Donna needs a code name.so here are some suggestions.
Warzon.
Amazing Amazon.
Olympia.
War woman.
Ms miracle
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Donna needs a code name.so here are some suggestions.
Warzon.
Amazing Amazon.
Olympia.
War woman.
Ms miracle
why not troia?
[QUOTE=Aphrodite's Champion;2219070]why not troia?[/QUOTE]
I alway thought that was a cheap code name. Imagine if the would have named Niightwing "Graysono" or Arsenal "Harpero". It just sound silly to me. I'd prefer she was called Olympia or Wonder Warrior.
[QUOTE=warzon;2219063]Donna needs a code name.so here are some suggestions.
Warzon.
Amazing Amazon.
Olympia.
War woman.
Ms miracle[/QUOTE]
War anything is a horrible, horrible choice. Not at all right for the character, and definitely not for the peace-loving Amazons being restored currently in the pages of Wonder Woman.
Amazing Amazon is WW's moniker, so I would strike that. I think you're right to look into names starting with the letter A, given the shapes on her new belt and shield. I wonder if they're going to revive an idea a former TT writer batted around publicly (don't know if they ever used it): Avatar. That would be consistent with both her awesomeness and the mirror twin origin, assuming that gets revived.
Ms. Miracle sounds a tad too much like a sidekick for Mr. Miracle (maybe for a Shyla Norman or somesuch). I would have saved it in case someone wanted to retcon the Peter David Supergirl minus the S-shield.
I'm guessing the Rebirth Year 1 story will have to play out a bit before we learn more about the new Donna Troy origin. I hope it works out that the post-Infinite Crisis version comes back -- a mirror twin but with young Donna being raised on Paradise Island.
[QUOTE=Dr. Poison;2219142]I alway thought that was a cheap code name. Imagine if the would have named Niightwing "Graysono" or Arsenal "Harpero". It just sound silly to me. I'd prefer she was called Olympia or Wonder Warrior.[/QUOTE]
Why not Captain Wonder.
Darkstar. It fits with Nightwing, Arsenal, Tempest, Starfire, etc.
It largely depends upon her origin, but I like "Amazon". Short and succinct.
But, from a "branding" point of view, it probably isn't great for DC since it's a common name / descriptor. Maybe Amazonia, although that might be too much of a mouthful. I kind of like it though. And I'd like her code name to be tied to Wonder Woman in some way.
Maybe Aegea after the Amazon Queen who fought at Troy? It would have a connection to both Donna's last name and her Amazon training.
Darkstar isn't too bad, although it's a little foreboding and ominous for her character (although, that really depends upon how she's written).
I'd probably go with Amazonia.
Prefer it being independent since she hasn't been Wonder Girl for several decades now.
So, top picks:
-Olympia (which was her Earth-3 counterpart in the Crisis of Two Worlds cartoon)
-Troy (nice and simple)
-Darkstar (very 90'ties, but still cool... doesn't really match anymore though)
[QUOTE=Outside_85;2219887]Prefer it being independent since she hasn't been Wonder Girl for several decades now.
So, top picks:
-Olympia (which was her Earth-3 counterpart in the Crisis of Two Worlds cartoon)
-Troy (nice and simple)
-Darkstar (very 90'ties, but still cool... doesn't really match anymore though)[/QUOTE]
Actually Olympia was Diana's counterpart. Superwoman was Mary Marvel's counterpart.
[QUOTE=Agent Z;2219907]Actually Olympia was Diana's counterpart. Superwoman was Mary Marvel's counterpart.[/QUOTE]
I would disagree with that since she never used the lightning powers her Marvel Family underlings used (she even orders them to call the thunder at one point), Superwoman had Diana's power-set, but not the skills... plus I would point to how much younger Olympia looked when compared to Diana.
[QUOTE=Outside_85;2219966]I would disagree with that since she never used the lightning powers her Marvel Family underlings used (she even orders them to call the thunder at one point), Superwoman had Diana's power-set, but not the skills... plus I would point to how much younger Olympia looked when compared to Diana.[/QUOTE]
Superwoman is Diana's counterpart according to the creators. Her color scheme is similar to the evil Marvel family and like you said she clearly does not have Diana's fighting skills. Her not using the lightning, I can't explain. But then again, Superwoman's character was just as odd in the comics where she's an evil superpowered Lois Lane.
[QUOTE=Agent Z;2220008]Superwoman is Diana's counterpart according to the creators. Her color scheme is similar to the evil Marvel family and like you said she clearly does not have Diana's fighting skills. Her not using the lightning, I can't explain. But then again, Superwoman's character was just as odd in the comics where she's an evil superpowered Lois Lane.[/QUOTE]
in most versions Superwoman that I'm aware of she is Diana, but 'Lois Lane' is her civilian identity... which often leads to the assumption Superwoman killed and replaced the real Lois Lane. Also, quite often Superwoman is said to hail from Damnation Island and have occasionally killed all of the other Amazons and everyone who knows about it.
