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A place to appreciate the under appreciated, but amazing Bill Everett!
I'm a huge a Namor fan, so that was my introduction to Everett. I'm not as familiar with his other work, so I'm hoping other Everett fans will share their knowledge. I'll edit this post with shared information.
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Blake Bell has written this great biography on Everett, and is collecting some of his other work in a few paperbacks. There's a CBR interview about this book here:
[url]http://www.comicbookresources.com/?id=28967&page=article[/url]
In the 70s he returned to writing and drawing Namor for about a year. I really enjoyed these issues, but the fan base was use to the Marvel style and did not appreciate it.
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[QUOTE=Zetsubou;25474]BIll Everett's left a great legacy for us to remember. Namor should be as popular as Superman and Batman were.[/QUOTE]
Agreed! I've often wondered WHY this is not so? Chief Jon, another Namor fan here on CBR, wrote an cool essay on the how Namor is Marvel's Superman. You can read it here:
[url]http://www.marvel616politics.com/2014/04/namor-the-sub-mariner-is-marvels-superman/[/url]
or here:
[url]http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?172-IMPERIUS-REX!-Namor-Appreciation&p=18908&viewfull=1#post18908[/url]
[url]http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?172-IMPERIUS-REX!-Namor-Appreciation&p=18915&viewfull=1#post18915[/url]
[QUOTE=Edhopper;26199]In the 70s he returned to writing and drawing Namor for about a year. I really enjoyed these issues, but the fan base was use to the Marvel style and did not appreciate it.
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Sadly, you'd have to count me among that fanbase at that time. When I was a kid, I didn't appreciate Bill Everett's stories or art, but fortunately, I have grown older and wiser. Though, to be fair, Torg??? OTOH, I did love his introduction of Namorita and that Venus and Ares issue you posted, even as a kid.
Also, IIRC, there were problems with the book coming out on time with Everett, back then, weren't there? I think he was already ill.
[QUOTE=Rheged;26686]Agreed! I've often wondered WHY this is not so? Chief Jon, another Namor fan here on CBR, wrote an cool essay on the how Namor is Marvel's Superman. You can read it here:
[url]http://www.marvel616politics.com/2014/04/namor-the-sub-mariner-is-marvels-superman/[/url]
or here:
[url]http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?172-IMPERIUS-REX!-Namor-Appreciation&p=18908&viewfull=1#post18908[/url]
[url]http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?172-IMPERIUS-REX!-Namor-Appreciation&p=18915&viewfull=1#post18915[/url]
Sadly, you'd have to count me among that fanbase at that time. When I was a kid, I didn't appreciate Bill Everett's stories or art, but fortunately, I have grown older and wiser. Though, to be fair, Torg??? OTOH, I did love his introduction of Namorita and that Venus and Ares issue you posted, even as a kid.
Also, IIRC, there were problems with the book coming out on time with Everett, back then, weren't there? I think he was already ill.[/QUOTE]
You might be right, but it still wasn't accepted well by the readers. As for Torg, any worse than some of the monsters periodically showing up in the Hulk or other books?
Besides, Torg was kinda cute, and he did show up again.
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Over the years I've come to appreciate the lushness of his work.
I think the reason Subby isn't held as highly is because he flip flopped back and forth.
[QUOTE=Edhopper;26869]You might be right, but it still wasn't accepted well by the readers. As for Torg, any worse than some of the monsters periodically showing up in the Hulk or other books?
Besides, Torg was kinda cute, and he did show up again.
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Ha! I didn't realize someone else had used Torg!
Well, I didn't care for the Hulk's book, either. Though I do like some of the old monsters, like Fin Fang Foom.
Thanks for posting that page. While I didn't appreciate the character, I do appreciate the art. Everett work is gorgeous! Though now that I think about it, Namor ran into the another Snow King ...
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[QUOTE=hondobrode;29222]Over the years I've come to appreciate the lushness of his work.
I think the reason Subby isn't held as highly is because he flip flopped back and forth.[/QUOTE]
Excellent point. Lush is a great way to describe Everett's work.
Perhaps, but Subby has flip flopped back and forth when he was hugely popular.
A Video Preview of Fire and Water
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A few Everett links:
[URL="http://blakebellnews.blogspot.com/2011/02/listen-to-wendy-everett-discuss-her-dad.html"]Listen to Wendy Everett Discuss Her Dad, Bill Everett[/URL] 2-16-11
[URL="http://blakebellnews.blogspot.com/search/label/Bill%20Everett"]"Fire and Water" Author's Site: Blake Bell News - Bill Everett tag[/URL]
Nostalgia. I used to own that Subby splash above. And a few other inside pages from that issue. I sold 'em all (and all my comic art) I think about 4 or 5 years ago. I lightly penciled in my 3 initials on the back of most of the original art I owned. Might have erased a few though. There is a small rectangle cut out (where the blue pencil line is)and put back in. Don't know why.
