Wolverine #17 Preview.

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Bannister and Delores are both back, along with Maverick.

Though it is a nice read, this story could use more familair faces then just Marverick. Somehow Dolores ands Jeff start to become a bit mweh.
Though the writing and art is quite okay.

I think it is super funny how manly this book wants to be. It's like an outdated cliché of masculinity from the 1990s.

[QUOTE=Exodus;5775307]I think it is super funny how manly this book wants to be. It's like an outdated cliché of masculinity from the 1990s.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. I have been waiting for someone else to say that since they spoke about having "a duffel bag full of regrets" in about issue three or something.

[QUOTE=Exodus;5775307]I think it is super funny how manly this book wants to be. It's like an outdated cliché of masculinity from the 1990s.[/QUOTE]

I do not have a problem with books being manly. What's the problem with that? Wolverine has always been quite macho and manly, that's what the fans like.

[QUOTE=Exodus;5775307]I think it is super funny how manly this book wants to be. It's like an outdated cliché of masculinity from the 1990s.[/QUOTE]

90s were highest selling point for X-Men. Whats your point? People love what Wolverine does since XAS.

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Bannister and Delores are both back, along with Maverick.[/QUOTE]

Can you pls post the preview once. I can't see it properly because the those pics were so less magnified.

VERY nice cover. Love Maverick's mane.

[QUOTE=Master of Sound;5775349]I do not have a problem with books being manly. What's the problem with that? Wolverine has always been quite macho and manly, that's what the fans like.[/QUOTE]

Wolvierine has lived enough years to transcend this persona

[QUOTE=andreikes;5775476]Wolvierine has lived enough years to transcend this persona[/QUOTE]

Real Wolverine like him as the macho character he is. That character made him so popular.

[QUOTE=Exodus;5775307]I think it is super funny how manly this book wants to be. It's like an outdated cliché of masculinity from the 1990s.[/QUOTE]

Wolverine is probably not the book or character for you then. If I can offer some advice here that might be helpful. :)

It is not manly is more angsty than anything. Why does he act like he has a stick stuck in his ass all the time, He is living in paradise, has a lot of sex, his son and daughters are alive, Silver Fox, Marico, Kurt, Jean, Jubelee, Kate, Maverick are all alive, why is he so grumpy.

Ask Chris Claremont or Larry Hama who really defined his character. That’s just how he is. It’s not like this characterization just came out of nowhere. It’s pretty established. Logan is a mean, old, grumpy cuss of a man… er, mutant.

Now… if you’re saying “but why hasn’t he changed now that he’s living in paradise,” I think Percy has been pretty clear about that and explained it in both interviews and alluded to it in the book itself: He doesn’t trust it.

[QUOTE=Jackraow21;5775512]Ask Chris Claremont or Larry Hama who really defined his character. That’s just how he is. It’s not like this characterization just came out of nowhere. It’s pretty established.

Now… if you’re saying “but why hasn’t he changed now that he’s living in paradise,” I think Percy has been pretty clear about that and explained it in both interviews and alluded to it in the book itself: He doesn’t trust it.[/QUOTE]

He was less grumpy when he was a teacher in the X mansion a few years ago and mutants where on the path to extinction than now that theay are all back to life and living in paradise, that is note manly, that is a petulant manchild.

[QUOTE=Jackraow21;5775512]Ask Chris Claremont or Larry Hama who really defined his character. That’s just how he is. It’s not like this characterization just came out of nowhere. It’s pretty established. Logan is a mean, old, grumpy cuss of a man… er, mutant.

Now… if you’re saying “but why hasn’t he changed now that he’s living in paradise,” I think Percy has been pretty clear about that and explained it in both interviews and alluded to it in the book itself: He doesn’t trust it.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Logan is poster child for being a pessimist realist. I mean the man is over a hundred years old and he's lived long enough to know that happiness is fleeting. And as wonderful as Krakoa's gifts are Logan doesn't want to drop his guard when the sh*t hits the fan like it always does.

[QUOTE=Jackraow21;5775512]Ask Chris Claremont or Larry Hama who really defined his character. That’s just how he is. It’s not like this characterization just came out of nowhere. It’s pretty established. Logan is a mean, old, grumpy cuss of a man… er, mutant.

Now… if you’re saying “but why hasn’t he changed now that he’s living in paradise,” I think Percy has been pretty clear about that and explained it in both interviews and alluded to it in the book itself: He doesn’t trust it.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=loke13;5775519]Exactly. Logan is poster child for being a pessimist realist. I mean the man is over a hundred years old and he's lived long enough to know that happiness is fleeting. And as wonderful as Krakoa's gifts are Logan doesn't want to drop his guard when the sh*t hits the fan like it always does.[/QUOTE]

When shit did hit the fan, Wolverine showed how incompetent he is, between the Orchis fiasco and he still following orders from Beast he can`t still say without being hypocritical that he is the best at what he does, unless what he does is being a grumpy incompetent petulant old man.