I wouldn't put so much into how her attire bears some resemblance to the three Marvels, since her's is still distinct from theirs (it's only really that they were dark thats connecting them) and how none of the 'made men' wore colors or symbols that defined which member of the Syndicate they ultimately belonged to. Like if I am not getting it wrong, they actually specify that the drug warehouse/production where they fight Olympia was actually one of Power Ring's.
But that said, a definitive version would be nice to see one day... hopefully not handled by Johns. (actually wouldn't that be a good WW story: Diana and her Amazons vs 'Lois' and her 'Amazons'?)
[QUOTE=Outside_85;2220048]in most versions Superwoman that I'm aware of she is Diana, but 'Lois Lane' is her civilian identity... which often leads to the assumption Superwoman killed and replaced the real Lois Lane. Also, quite often Superwoman is said to hail from Damnation Island and have occasionally killed all of the other Amazons and everyone who knows about it.
I wouldn't put so much into how her attire bears some resemblance to the three Marvels, since her's is still distinct from theirs (it's only really that they were dark thats connecting them) and how none of the 'made men' wore colors or symbols that defined which member of the Syndicate they ultimately belonged to. Like if I am not getting it wrong, they actually specify that the drug warehouse/production where they fight Olympia was actually one of Power Ring's.
But that said, a definitive version would be nice to see one day... hopefully not handled by Johns. (actually wouldn't that be a good WW story: Diana and her Amazons vs 'Lois' and her 'Amazons'?)[/QUOTE]
Hopefully Lois didn't kill her Amazons in your possible version.
Though I do wonder what the anti matter versions of Donna and Cassie would be like.
[QUOTE=Agent Z;2220068]Hopefully Lois didn't kill her Amazons in your possible version.
Though I do wonder what the anti matter versions of Donna and Cassie would be like.[/QUOTE]
Very much like as if Lobdell and Finch wrote the real ones... oh wait... :(
[QUOTE=Outside_85;2220088]Very much like as if Lobdell and Finch wrote the real ones... oh wait... :([/QUOTE]
Actually... I can see that. Yeah just scrap Donna and Cassie's original appearances in the New 52 and give those origins to their anti matter counterparts.
[QUOTE=Agent Z;2220096]Actually... I can see that. Yeah just scrap Donna and Cassie's original appearances in the New 52 and give those origins to their anti matter counterparts.[/QUOTE]
Actually I dont think i would have minded that explanation all that much... and over in Marvel, under Robinson, this was actually the plot surrounding Warrior Woman, who turned out to be the Squadron Sinister (bad) version hiding among Squadron Supreme (good) versions of her colleagues... untill she turned on them, and is now being stalked by her good counterpart.
I dont know if it's just me, but why do I keep thinking of the E-3 versions of the Wonder Family of characters as stuff of parents nightmares? Like 'we' (me) have this image that every parent would be proud to have girls like Diana, Donna and Cassandra... but that their E-3 versions would be these horrid brats in Harley Quinn's movie wardrobe?
[QUOTE=Outside_85;2220123]Actually I dont think i would have minded that explanation all that much... and over in Marvel, under Robinson, this was actually the plot surrounding Warrior Woman, who turned out to be the Squadron Sinister (bad) version hiding among Squadron Supreme (good) versions of her colleagues... untill she turned on them, and is now being stalked by her good counterpart.
I dont know if it's just me, but why do I keep thinking of the E-3 versions of the Wonder Family of characters as stuff of parents nightmares? Like 'we' (me) have this image that every parent would be proud to have girls like Diana, Donna and Cassandra... but that their E-3 versions would be these horrid brats in Harley Quinn's movie wardrobe?[/QUOTE]
Well the E3 versions are basically the main heroes of the DCU if they were mustache twirlingly evil. That's the Morrison version anyway. I kind of like the original Crime Syndicate who, while still evil, were at least friends. Somewhat.
Actually, why haven't we gotten any anti matter Titans?
[QUOTE=Agent Z;2220133]Well the E3 versions are basically the main heroes of the DCU if they were mustache twirlingly evil. That's the Morrison version anyway. I kind of like the original Crime Syndicate who, while still evil, were at least friends. Somewhat.
Actually, why haven't we gotten any anti matter Titans?[/QUOTE]
Preferred Morrison's due to how they weren't just 'mustache twirlingly evil', they were opposites of the heroes... like Superman we know as gentle superpowered champion for justice and freedom while Ultraman was an irrational buffoon that just overpowered everything that got in his way (save Owlman ofc). Also their world was the opposite of the real Earth, so however nasty they seemed, they were actually being their form of nice.