Conrad Eschanberg bought it. He must have sold it to "Wills comic art...etc"... purple ink stamp, upper left corner. That wasn't there before.
I could never decide what my favorite Everett art period was. It is either the Atlas 50s work (most like that best) or his last Subby work in Namor, early 1970s. I loved that too. He was still growing artistically. Used to own a 1969 bust drawing he did of Subby in his 1950s style. Everyone thought it was from the Atlas times but, it was late Silver Age. <Sigh>
I liked some of the HULK work. Not all of it. Some was very detailed. He was having a bad time of it then. Booze, I think. Used to own a few Doctor Strange pages he drew too. Everyone forgets he did those. Nice twice up Everetts' those.
[QUOTE=Custodes;274729]Nostalgia. I used to own that Subby splash above. And a few other inside pages from that issue. I sold 'em all (and all my comic art) I think about 4 or 5 years ago. I lightly penciled in my 3 initials on the back of most of the original art I owned. Might have erased a few though. There is a small rectangle cut out (where the blue pencil line is)and put back in. Don't know why.
Conrad Eschanberg bought it. He must have sold it to "Wills comic art...etc"... purple ink stamp, upper left corner. That wasn't there before.
I could never decide what my favorite Everett art period was. It is either the Atlas 50s work (most like that best) or his last Subby work in Namor, early 1970s. I loved that too. He was still growing artistically. Used to own a 1969 bust drawing he did of Subby in his 1950s style. Everyone thought it was from the Atlas times but, it was late Silver Age. <Sigh>
I liked some of the HULK work. Not all of it. Some was very detailed. He was having a bad time of it then. Booze, I think. Used to own a few Doctor Strange pages he drew too. Everyone forgets he did those. Nice twice up Everetts' those.[/QUOTE]
Oh my goodness. How cool that you actually owned some Everett art, and of Subby himself! I tried to pick up one of those convention sketches like this one, but it went beyond my budget fairly quickly. :(
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He drew Dr. Strange? How cool. I'll have to go looking for those comics. I didn't realize how much inking Everett had done for Marvel in the Silver Age, and into the Bronze age. Though, my favorite Everett inking story, had to be the one where he inked Ross Andru in Marvel Feature, the first Defenders story, and totally ticked Stan Lee off. LOL!
It took me seven years to find any Everett art for sale. Then I had some good luck. I bought the Doc Strange pages with 2 twice up Marie Severen pages of Doc Strange as well. The sketch was 1969 Subby as a kid in the 1950s style. The my favorites... 3 pages (including the splash) from the 70s book inked by himself. I was looking and looking for his Nita from that run but, to no avail. :-(
[QUOTE=Custodes;280908]It took me seven years to find any Everett art for sale. Then I had some good luck. I bought the Doc Strange pages with 2 twice up Marie Severen pages of Doc Strange as well. The sketch was 1969 Subby as a kid in the 1950s style. The my favorites... 3 pages (including the splash) from the 70s book inked by himself. I was looking and looking for his Nita from that run but, to no avail. :-([/QUOTE]
Holy cow. A treasure trove of Everett art! Oh, I didn't catch that your convention sketch was of Kid Namor. That's cool! I loved those stories in the MMW Atlas book.
I've found plenty of pages for sale, especially from Coolines, but it's all out of my budget. Need to start saving my pennies or else win the lottery. IIRC, he also has a couple pages with Nita.
[QUOTE=Rheged;280924]Holy cow. A treasure trove of Everett art! Oh, I didn't catch that your convention sketch was of Kid Namor. That's cool! I loved those stories in the MMW Atlas book.
I've found plenty of pages for sale, especially from Coolines, but it's all out of my budget. Need to start saving my pennies or else win the lottery. IIRC, he also has a couple pages with Nita.[/QUOTE]
Go for it. They may all disappear. You are exactly the kind of art lover who should own that Bill Everett art. You are the true appreciator.
PS: Notice my Namor related avatar?:cool:
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A place to [B]appreciate the under appreciated, but amazing Bill Everett![/B]
I'm a huge a Namor fan, so that was my introduction to Everett. I'm not as familiar with his other work, so I'm hoping other Everett fans will share their knowledge. I'll edit this post with shared information.[/QUOTE] Yes, I agree he was under appreciated, but amazing.