[QUOTE=Milici;5775523]When shit did hit the fan, Wolverine showed how incompetent he is, between the Orchis fiasco and he still following orders from Beast he can`t still say without being hypocritical that he is the best at what he does, unless what he does is being a grumpy incompetent petulant old man.[/QUOTE]

Lol the dude literally saved the day when it came to mothermold. Nimrod is a work in progress

What is with this increasing trend of people dropping into a thread just to bad mouth the topic, which is clearly intended for those who enjoy it? Have people no impulse control?

People are entitled to their own opinions. What I don’t understand is if it’s so bad why bother with it.

[QUOTE=Master of Sound;5775303]Though it is a nice read, this story could use more familair faces then just Marverick. Somehow Dolores ands Jeff start to become a bit mweh.
Though the writing and art is quite okay.[/QUOTE]

I’m motion to bring Back Cyber

[QUOTE=Wolverine12;5775526]Lol the dude literally saved the day when it came to mothermold. Nimrod is a work in progress[/QUOTE]

Welp it's seems like time flees faster than lighting for some people to forget this.

[QUOTE=Wolverine12;5775526]Lol the dude literally saved the day when it came to mothermold. Nimrod is a work in progress[/QUOTE]

Exactly. That was a badass scene by the way. Still gives me chills.

[QUOTE=IN-a-Synch;5775536]I’m motion to bring Back Cyber[/QUOTE]

Yes! But, honestly, I wouldn’t mind a new Cyber created by Orchis. The old Silas Burr version was a bit goofy with forced connection to Logan, and he’s died and been resurrected like three times already. I say let him lie and make a new one.

Plus I’d like to see other cyborgs like The Reavers, Lady Deathstrike and this new Cyber working for Orchis and hunting mutants. Make this new version someone who has an axe to grind with Wolverine. Some ex-Hydra commando who got sliced up by him and was built into this indestructible adamantium-skinned nightmare. Not a mutant, but with embedded Sentinel tech that allows him to track mutants (the way Cyber’s power did) plus poison and hallucinogenic dipped claws on each hand, like the OG version. In other words, Orchis just recreates him specifically to destroy Wolverine. :cool:

[QUOTE=Fokken;5775529]What is with this increasing trend of people dropping into a thread just to bad mouth the topic, which is clearly intended for those who enjoy it? Have people no impulse control?[/QUOTE]

I get the knee-jerk reaction when someone has just purchased and read an issue, but the hooping and hollering over 2-3 preview pages will never make sense to me.

I'm liking this. I enjoy the way Percy writes this book like an old noir movie with investigations, spies, a lone wolf calling a few people he trusts to help in the cases... Those are old tropes, and even though I'm not a macho kind of guy, I enjoy how they are used here. I liked the issues Maverick appeared. Bannister is a character that catched my interest very quickly and Delores is a character I love to hate haha. Supporting human characters make the story more grounded like back in the day.

Medina is not that great of a penciler, but the colors are doing a great job to improve it in these pages.

Percy has a good handle on Logan’s personality and voice. IMO he’s nailed that, and the solo book has been good because of it. His team book needs a bit more work — again IMO — but overall I’m very happy with how he writes Logan in both Wolverine and X-Force. Very reminiscent to me of the Larry Hama years, which were really Logan’s heyday (I’d argue even more so than the Claremont years… but I’m sure I’ll get some vehement disagreement on that).

This looks good. Percy wolverine has been a great run so far. He does well with solo characters. The art is no kunert but it looks good here as well.

[QUOTE=Jackraow21;5775579]Percy has a good handle on Logan’s personality and voice. IMO he’s nailed that, and the solo book has been good because of it. His team book needs a bit more work — again IMO — but overall I’m very happy with how he writes Logan in both Wolverine and X-Force. Very reminiscent to me of the Larry Hama years, which were really Logan’s heyday (I’d argue even more so than the Claremont years… but I’m sure I’ll get some vehement disagreement on that).[/QUOTE]

Jackraow21, can you direct me to the source of your avatar? Is it a cover image? The colors are BEAUTIFUL.

[QUOTE=Fokken;5775629]Jackraow21, can you direct me to the source of your avatar? Is it a cover image? The colors are BEAUTIFUL.[/QUOTE]

S.W.O.R.D. #10 cover…

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