, and let him become their lowest selling Bat family member while they dig in their heels to cover their butt and still claim how they offer great stories that cater to tastes of Bat fans.[/QUOTE]
We have to stop worrying about the comics their out of our hand. Just focus on streaming when he debuts in Titans
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[QUOTE=Badou;4374733]Dick at most will just be drawn in the background audience at any wedding if it happens with other heroes. He isn't going to have any sort of active role. He has already given that to Clark.[/QUOTE]
This is what I'm expecting.
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[QUOTE=byrd156;4374949]This is what I'm expecting.[/QUOTE]
Batman was for his wedding
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[QUOTE=Rac7d*;4374872]We have to stop worrying about the comics their out of our hand. Just focus on streaming when he debuts in Titans[/QUOTE]
Enjoy Titans, but I don't care about it like I care about the comics. They're what "count."
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[QUOTE=Pohzee;4374978]Enjoy Titans, but I don't care about it like I care about the comics. They're what "count."[/QUOTE]
What about Young Justice: Outsiders?
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Those things are cool, but i still like the comics. So I’d be nice to like his. This last year has been so disheartening, and I’ve been reading comics for a while now. Even the Devin Grayson days, at least she genuinely gave a ****. This is what gets me about Dick’s current situation. It’s not just that his comic is bad, it’s the obvious lack of care and blatant laziness, and how no one there even cares enough to do anything about it and continues to just allow it. Instead they double down, and find one of their protected in house creators to not subtly tell us at the end of there boring crap how oh no its not that this story or writing (I mean plotting) is bad, it’s that people aren’t giving it a chance. It’s so disheartening not just as a Nightwing reader, but as a comic reader.
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[QUOTE=Godlike13;4375003]We like comics.[/QUOTE]
So, "Ric" over Dick taking down human traffickers, training the newest upcoming heroes/metahumans, and undercutting the world's villains?
Whatever floats your boat I guess.
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Young Justice is and may always be one of the greatest depictions of Dick. But part of the reason that I care about something as silly as superheroes is the idea that these characters are icons with neverending stories. The strength of characters like Batman and co is that they have 75 years of history behind them and conceivably as many years ahead or until the industry fails. So while Young Justice is great, it isn't a part of the tapestry that attracts me to the character in the first place.
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[QUOTE=Pohzee;4374978]Enjoy Titans, but I don't care about it like I care about the comics. They're what "count."[/QUOTE]
But in finding strength with other platforms and media the comics have no choice but to follow suit. So if the show is done well and nightwing is revived well he should be able to get back to status quo
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Of course I enjoy the show. I'm just not of the mindset "The comics are bad, so accept that it is bad and move on to TV."
I want better from the comics.
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[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4375017]So, "Ric" over Dick taking down human traffickers, training the newest upcoming heroes/metahumans, and undercutting the world's villains?
Whatever floats your boat I guess.[/QUOTE]
The medium, not his current poop of a comic specifically. The existence of comic TV shows and movies doesn’t stop my love for reading comic books. I enjoy Titans and YJs quite a bit, but I still want to be able to enjoy Dick’s comic. Cause at the end of the day I still enjoy reading comics, good ones at least.
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[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4375017]So, "Ric" over Dick taking down human traffickers, training the newest upcoming heroes/metahumans, and undercutting the world's villains?
Whatever floats your boat I guess.[/QUOTE]funny enough both yj.o and titans dick have a very different status quo than comics dick.
Yj.o dick goes globetrotting around the greater dcu on espionage missions for/with the JL.
Titans dick runs around the country interacting with characters from the greater dcu.
Dick in the comics is isolated from the greater dcu in Gotham-lite fighting mediocre no names. It's like the nightwing book is just there to be a side book for batman ot use for his story's when he needs a good jobber. Sad
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[QUOTE=Pohzee;4375037]Of course I enjoy the show. I'm just not of the mindset "The comics are bad, so accept that it is bad and move on to TV."
I want better from the comics.[/QUOTE]
I am not saying moove on, I am saying supporting those mediusm will help him in the comics