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Prince Namor creator Bill Everett
Daredevil co-creator Bill Everett
From "Fire & Water" (which I received recently):
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Anybody ever try the Everett Archives that got put out a few years ago? I've been interested in them for a while but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
[QUOTE=Jody Garland;1689398]Anybody ever try the Everett Archives that got put out a few years ago? I've been interested in them for a while but haven't pulled the trigger yet.[/QUOTE]
No, but I will. I can tell you how they are when they get here. :D
Also, while looking up info for each volume, I came across Fantagraphics site, and there you can view a video and slide show of each book which I found pretty helpful because I had just, kind of on a whim and chance, ordered some of the fantagraphics Ditko collections. After viewing the books on their site, I feel a LOT more confident in my purchase.
If you look here and scroll down some, you can see the video of the first volume of the Bill Everett Archives:
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[QUOTE=Jody Garland;1689398]Anybody ever try the Everett Archives that got put out a few years ago? I've been interested in them for a while but haven't pulled the trigger yet.[/QUOTE]
I received my books. LOVE them. Great quality, same size as a comic book, and what I like about Fantagraphic books (that is different from MMWs or DC Archives) is that it seems to be almost an exact reprint. Coloring is touched up some, but not the extent of a MMW or Archives book).
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I read that he inked the thor figure on the cover of the 1968 tales of asgard special.He was one of the best to ink Kirby.I beleave in that bio book, it is mentioned,by his daughter, that he became an acoholic at age 12. He still managed to have a long great career, through dying rather young.Subby ment an great deal to him.
[url]http://twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/articles/02everett.html[/url]
[url]http://peerlesspower.blogspot.nl/2014/05/mystery-danger-suspense-and-yes-killer.html[/url]
[url]http://diversionsofthegroovykind.blogspot.nl/2009/07/random-reads-sub-mariner-57-by-bill.html[/url]
[url]http://timely-atlas-comics.blogspot.com/2011/03/bill-everett-timely-romance-stories.html[/url]
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Definitely an undersung artist; but, alcoholism did affect his later work and his ability to get work. In that, he is much like Wally Wood, whose work suffered under a combination of alcoholism and poor health (which both influenced the alcohol and was a byproduct of it).
Namor's legacy has probably more to do with consistency of character. To put it in terms of pro wrestling, he had more face and heel turns than just about any character in comics. He is best as a "'tweener," an anti-hero. His devotion to his kingdom puts him at odds with others, including our world. That's not an easy sell, even when done well. It also hasn't helped that he often fell into less skilled hands than Everett.
The subby book, after it was announced inside issue 65, that he had died, itself died a mere 7 issues later. IF he had lived another 4-5 years, doing the book, I think it would have hit 100.As is, it's a miracle he didn't die back in March of 1969, when he went on a bender and split his head open from a fall.
Surprised that there's no mention of his work on the Hulk in Tales To Astonish in this thread!
[CENTER]Today is the [SIZE=5][COLOR="#0000FF"]100th[/COLOR][/SIZE] birthday of the late GREAT William Blake "Bill" Everett!
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[B][SIZE=1]Bill Everett (center) and two of his creations, [COLOR="#0000FF"]the Sub-Mariner[/COLOR] (from 1954’s The Human Torch #38) and [COLOR="#FF0000"]Daredevil[/COLOR] (from 1964’s Daredevil #1).[/SIZE][/B]
[B]When and What He Did at Timely/Atlas/Marvel:[/B] Writer and artist off and on from 1939 until 1973.
[B]Marvel-ous Accomplishments[/B]: He’s partially responsible for birthing the Marvel Universe with the creation of Namor, the Sub-Mariner, who appeared in 1939’s Marvel Comics #1, along with the Human Torch (an android that predated the Fantastic Four member of the same name by more than two decades). Namor and the Torch—created by writer-artist Carl Burgos—are considered Marvel’s first superheroes and still play significant roles in the publisher’s comics (a Sub-Mariner movie has been in various stages of development since the late 1990s). Over the years, Everett continued to work on different titles for Timely/Atlas/Marvel, even helping to create Daredevil in the 1960s and draw that character’s first issue.[/CENTER]
[QUOTE=Zetsubou;25474]BIll Everett's left a great legacy for us to remember. Namor should be as popular as Superman and Batman were.[/QUOTE]
Agreed 100%, especially since 2019 is not only Batman's 80th anniversary but also Prince Namor's, the very first Marvel!
[CENTER][B]Bill Everett[/B] tribute for Marvel's 75th and Daredevil's 50th anniversaries (2014) [COLOR="#0000FF"]by Stephen Sonneveld[/COLOR]
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[SIZE=3][COLOR="#000080"]Will marvel comics do a Bill Everett tribute for Marvel's 80th and Daredevil's 55th anniversaries (2019)?[/COLOR][/SIZE]
Cool page from Adventures into Weird Worlds #10 (September 1952, Marvel Comics):
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