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[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;5574971]Blame black media.
Coogler's promoted Judas and the Black Messiah. He's done interviews about producing Space Jam.
Where are the black media members to ask the important question. "WHY?"
Somebody like me is good with whatever he chooses even though I prefer T'Challa. My issue is trying to answer for Coogler. He should make it clear it was his decision cause he's still grieving. He should make it clear that its too soon to just replace his friend. Just speak on it. Dont speak around it. Be verbal enough to give your believers trust in what you're doing and not studio doing studio.[/QUOTE]
Co sign on all of this.
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[QUOTE=Username taken;5575011]I so wanted a Hickman BP book after New Avengers.
He’s someone that knows and clearly understands the BP mythos.
But count me in as not interested in the whole BP vs Namor without T’Challa garbage. I’m already on record saying that BP should be recast and that should be that. The whole BP2 without T’Challa is just wrong to me on so many levels and I still don’t know why Disney is rushing to make the movie considering the lead actor has died.[/QUOTE]
I agree that I was interested in seeing what Hickman could do when putting focus on one character versus a team book. Something tells me that we would gotten T'Challa empire done properly for starters. Yes, beyond recasting, why is there even a conversation? If Chadwick's death was that difficult then Coogler should have pushed for later production date, and if Feige wanted to do BP 2 sooner, then sit it out and let them recast T'Challa and make BP 2 with another director.
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What would you guys consider T’challa’s greatest failure in the comics? (His fathers death? Namor? Thanos?)
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[QUOTE=Pumbaa;5575110]What would you guys consider T’challa’s greatest failure in the comics? (His fathers death? Namor? Thanos?)[/QUOTE]
His editors.
To answer your question more seriously, Doomwar. True, he technically won, but it was a pyrrhic victory.
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[QUOTE=Pumbaa;5575110]What would you guys consider T’challa’s greatest failure in the comics? (His fathers death? Namor? Thanos?)[/QUOTE]
[B]*Looks back at the last 5 years* Uhhh...
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[QUOTE=Pumbaa;5575110]What would you guys consider T’challa’s greatest failure in the comics? (His fathers death? Namor? Thanos?)[/QUOTE]
Meeting Namor secretly to talk about the Cabal, leading to him getting ambushed by Doom, leading to him being in a coma while Morlun murked half his supporting cast, leading into Doom War which lead to no Syan and no vibranium, which resulted in.. a speech lol
Probably low key the absolute dumbest thing he ever did was allow murder bro Black Bolt to invite his crazy ass insane brother Maximus into Necropolis and then let the crazy dude sit there by himself around planet destroying bombs lol
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[QUOTE=Pumbaa;5575110]What would you guys consider T’challa’s greatest failure in the comics? (His fathers death? Namor? Thanos?)[/QUOTE]
Certainly not his father's death. He was a child so he shouldn't bear any blame for that. I think the most common answer here would be Namor. Personally, I'm cool with him not killing a Marvel superhero because that feels like a path you can't walk back from. You can't lead the Avengers after doing that, imo. Obviously, if he's possessed or mind-controlled when he takes an action, that's fixable, but not if he does it calculatedly.
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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;5575249]Certainly not his father's death. He was a child so he shouldn't bear any blame for that. I think the most common answer here would be Namor. Personally, I'm cool with him not killing a Marvel superhero because that feels like a path you can't walk back from. You can't lead the Avengers after doing that, imo. Obviously, if he's possessed or mind-controlled when he takes an action, that's fixable, but not if he does it calculatedly.[/QUOTE]
I think a better way to work Namor into the book would have been for the other illuminati members to insist that they need him for the last Infinity Gem.
So T'challa calls Reed, Stark, Cap, Black Bolt, Strange... they suggest using the Stones to stop the incursion. T'challa insists Namor cant be here... but they need him for the stone.
So, he relunctantly has to work with him. And once the cat is out of the bag and Namor knows about hte incursions, he can' tjust kick him out of the group with the stones explode.
IMHO, that works much better than "Tchalla invites his enemy"
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;5575294][img]https://i.imgur.com/i8DTvPn.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Totally forgot about this. I do wish they did something other than "T'Challa as Star Lord"
They could have done some real interesting stuff wih the "What If" series
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I might be overly optimistic but I’m hoping they give the big failures (Doomwar/Namor) to whoever will be running Wakanda in T’challa’s absence. The chaos following these events could set the ground work to make Wakanda fertile for an Achebe type to capitalize off the situation. Then T’challa can return in a future movie to set things right.
I could swallow it easier if Wakanda’s biggest L’s aren’t on T’challa’s shoulders. And maybe they only took the L’s cause T’challa wasn’t there.
The guy that set up the petition didn’t want an immediate recast, but rather down the road after a few years. Maybe everything will be building to the glorious return of the king and everyone can be happy . (Holding out hope)
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[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;5575317]Totally forgot about this. I do wish they did something other than "T'Challa as Star Lord"
They could have done some real interesting stuff wih the "What If" series[/QUOTE]
I’m just hoping it’s not Peter Quill in blackface. I don’t want T’challa dancing around to old school rock n roll, cracking jokes etc. I want the king of Wakanda in space.
Bonus points if there’s a secondary storyline of the wakandans searching for him.
I really don’t like the idea of stripping everything away from T’challa that makes him special and putting him on the guardians.
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[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;5575317]Totally forgot about this. I do wish they did something other than "T'Challa as Star Lord"
They could have done some real interesting stuff wih the "What If" series[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't see what makes this scenario exciting unless it is totally different from Peter.
And if it is really different than peter (aka stolen from earth and lived in space)... then what was the point lol? Why not just "black panther in space." Why connect it to star lord?
[QUOTE=Pumbaa;5575322]I might be overly optimistic but I’m hoping they give the big failures (Doomwar/Namor) to whoever will be running Wakanda in T’challa’s absence. The chaos following these events could set the ground work to make Wakanda fertile for an Achebe type to capitalize off the situation. Then T’challa can return in a future movie to set things right.
I could swallow it easier if Wakanda’s biggest L’s aren’t on T’challa’s shoulders. And maybe they only took the L’s cause T’challa wasn’t there.
The guy that set up the petition didn’t want an immediate recast, but rather down the road after a few years. Maybe everything will be building to the glorious return of the king and everyone can be happy �� . (Holding out hope)[/QUOTE]
about zero percent chance they saddle all the bad shit on Shuri only for superior black male T'challa to show up and fix everything.
Zero.
[QUOTE=Pumbaa;5575329]I’m just hoping it’s not Peter Quill in blackface. I don’t want T’challa dancing around to old school rock n roll, cracking jokes etc. I want the king of Wakanda in space.
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dudes gonna be boppin to Kid Cudi instead lol
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[QUOTE=Pumbaa;5575329]I’m just hoping it’s not Peter Quill in blackface. I don’t want T’challa dancing around to old school rock n roll, cracking jokes etc. I want the king of Wakanda in space.
Bonus points if there’s a secondary storyline of the wakandans searching for him.
I really don’t like the idea of stripping everything away from T’challa that makes him special and putting him on the guardians.[/QUOTE]
I doubt they'd make them exactly the same. Otherwise, what would be the point?
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[QUOTE=Mik;5575338]I doubt they'd make them exactly the same. Otherwise, what would be the point?[/QUOTE]
He’s black now!
Some people in Hollywood clearly think this is enough to make a stale character fresh. So who knows.