Not sure, but I guess it has to do with the usual CSA set-up of them being the only superpowered beings thats left and everyone else is dead because they'd be a challenge, if not now then eventually. (which I think was the major change the cartoon made). Question is if it was Morrison's version we are going by is what kind of state Donna and Cassandra would be in if they were associated with Superwoman... who had thing for repeated public humiliation (at least with Jimmy Olsen).
Olympia
Fate
Sprite
Nereid (Greek for "Nymph of the Mediterranean")
Aura (divine personification of the breeze), or Aurai ("Nymph of the Breeze")
Miss Take.
[QUOTE=Aphrodite's Champion;2219070]why not troia?[/QUOTE]
Yes I agree with troia.but alot if people didn't like that code name.me personally loved it.and to me that's what I still call her.but I feel that she needs one cause.as a super hero.how would it sound to say."look here comes bruce wyne or kal-el" kinda corny right.
[QUOTE=Vaffrey;2219262]War anything is a horrible, horrible choice. Not at all right for the character, and definitely not for the peace-loving Amazons being restored currently in the pages of Wonder Woman.
Amazing Amazon is WW's moniker, so I would strike that. I think you're right to look into names starting with the letter A, given the shapes on her new belt and shield. I wonder if they're going to revive an idea a former TT writer batted around publicly (don't know if they ever used it): Avatar. That would be consistent with both her awesomeness and the mirror twin origin, assuming that gets revived.
Ms. Miracle sounds a tad too much like a sidekick for Mr. Miracle (maybe for a Shyla Norman or somesuch). I would have saved it in case someone wanted to retcon the Peter David Supergirl minus the S-shield.
I'm guessing the Rebirth Year 1 story will have to play out a bit before we learn more about the new Donna Troy origin. I hope it works out that the post-Infinite Crisis version comes back -- a mirror twin but with young Donna being raised on Paradise Island.[/QUOTE]
With all due respect.if the Amazon's were so peace and loving they would be Pacifist not warriors trained from.birth.
[QUOTE=warzon;2221812]With all due respect.if the Amazon's were so peace and loving they would be Pacifist not warriors trained from.birth.[/QUOTE]
well they use to be. now a days they are more martial but they still tend to side with peace over war
Compiling and pondering options...pulling in from some wonder counterparts where appropriate
WONDER GIRL
WONDER CHICK
PRINCESS WONDER
SISTER WONDER
TROIA- unfortunately translates to "whore" in Italian slang
TROY
DARKSTAR - I agree has the 90s kewlness factor that many of the secondary names that her generation of heroes has taken on (Arsenal, Nightwing, Tempest) and fits into the Wonder milieu because of the "star" part
FURY
HARBINGER - from that New52 moment where she was positioned as a Monitor-counterpart
FATE
HUNTRESS - when I read the proposal of Donna bring a Huntress, a number of things clicked - fits with Diana and creates the cross-pollination of the legacies of the generation of former side-kicks ala Dick taking the name Nightwing from Superman's franchise. Doesn't work on as many levels in the condensed timeline.
AMAZON
AMAZONIA
AMAZE
VICTORY
OLYMPIA - guilt by association with the Ian Churchill design for Donna that used that name.
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AVATAR
GLORY
PANDORA
REGINE
I'm putting [B]GLORY[/B] and [B]FURY[/B] at the top of my list of preference given their prior association with the Wonder franchise - with Fury being Diana's daughter in other continuities and Glory being the Wonder counterpart from another company - she had a great run by Alan Moore where put some shine on the Liefeld creation.
[url]http://comicvine.gamespot.com/glory/4050-19886/[/url]
Donna Troy is an iconic name and only "codename" she should ever need is Troia. It means Troy in Italian, Greek etc. It's ICONIC.
Considering the Byrne origin, could they name her [B]Soul Sister [/B]without making her black?
[QUOTE=Thirteen;2222348]Compiling and pondering options...pulling in from some wonder counterparts where appropriate
WONDER GIRL
WONDER CHICK
PRINCESS WONDER
SISTER WONDER
TROIA- unfortunately translates to "whore" in Italian slang
TROY
DARKSTAR - I agree has the 90s kewlness factor that many of the secondary names that her generation of heroes has taken on (Arsenal, Nightwing, Tempest) and fits into the Wonder milieu because of the "star" part
FURY
HARBINGER - from that New52 moment where she was positioned as a Monitor-counterpart
FATE
HUNTRESS - when I read the proposal of Donna bring a Huntress, a number of things clicked - fits with Diana and creates the cross-pollination of the legacies of the generation of former side-kicks ala Dick taking the name Nightwing from Superman's franchise. Doesn't work on as many levels in the condensed timeline.
AMAZON
AMAZONIA
AMAZE
VICTORY
OLYMPIA - guilt by association with the Ian Churchill design for Donna that used that name.
[URL=http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Luciusbucket/media/churchill_donna.jpg.html][IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e244/Luciusbucket/churchill_donna.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
AVATAR
GLORY
PANDORA
REGINE
I'm putting [B]GLORY[/B] and [B]FURY[/B] at the top of my list of preference given their prior association with the Wonder franchise - with Fury being Diana's daughter in other continuities and Glory being the Wonder counterpart from another company - she had a great run by Alan Moore where put some shine on the Liefeld creation.
[url]http://comicvine.gamespot.com/glory/4050-19886/[/url][/QUOTE]
That costume is just as awful as her first troia costume.
Donna as Fate connection:
Atropos - eldest of the three Moirai (also known as The Fates). Atropos chose the mechanism of death and ended the life of each mortal by cutting their thread.
Donna/Titans of Myth connection:
Asteria - goddess of nocturnal oracles and falling stars; daughter of the Titans Coeus and Phoebe.
Eos - Titaness and the goddess of the dawn.
Donna/star (costume) connection:
Astraea - goddess of innocence and purity; known as the “Star Maiden” or "Star Goddess, daughter of Astraeus and Eos.
Other:
Alala - personification of the war cry in Greek mythology.
Nyx - goddess of the night.
BATTLESTAR - to underscore the emphasis on Warrior Culture
At this point I'm all for Donna reclaiming the Wonder Girl moniker.
I don't know what Cassie is all about these days. She should probably be called Olympia IMHO.
[IMG]http://www.nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DonnaTroy.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Agent Z;2219907]Actually Olympia was Diana's counterpart. Superwoman was Mary Marvel's counterpart.[/QUOTE]
Look at the movie, again, and you'll see...
Superwoman was, indeed, Diana's counterpart. She strong-armed and took over the Marvel Family, a crime family, ..becoming its boss, as the other Syndicators presided over crime families of their own making. She was not costumed, like the Marvels; they wore her standard. She didn't need to adopt their magic thunder, having conquered them with powers of her own. That's how powerful this Diana was.
Olympia, younger than Superwoman ..and being Donna Troy's counterpart, was not in Diana's Marvel crime family.
Look at the interviews and literature, released with CRISIS, and you will see that all of this is true.
What's wrong with Troia? It's awesome!
Fury.
It's not in use and it's connected to Wonder Woman mytho. Plus, if Donna is somehow connected to the Furies of Myth...writer can add a new dimension to Donna's powers
Darkstar or Troia..... Fury is straight up Lyta Trevor to me (yes I go back that far) and doesn't really go with Donna's personality...
[QUOTE=wonder39;2243695]Darkstar or Troia..... Fury is straight up Lyta Trevor to me (yes I go back that far) and doesn't really go with Donna's personality...[/QUOTE]
I agree that it doesn't really go with the personality of any Donna we've known, before. Still, if the [I]'Fury'[/I] mantle is to be carried on, Donna is more than worthy.
Hoping they restore Donna's original origin, but change the burning building into a burning [B]ocean liner[/B] or some other kind of sea-going vessel - maybe, an 18th century sailing ship, named [I]'The Troy'.[/I] An infant Donna Troythen, herself, only a child, is [I]'rescued from a burning ship, by Wonder Woman...'[/I], leaving her with no family, but, the Amazons!
Simple origin story, with no long, layered elements would be refreshing.
The Wonder Girl name is referenced in the Titans #2 preview but says most of the Titans are now known by other names. Hopefully we'll find out before long. But as it says most, perhaps she still bears her original name. [ATTACH=CONFIG]39316[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=tardisoperator;2256093]The Wonder Girl name is referenced in the Titans #2 preview but says most of the Titans are now known by other names. Hopefully we'll find out before long. But as it says most, perhaps she still bears her original name. [ATTACH=CONFIG]39316[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
[B][SIZE=4]SPOILERS[/SIZE][/B]
In Titans #2, all of the other Titans are referenced by their current code-names(i.e. Nightwing, Arsenal, Tempest) but Donna is known as simply Donna Troy. While it beats Troia, Darkstar, or Fate, I'm disappointed that Donna doesn't have an actual code-name like her teammates.
I think she will go by Troy. I know Gail Simone and James Robinson tried to get that to be her codename pre-Flashpoint.
If not "Troia" (because history), then I'd propose something brand new for Donna Troy, something that sounds as connected to "Wonder Woman" as "Nightwing" does to "Batman" .... seeing as "Night" and "Wing" are words that are associated with "Batman" and "bats" in general.
"Darkstar" is close, as I like "star", but is Donna really supposed to be "dark"?
What about ... "Star Maiden"?
"Wonder Woman" and "Star Maiden"
[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bf/DonnaTroy.jpg/250px-DonnaTroy.jpg[/IMG]
Yeah, Donna kinda looks like she'd go by "Star Maiden" in that costume.